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filbert
09-24-2005, 08:41 PM
I must admit, USD's 59-14 thrashing of UNO brings a bit of a smile to this Jackrabbit.

Go Yotes!

bigjake
09-24-2005, 08:50 PM
I never thought I would see the day that I would see a better back from SD than JOsh Ranek. But having seen Stefan Logan now for 2 years I have no doubt that he is even better than Ranek was. Has the same drive but even quicker and more elusive. Unbelievable. We couldn't tackle him all day.
We may have gotten killed but one could have gotten a BA then an MA and then gone on to graduate from law school at USD and still never seen usd beat the Mavericks in fb. I doubt there are any schools you ever did that to in fb or any sport for that matter.

filbert
09-24-2005, 08:58 PM
I never thought I would see the day that I would see a better back from SD than JOsh Ranek. But having seen Stefan Logan now for 2 years I have no doubt that he is even better than Ranek was. Has the same drive but even quicker and more elusive. Unbelievable. We couldn't tackle him all day.
We may have gotten killed but one could have gotten a BA then an MA and then gone on to graduate from law school at USD and still never seen usd beat the Mavericks in fb. I doubt there are any schools you ever did that to in fb or any sport for that matter.

And my smile just gets a bit wider . . . Thanks, Yotes!

Jacks02
09-24-2005, 10:41 PM
Yotes must have had the 2nd string in for the second half, didn't they have 42 at halftime?

Mavericks#1
09-25-2005, 01:42 AM
Myself and Big Jake have never ran and hid after a big loss for UNO. No question we got our arse kicked. We have taken 9 out of the last 10 in the series so that is what we are hanging our hat on this morning. I would make the arguement that your D1 school is not the best football team in the state. I know that you will say that you would kill them. But after watching them in person, you would have to play a great game to beat them. Your defense might slow them down, but they would not stop them and your quarterback had shown me nothing that would lead me to believe that you would run up and down the field on them. My money would lay on USD. Before you start throwing to many stones in our direction it appears that you are going to have your typical .500 season. Make that 42 years without a title. And why does your university feel the need to come up with a name for every game. Cereal bowl, Beef Bowl , Hobo Day, Hillbilly day and we haven't won a championship since 1963 day. Say bye-bye to your Dakota Marker. You will not win at NDSU.


Mavs#1

JBNJBQ
09-25-2005, 06:07 AM
Mavs#dII thinks that if usdII can beat uno so handlily that they must have a really great team. There is another possible answer:



http://www.blackjackinc.com/ProductImages/ihb/stickers/ihb_sticker_sucksad_b.jpg



Oh well, he can always dream! Have a fun year getting the snot knocked out of you by DII teams! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


JBNJBQ

OK_Jackrabbit
09-25-2005, 06:41 AM
I would make the arguement that your D1 school is not the best football team in the state.
USD has a very good team. I was impressed with the speed of Logan and the quarterback. UNO looked like a combination of the skill players from Lacrosse (not bad) and the line and defense from Valpo (very bad) to me. But it's probably just one of those games where one team took it to another. I don't think there's a huge difference in talent there.

As for the comparison with SDSU, that's just your ignorance showing. You should hold your tongue until you see one of these top D1AA teams play. They're incredibly fast and skilled. Cal Poly had amazing athletes, including a 6'6" wide receiver who was just a monster. And that Gocong or whatever on defense will soon be playing on Sundays. SDSU has upgraded its speed enough to hang with these teams, but we're short a few playmakers to get over the hump.

I won't take anything away from USD. They're good. But the game is played at a different speed in D1AA. I am encouraged that SDSU can stay with these teams with 21 fewer scholarships (before you say anything: think about how having 1/3 fewer scholarships than an opponent might impact UNO's chances in DII). You need to see the speed and depth of these teams in person to really understand the difference between DII and D1AA. It's a different game.

SDSUFAN
09-25-2005, 06:56 AM
Right on Ok Rabbit, I could not disagree with anything you said. I think too, USD is reaping the benefit of a knee jerking reaction to SDSU going D1, plus John Austin may have been a much better recruiter than he was as coach. Mierkort, who I understand got his ME from SDSU seems to have the coaching talent to mold the recruits from Austin era into a good team.

Whether USD can continue this sucessful streak remainds to be seen. I am not speaking of this season but future seasons, when SDSU has the fully funded 63 scholarships. This past week at the Jackrabbit Club and I mentioned it before, Coach Stig plans to take the staff for a visit to U of Montana and will sit down with their staff to find out how they manage their 63 scholarships and how they split them amongst the 85 players allowed. They want to specifically find out how UM recruits the best in Montana. Hopefully some of this insight knowledge will later be applied to South Dakota Kids. ;)

I have never been a parent, but have talked enough to Jack Parents and other parents. A 100 to 200 bucks more of scholarship money makes a big difference in making a choice. ;D

BTW good game USD, I am smiling too, too bad the KELO cameras did not focus more on Pat Behrn during the big plays. Berhns a DSU grad is very arrogant, but a good coach. ;D. 10 YEARS OF Frustation? No just plain Arse kicking that is deserved.

filbert
09-25-2005, 08:08 AM
Myself and Big Jake have never ran and hid after a big loss for UNO. No question we got our arse kicked. We have taken 9 out of the last 10 in the series so that is what we are hanging our hat on this morning. I would make the arguement that your D1 school is not the best football team in the state. I know that you will say that you would kill them. But after watching them in person, you would have to play a great game to beat them. Your defense might slow them down, but they would not stop them and your quarterback had shown me nothing that would lead me to believe that you would run up and down the field on them. My money would lay on USD. Before you start throwing to many stones in our direction it appears that you are going to have your typical .500 season. Make that 42 years without a title. And why does your university feel the need to come up with a name for every game. Cereal bowl, Beef Bowl , Hobo Day, Hillbilly day and we haven't won a championship since 1963 day. Say bye-bye to your Dakota Marker. You will not win at NDSU.


Mavs#1

You are making the mistake of thinking that I care whether or not USD would beat SDSU. I really don't.

I do take intense pleasure in the Yotes handing the Mavericks their heads on a silver platter. You, Mavs, are one half of the reason why.

Every tiresome, bleating post by you and Bigjake here simply increases my happiness.

Please continue.

Rabbit_FB_Alum
09-25-2005, 09:46 AM
Myself and Big Jake have never ran and hid after a big loss for UNO. No question we got our arse kicked. We have taken 9 out of the last 10 in the series so that is what we are hanging our hat on this morning. I would make the arguement that your D1 school is not the best football team in the state. I know that you will say that you would kill them. But after watching them in person, you would have to play a great game to beat them. Your defense might slow them down, but they would not stop them and your quarterback had shown me nothing that would lead me to believe that you would run up and down the field on them. My money would lay on USD. Before you start throwing to many stones in our direction it appears that you are going to have your typical .500 season. Make that 42 years without a title. And why does your university feel the need to come up with a name for every game. Cereal bowl, Beef Bowl , Hobo Day, Hillbilly day and we haven't won a championship since 1963 day. Say bye-bye to your Dakota Marker. You will not win at NDSU.


Mavs#1


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:'(

BDSUPERJACK
09-26-2005, 02:51 PM
Go Jacks. And for the first time, nice job USD.

bigjake
09-26-2005, 07:49 PM
Filbert, I always thought that uno meant absolutely nothing to you fans. I would think you would be pulling for the mavs versus your long time nemesis usd. But it's a free country.

Rabbit_FB_Alum
09-26-2005, 08:01 PM
Filbert, I always thought that uno meant absolutely nothing to you fans. I would think you would be pulling for the mavs versus your long time nemesis usd. But it's a free country.



Well, to me uno is nothing more than a card game for little children. Nothing more. ;D

Mavericks#1
09-26-2005, 08:05 PM
You are making the mistake of thinking that I care whether or not USD would beat SDSU. I really don't.

I do take intense pleasure in the Yotes handing the Mavericks their heads on a silver platter. You, Mavs, are one half of the reason why.

Every tiresome, bleating post by you and Bigjake here simply increases my happiness.

Please continue.



No problem Filbert, We will gladly continue. Nothing I hate worse than a disgruntled rabbitt. ::)

Mavericks#1
09-26-2005, 08:21 PM
I am encouraged that SDSU can stay with these teams with 21 fewer scholarships (before you say anything: think about how having 1/3 fewer scholarships than an opponent might impact UNO's chances in DII).



OK Jackrabbitt,

I post this message to you because you seem to have the most common sense. You guys are using the scholarship thing now as an excuse which is fine. But what bothers me most about rabbitt fans is that they continue to make excuses for their teams when they are medicore. Isn't anyone upset that your football team has been medicore for 40 years and hasn't won championship or gone deep in the playoffs with your fan support and resources. Bill Callahan has been here less than two years and people are already getting restless especially with the West Coast Offense. I have never seen fans that look at things through rose colored glasses like you guys do. I can appreciate loyal fans but you guys wear me out with the sky is always blue theme. Maybe that is why your football team is without a title for over 40 years because no one is pushing the envelope.


Mavs#1

89rabbit
09-26-2005, 08:53 PM
Mavs,

If you want to see black clouds no need to come to our board. I'll bet everyone on the D2football.com board is having a laugh at your programs expense. 59-14 that is one heck of a beat down. Weren't you guys like the #5 team in the nation, what a laugh. Two words - over rated. Here is the site you are looking for so enjoy your D-II misery.

http://d2football.com/board/index.php?s=38f84bcc1652bbe95dd556c2316de5ba&showf orum=8

UNO wants to be I-AA, please. ::)

Go State! ;D

Mavericks#1
09-26-2005, 11:06 PM
89 Rabbitt,


And you are rated what? Thats what I thought. Have you forgotten about the arse whooping that you took last year 52-0. At least we scored. My guess would be that you weren't even born yet the last time your football team hoisted a trophy other then the Dakota Marker, which by the way will head back North this year. If D1AA football is so great, why did only a little over 1,000 more fans show up to watch a rated team(not you) than did the D2 game that you call so inferior. My guess is those extra 1,000 fans probably showed up because they thought they might get free beef or a box of cereal. Keep telling yourself that everything with your football program will be all right and before you know it Nurse Betty will be cleaning your dentures for you and it will 80 years since you've won a title.


Mavs#1

89rabbit
09-26-2005, 11:37 PM
The #5 team in D-II lost by 45 points to USD. Ouch that is embarrassing. :-[ You didn't just lose you got your butts kicked.

http://www.d2football.com/stadiums/south_dakota_stadium_1.jpg

Dakota Dome = Slaughter House

http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/sd/minnehaha/postcards/morrell.jpg

The UNO Cows thought they were walking into the Dakota Dome, turned out it was John Morrell's new beef processing plant in Vermillion.

I would want to change the focus of this thread too, if I were you. :'(


Go State! ;D

bigjake
09-27-2005, 05:47 AM
Heck, we were no. 4 in d2!! Very depressing. The sad thing about is that if usd hadn't have taken logan out they probably would have scored 75 on us. I was sitting next to a uno parent who was filming the game. I will bet that will be enjoyable for his son to watch. "Son, this is where you where you dropped 2 passes, this is where you missed a block, this is where some guy "cleaned your clock" at the 50 yd line. That guy should have had mercy on his son and turned the thing off but he never did.

We could lose for the next ten years like they did to us and I would still thank the heavens that at least we don't have beaten down, dilapidated trailer homes on our campus like usd does. Can't believe that a major univ has run down trailer homes on campus outside the dome. Even though we have run smack against sdsu you have to hand it to them that they do have a pretty nice campus especially compared with the other flagship sd univ.
You get no argument from me - I wish uno was in d1aa fb - it is the other sports like bb that I doubt we can compete in. I am going to your game against NE this fall so I will again get to see how your team is coming along.
UNO is a card game but UNO also means ONE in spanish which is really appropriate.

Mavericks#1
09-27-2005, 06:04 AM
UNO is a card game but UNO also means ONE in spanish which is really appropriate.



Ci Ci Amigo!!!

89rabbit
09-27-2005, 06:58 AM
You get no argument from me - I wish uno was in d1aa fb - it is the other sports like bb that I doubt we can compete in. . . .

UNO is a card game but UNO also means ONE in spanish which is really appropriate.

You should doubt your ability to copete in D-II football after Saturday. :o

How do you say we got killed by SDSU's little brother in spanish?

Go State! ;D

wererabbit
09-27-2005, 08:32 AM
uno win =one win in spanish cool who knew spanish could be so easy. ;) ;)hi big jake ,maverick#1 i am the new fan out of the dakotas i hope for the best for all the midwest teams to make a statement to the rest. there are good athletes in this area. :)thank you.

Mavericks#1
09-27-2005, 08:42 AM
uno win =one win in spanish cool who knew spanish could be so easy. ;) ;)hi big jake ,maverick#1 i am the new fan out of the dakotas i hope for the best for all the midwest teams to make a statement to the rest. there are good athletes in this area. :)thank you.


Can't be a rabbitt fan, too nice.

Mavericks#1
09-27-2005, 08:52 AM


How do you say we got killed by SDSU's little brother in spanish?





If USD is your little brother would that make Southwest Minnesota State your big brother?

89rabbit
09-27-2005, 09:00 AM
Well since Southwest Minnesota State is from Minnesota (as the name implies), I don't think we are related.

One thing is for sure we know who UNO's "daddy" is, and I don't mean in a family tree sort of way. ;)


http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/t029/T029157A.jsm
USD football players hard at work, last saturday.

Go State! ;D

MilwaukeeJacksAlum
09-28-2005, 01:48 PM
Have you forgotten about the arse whooping that you took last year 52-0.

We never got our "arse" whooped by USD. In fact, for the past 2 decades USD has been our whooping boy. You know, kind of like UNO for the rest of the NCC during the early 90s.

jackmd
10-01-2005, 07:02 PM
It appears that UND, USD and St. Cloud are the class of the NCC. Don't know where USD plays the Huskies or the Sioux but should be quite a battle for the NCC title and 2 playoff spots. I suppose UNO could step-up and knock of St Cloud but I think thats unlikely.

Coyote_Fan
10-02-2005, 02:10 AM
UNO will annihilate St. Cloud St in my opinion. They beat them last year at St. Cloud and get them at home this time around. UNO doesn't lose at home too often in the NCC. I will take UNO by 3 touchdowns.

SDSUFAN
10-02-2005, 04:28 AM
It appears that UND, USD and St. Cloud are the class of the NCC. Don't know where USD plays the Huskies or the Sioux but should be quite a battle for the NCC title and 2 playoff spots. I suppose UNO could step-up and knock of St Cloud but I think thats unlikely.

UND plays in Vermin town not sure about the St Cloud game. I listen to the UND game yesterday. UND defense is very good. If they can stop Birkel, St Cloud's version of Ranek, they probably can stop Logan.

jackmd
10-02-2005, 07:08 AM
UNO will annihilate St. Cloud St in my opinion. They beat them last year at St. Cloud and get them at home this time around. UNO doesn't lose at home too often in the NCC. I will take UNO by 3 touchdowns.

I think annihilate is a little strong. UNO will be tough to beat in Omaha and I suspect they will handle the Huskies. That said, the yotes must beat St. Cloud so that a loss vs UND won't hurt their playoff chances too badly. Quite a turn around orchestrated by Meikhort (sp?).

SDSUFAN
10-02-2005, 01:51 PM
Meierkort, I believe has an ME from SDSU so he is not a bad guy and I think he does know how to coach. I think what USD fans are overlooking when they bad mouth John Austin and his scheduling and coaching, is that all the recruits that Ed has had to work with were recruited by John Austin. I think the reason John Austin fought for his job was he knew he had just brought a good bunch on campus, most now are juniors and seniors including Logan and Beachcomber or what ever his name. He wanted more time to turn it around, but the unsucessful candidate for Governor Jim Abbott thought otherwise. ;)

Coyote_Fan
10-03-2005, 01:39 AM
I won't question John Austin's ability to get players he just didn't have a clue how to be an effective sideline coach. One of the biggests assets of Meierkort is his recruiting actually. I sure don't mind his game day preperation though.

SDSUFAN
10-03-2005, 04:24 AM
Coyote Fan:
How can you say Meierkort has recruiting skills when he has only been at USD two seasons. His squad as the schedule was made by John Austin. Possibley SDSU D1 may have temporaily given USD some extras, but that wont last for long.

coyotefanatic
10-03-2005, 09:12 AM
UND plays in Vermin town not sure about the St Cloud game. I listen to the UND game yesterday. UND defense is very good. If they can stop Birkel, St Cloud's version of Ranek, they probably can stop Logan.


Matt Birkel is not half the runningback that Josh Ranek was...Birkel is a product of a great line and system that is built around him. He is good...but not in the same class as Ranek. Logan and Day are far more talented backs that Birkel...however, statistically he will always be right up there with them because of the situation he is in. Look at his numbers against quality NCC teams and you will see that he was shut down in the Dakota Dome last year and obviously was against UND this weekend. He's great against inferior teams but struggles against legitimate ones.