SDSU Athletic Facilities Master Plan is now online

[Nidaros]

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The Wellness Center is not viewed by the Regents as an athletic facility. USD copied SDSU's model and their students will get a new wellness facility courtesy of new student fees, too.

As much as people don't want to hear it, CAS will look about the same way for the forseeable future, Dykhouse Center excluded. 10,000 seats at CAS will have to do until major donors step forward to help because the money isn't going to come from students or state government.

My point in mentioning students is that they were the ones call on to finish the financing in the late 1950's and early 1960's for this inadequate facility called Coughlin Alumni Staduim that we are now about to tear down. I mentioned the Wellness Center as a project they are currently paying for, and yes it had nothing to do with the D1 policy. I was just wondering out loud if the students would want a new facility for football and would they be willing to help. The answer to both is probably a no.

Why do we have to wait on major donors to come forward? I am willing to bet that you or I can set up an acorn for this purpose. If several of us were to do this maybe the staduim could be replaced before it falls down.

[JimmyJack]

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My mistake JJ. I should've put "long term financing" as the option that that President and the AD may find out they need from the State in the form of repayable bonds, and not tax payer money.
But won't the SDBOR have to give SDSU the yes/no in order to take on that debt for a new stadium??
I guess that's where I'm going back to the statement..."all expenditures associated with the move to D-1 will be raised by private donations" comes into play with the SDBOR and hopfully they have softened on this line of thinking.

Sorry, I get what you're saying. Yes, the SDBOR has the final say over everything we do.

[SUPERBUNNY]

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Just a question here for all of you.

If CAS is near the end of its life-cycle, shouldn't the state help with building back a stadium that equals what we have now and anything we upgrade from there needs to be done by financing and donations?

How did USD get the roof on the Dakota Dump replaced? State funds or donations?

SDSU is certainly getting its fair share of construction dollars so I ask more out of curiosity rather than thinking it is something that is due SDSU.

My understanding is we have between 5 and 10 years left before CAS has to be refurbished or replaced. That is not a long time.

BTW-I think we should build a 20K stadium with upgrades to 30K a possibility.

[JACKGUYII]

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My guess is if the need to upgrade and replace CAS was as obvious while we were still in DII and a request was made to the state it would not get near the attention it will now that we are DI. I imagine the athletic administration and university are working on multiple revenue and financing options to reshape CAS. I think it will happen in gradual stages. It would be nice if we could build a new east side first that seats 8,000 + and then tear down the west side and put up a new structure with chairback seats,suites, pressbox etc. The DI move has been tremendous for giving to the foundation and the recruitment of new students as evidenced by the record enrollment every year. A new football stadium and Multi-Sport Indoor Practice Facility will go a long way towards continuing that momentum. I think it will take a large corporate or private pledge to get the ball rolling which will not be easy in the current financial situation.

[Jacks#1Fan]

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I guess I don't get it. If a building on campus is not safe and has to be torn down and replaced do we go out and solicit private donations? Why is CAS any different as it has certainly serves it's usefullness. I don't think it realistic for their not to be some kind of shared responsibility between the state, students, city,user tax and private donations. I know that is how the new University of Minnesota stadium got done. We know the dome in Vermillion was not built with exclusive private donations if any?

First of all, my reply to your earlier post was that it is nice Augie has a new stadium, but it cost way less, and scaled up to what we need will be big $$$ and it ain't going to happen in the near future.

The dome in Vermillion required lots of private dollars. USD got the same appropriation (upped for inflation because it came later) as SDSU got for the HPER Center. We chose to build a basketball facility, and they chose to build a football facility. The cost ran a lot above the appropriated dollars, and they needed private money, plus they sold their souls when they got people to buy seats for a 10-year period (and thus had no income from those seats for the next decade, which hurt their operating income level) to pay for it. As for their roof replacement, they got money courtesy of grad Bill Janklow (state $$$s), but also had to raise private dollars for it.

No need to repeat this more than this one more time: CAS needs replacing (shelf life of the west stands is somewhere around 10 years down the road) and it may come sooner than that, but the next building built for SDSU athletics will be an indoor practice facility...period.

[Nidaros]

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Agree with Jack #1 Fan, and its sounds to me we are following the Master Plan. I for one do not have a better idea.

[WestSideRabbit]

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The money won't come from the students. The regents won't allow a GAF increase for a football stadium. Tuition and Fees have gone up 14% in the past two years just to run the campus we have currently. Students were angry about that on campus this year. Its going to be private. Thats the only realistic option.

[JimmyJack]

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The money won't come from the students. The regents won't allow a GAF increase for a football stadium. Tuition and Fees have gone up 14% in the past two years just to run the campus we have currently. Students were angry about that on campus this year. Its going to be private. Thats the only realistic option.

Right. It shouldn't come from the students anyway. The students have stepped up in so many ways in the last few years. Right now, students pay more than 50 percent of their educational costs, and taxpayers provide less than 50 percent. That's pretty sad for a "public" education system, but that's another thread.

Patience is the key here. It'll happen, but it's not at the top of the priority list right now. Soon enough, it will be.

[rational thought]

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IMO a quickfix to the stadium would be a new pressbox w/ VIP seating and an elevator to get there.....say what you will, but the permanent seating does have a lot of life left...but Press box is an eyesore and there nothing like seeing coaches have to bob and weave through the crowd trying to get down and have their meetings at halftime.

And it's a great place for the AD to entertain our bigtime boosters (especially in Nov.).

[89rabbit]

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I saw this over on Terry's twitter page:

http://omaha.com/article/20090809/SPORTS/708099813

Creighton: Bluejays unveil Sokol Arena

By Steven Pivovar
WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER



Creighton volleyball player Jessica Houts now regards her misfortune of two years ago in a different light.

A torn anterior cruciate ligament eight games into the 2007 season forced her to miss the remainder of the year and take a medical redshirt. Had she not been injured, Houts would have finished off her Creighton career last season with a flourish, earning All-America honorable mention recognition.

That would have prevented her from being with her teammates this morning when they step onto the floor at the D.J. Sokol Arena and become part of a new era in Creighton athletics.

“This definitely is the silver lining in getting hurt,'' said Houts, a fifth-year senior from Bloomington, Minn. “I'm happy to have a chance to help this team out this season, and I'm happy that I'll get a chance to play here.'' . . .

“This is a dream come true,'' said Marian Gyhra, a longtime Creighton volleyball supporter. “This is going to be a Top 10 facility. It's going to help recruiting and it's going to give them something to build on.''

Chevelle Herring will get a chance to play her final basketball season in the new arena. Like Houts, an injury extended her career by one season. She said she's looking forward to finally having a true home-court advantage.

“We've played at Marquette and South Dakota State, and their facilities are pretty much like this,'' she said. “They have great atmospheres, and I think we could have the same thing here. This is a huge upgrade from what we used to have.'' . . . (read more)

I know we have been talking about CAS and what it needs, but it is nice to have one of our facilities thought so highly of. Of course our is much bigger!


Go State!

[SturgisJeff]

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http://www.mgoblue.com/facilities/ar...aspx?id=182422#

Univ of Michigans new indoor football facility