ND legislature and Sioux name

[Prairiehaas]

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A significant proportion of legislatures are politicians. Posture can be seen as wisdom.

[filbert]

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It appears the ND Legislature will be voting on a three year moratorium on picking a new name: http://www.kfgo.com/fm-headline-news.php?ID=0000005911

Next up, the ND solons will consider a bill requiring corn production on non-irrigated land in North Dakota to yield at least 270 bushels per acre. And, the best legislation of all: a new bill requiring all ND children to be good looking.

Teh Stoopid is Strong in the ND Legislature . . .

[JackJD]

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It appears the ND Legislature will be voting on a three year moratorium on picking a new name: http://www.kfgo.com/fm-headline-news.php?ID=0000005911

Next up, the ND solons will consider a bill requiring corn production on non-irrigated land in North Dakota to yield at least 270 bushels per acre. And, the best legislation of all: a new bill requiring all ND children to be good looking.

[JackJD]

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I just hope the Summit League doesn't take them in!

[BTownJack]

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I don't even read this stuff and haven't for quite a while. From an outsider's perspective, this is completely embarrassing for UND. They need to get their act together. I hope the Big Sky kicks them out.

I hope the NCAA kicks them out. The NCAA is a member organization and doesn't need to deal with this. Also, they still are going through D-I transition - what's to stop the NCAA from keeping them out of the D-I ranks by not approving their D-I status?

[SDSUAlum08]

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I don't even read this stuff and haven't for quite a while. From an outsider's perspective, this is completely embarrassing for UND. They need to get their act together. I hope the Big Sky kicks them out.

[JackJD]

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Today (Tuesday, 11/08/11) the ND legislature is addressing the UND name issue. Here's the latest from the Grand Forks newspaper.
http://www.grandforksherald.com/even...cle/id/220664/

Some legislators are considering a moratorium or cooling-off period before UND can take on a new name. I think that's just plain wrong for a legislature to get involved in what now becomes (assuming the law forcing retention of the name is repealed), at its heart, a marketing issue. In any event, I think the legislature, perhaps with good intention, unwitingly continues to inflict damage or at least lay the foundation for damage for UND.

[Nidaros]

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Oh, for pity's sake . . . let me get this straight . . . it violates the tribe's "Native American civil rights, equal protection rights and religious rights" for the University of North Dakota to NOT use the nickname "Sioux" to refer to their intercollegiate athletic teams.

Wait, what?

Just when you thought this farce couldn't get more absurd . . .

The term "barratry" comes to mind . . .

We learn new words daily. Filbert just shared one. Here is the Wikipedia link:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barratry

It goes to show that this site is more than for SDSU fans.

[filbert]

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The Spirit Lake tribe is starting a new lawsuit -- they want the name retained.

Story from the 11/1/11 Grand Forks Herald: http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/219981/

Oh, for pity's sake . . . let me get this straight . . . it violates the tribe's "Native American civil rights, equal protection rights and religious rights" for the University of North Dakota to NOT use the nickname "Sioux" to refer to their intercollegiate athletic teams.

Wait, what?

Just when you thought this farce couldn't get more absurd . . .

The term "barratry" comes to mind . . .

[JackJD]

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The Spirit Lake tribe is starting a new lawsuit -- they want the name retained.

Story from the 11/1/11 Grand Forks Herald: http://www.grandforksherald.com/event/article/id/219981/

[Nidaros]

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I like this part.

“To assume the University of North Dakota and the State Board of Higher Education may ignore a law ... sets a bad precedent and demonstrates a lack of regard for the legislative process and the policymaking branch of government.”

Aren't they just following example from Washington D.C.?

As some bright young person would say: YUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Prairiehaas]

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I like this part.

“To assume the University of North Dakota and the State Board of Higher Education may ignore a law ... sets a bad precedent and demonstrates a lack of regard for the legislative process and the policymaking branch of government.”

Aren't they just following example from Washington D.C.?

[JackJD]

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I thought the carwreck was over, but, no! The car has once again lurched from one ditch and is crossing the road to the other ditch: Al Carlson, the State Senator who championed the legislation to keep the name, wrote a letter on Thursday to the State Board of Higher Ed and UND, telling them they should not be disregarding the law. Here's the story LINK.

Carlson's basic point (essentially: until the legislation is repealed, it's still the law so how can SBOHE and UND ignore it?) is probably correct. But, sheesh, what a mess.

I think Al Carlson is driving that car and the steering wheel has come off in his hands and no one knows where this wreck will end up.

[zooropa]

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A friend from UND sent me this link today. Spirit Lake tribal members were apparently not allowed to visit with the NCAA.

http://plainsdaily.com/entry/the-nex...it-lake-sioux/

The weirdest part of that deal is that the chief contacted the NCAA and asked to be included.

I'm thinking that the NCAA would have had no objection to the tribal chief being part of the ND delegation.

So I'm wondering why this guy didn't ask Carlson et al. to be included, or if he did and was rebuffed.

At any rate, it's over and done with.

My modest proposal is that UND auction off their nickname on a periodic basis. Let it by the UND "Rydell Ford Dealerships" for a couple years, etc.

[Nidaros]

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A friend from UND sent me this link today. Spirit Lake tribal members were apparently not allowed to visit with the NCAA.

http://plainsdaily.com/entry/the-nex...it-lake-sioux/

I really do not think it would have mattered whether Spirit Lake had been invited or not. Their presence at the meeting would have changed nothing in the agreement that was reached in they court system. This agreement called for approval from the two reservations that were of Lakota orgins. UND failed to meet the requirements of this agreement and therefore the logo must now go. This has nothing to do with discrimination and for the Plains Daily imply it does only makes the sting of defeat linger on in those minds who feel the logo is sacred to UND. Its not and the skinny white haired guy Earl Stringen has sung. Its time to move on.