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  • #31
    Re: Possible funding changes

    Originally posted by 89rabbit View Post
    working full time, with dependants
    which is why I think it's a shame they have to pay self-support (pretty sure General Beadle's administrators lobbied for that, lest their campus dry up and blow away.)

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    • #32
      Re: Possible funding changes

      Originally posted by TheBisonator View Post
      About the art topic, I was kind of wondering, I recently recieved a BFA from NDSU in Visual Arts. But I think SDSU's art program is larger and I know has more faculty than NDSU (about 60 art majors and 10 faculty at NDSU compared to I think at least 15 faculty at SDSU, and perhaps double the number of majors). So why isn't SDSU allowed to offer a BFA degree?? I mean, SDSU is most likely a much larger art program, though I think the only thing that NDSU's art program has over SDSU's is facilities, and that's only thanks to Doug Burgum.

      I don't understand why SDSU doesn't have a BFA. I know that NDSU, UND, Wyoming and Montana all offer BFA degrees in visual arts. Does USD offer a BFA?? If SDSU's art department is the largest in a large region, it should provide the opportunities to students that reflect its size. I mean, the state's art museum is located on SDSU's campus, so SDSU should have the flagship art program in SD, yes??
      SDSU's art department is four times the size of NDSU's (240 majors, 180 graphic design).

      This situation at SDSU illustrates the degree to which the BoR exercises what may be called excessive control over the universities, in the same way that the budget scandals at NDSU & UND (as well as the UND nickname issue) illustrate that the ND SBoHE has too little oversight (perhaps) over those institutions.

      If you want to know why SDSU offers neither a BFA nor an MFA, the answer can be found right here:

      http://www.usd.edu/fine-arts/art/index.cfm

      USD is mighty proud of saying they're the only school with an MFA, the only school with NASAD accreditation, and the only school with a professional BFA.

      Acknowledging the superiority of the theatre and art programs at SDSU goes down very very very very very very very very hard for USD. Kind of like when NDSU's growth outpaced UND's. It's a point on which they are quite sensitive.

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      • #33
        Re: Possible funding changes

        Originally posted by zooropa View Post
        q.e.d.
        y.a.l.a.n.o.l.y.
        Originally posted by JackFan96
        Well, I don't get to sit in Mom's basement and watch sports all day

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        • #34
          Re: Possible funding changes

          Originally posted by 89rabbit View Post
          They do pay fees and they pay self support tuition rather than state support tuition. There are a some “traditional aged” students at University Center but the avg. student at University Center is 27 years old, female, working full time, with dependants.

          If this student didn’t access public higher education at one of the attendance centers they would not access public higher education at all.


          Go State!
          I think UC students only pay a self support tuition...they don't pay the standard fees that main campus students do like the general activity fee or the university support fee.

          Is there a BOR document that profiles the "average" student at UC? I'd be interested in seeing those stats.
          "I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee." - Joe D.

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          • #35
            Re: Possible funding changes

            Originally posted by jackrabbit1979 View Post
            Is there a BOR document that profiles the "average" student at UC? I'd be interested in seeing those stats.
            I saw one years ago when T.TAD was presenting trying to get the ok for the new campus...

            I could not find one the other day when I tried.
            Might it be in the annual report to the legislature?

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            • #36
              Re: Possible funding changes

              http://www.sdbor.edu/board/items/doc...LLBOR0610J.pdf

              University Center starts on page 19. Lots of information in there.

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