ESPN Poll

[BDSUPERJACK]

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The State of South Dakota should be embarrassed by this imposturous act of USD greed.

On a lighter note and from an earlier post, is it true that the Coyote ‘Flag Ship’ station is doing a radio broadcast from the SDSU campus to cover Jackrabbit football and if so, what a slap in the face to Coyote fans. That station must be looking to carry a different team.

Jacks for Life.

Thanks 89 for the kind welcome. Pleasure to be here.

[SDsportsFan]

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Can you say naive?  Mistaking a single persons implementation of a computer program which repeatedly enters the same response to each question in the poll without thought or sincerity as the whole of USD alums supporting their school, would pretty well define that word and your interpretation of the current situation.  I would even say that the individual who designed the program deserves ridicule for exactly the reasons outlined by 89.  The results, if taken seriously, are embarassing for all South Dakotans.

Lets try to be objective without a great deal of discussion.  Partisanship is a natural part of human nature but to mistake the results of this poll as reflective of the true nature of sports and celebrity in SD is just plain assanine.  I'm not taking it any further than that.  Try to think when reading a post and before posting a reply.  Its hard to know how naive a bystander is.

I don't know if anyone is trying to act like these polls are reflective of the true nature of sports and celebrity in SD but to act like USD alums should be embarrassed because USD is leading in the polls is assanine. As a State alum should I have been embarrassed when we were leading in the polls, when I knew part of the reason we were leading was because of ballot stuffing on our part.
We both stuffed ballots, they just designed a program to do it better than us. I don't think it's any reason for either side to be ashamed of. To suggest that USD alums should be ashamed of this is to really put more importance on the poll than there should be.

[jackmd]

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I don't know if anyone is trying to act like these polls are reflective of the true nature of sports and celebrity in SD but to act like USD alums should be embarrassed because USD is leading in the polls is assanine.  As a State alum should I have been embarrassed when we were leading in the polls, when I knew part of the reason we were leading was because of ballot stuffing on our part.
We both stuffed ballots, they just designed a program to do it better than us.  I don't think it's any reason for either side to be ashamed of.  To suggest that USD alums should be ashamed of this is to really put more importance on the poll than there should be.

I wouldn't equate voting 10 times by a single person over a one month span with a program that votes 8-10 times per minute or 500 times an hour with the same answer each and every time. If you do, than that is where we differ here. I can't definitely tell where you stand on the importance of the poll. I know the results are irrelevant. That doesn't change the way I feel about the methods with which the results were obtained.

[MilwaukeeJacksAlum]

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I'm just thinking out loud hear (as I often do), but wouldn't all that passion and computer where-with-all be perfect to start a USD board? I mean, somebody's obviously very passionate about USD (or against SDSU). You'd think they would have a spare minute or two to start a discussion board. Heck, if we farmers and cattle hurders can figure out how to work one of these fancy computer-thingies, those fancy pants lawyers and doctors at USD should be able to figure it out. Just a thought.

[SDsportsFan]

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I wouldn't equate voting 10 times by a single person over a one month span with a program that votes 8-10 times per minute or 500 times an hour with the same answer each and every time.  If you do, than that is where we differ here.  I can't definitely tell where you stand on the importance of the poll.  I know the results are irrelevant.  That doesn't change the way I feel about the methods with which the results were obtained.

I actually voted over a 1,000 times. Not to mention, there were State fans that set up programs to vote automatically as well. If you don't believe me then you should ask some of your friends. Thats why I say we are both guilty of ballot stuffing. We agree on one thing, the results are irrelevant.

[Rabbitlivinginverm]

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I actually voted over a 1,000 times.  Not to mention, there were State fans that set up programs to vote automatically as well.  If you don't believe me then you should ask some of your friends.  Thats why I say we are both guilty of ballot stuffing.  We agree on one thing, the results are irrelevant.

Well they sure did a rotten job

[89rabbit]

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Yea, no kidding.  I never saw our numbers going up at a steady rate hour after hour, day after day.

Go State!  ;D

[el_presidente]

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Anyone notice that there has been 100,000 votes. That is crazy and obvious ballot stuffing.

[filbert]

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Yea, no kidding. I never saw our numbers going up at a steady rate hour after hour, day after day.

Go State! ;D

I think the correct spin here is that State grads have better things to apply their technical skills to than stuffing meaningless Internet polls.

I could have figured out how to do it had I been sufficiently motivated to do so. I did hit the Back button more than my fair share of times but it really wasn't important enough for me to whip up a Perl script and run it for a couple of weeks.

In ten years, nobody will even remember Who-S-D anyway, so on to the fall sports season! Go Rabbits!

[filbert]

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Anyone notice that there has been 100,000 votes. That is crazy and obvious ballot stuffing.

It would be interesting to know if USD computer resources were used to do this . . . I'm pretty sure that would not be an "acceptable use" of State resources.

[Rabbitlivinginverm]

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It would be interesting to know if USD computer resources were used to do this . . . I'm pretty sure that would not be an "acceptable use" of State resources.

I was thinking this as well. Hmmmm.....sure would be interesting to know where all these votes came from.

[Coyote_Fan]

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Talk about hypocrites, that is exactly what most of you on this board are.   The poll results started out being generally in favor os USD over SDSU until word of the poll got out on this board.  Then the results starting slanting SDSU after many people on here started voting in big numbers.  Now all the sudden USD takes back the lead and SDSU people cry foul and state how "unimportant" the poll suddenly is.  Just a few days ago it didn't seem so "unimportant".  It's easy to slant things a to your liking which is exactly what most of you are doing.  

USD also got their support on camera when ESPN did their show in Sturgis as the Argus Leader (which slants in favor of SDSU) reported.  Where were all the Jacks supporters?

It looks like USD being "South Dakota's Team" has a little more substance behind it than many in here want to admit.  

http://www.argusleader.com/apps/pbcs...508110352/1001

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STURGIS - As a pair of ESPN camera operators fanned out onto Main Street from their "SportsCenter" set at the intersection of Main and First to get images of the crowd Wednesday, there was no shortage of people seeking a moment of fame.

Obviously.

This street this week is a powerful draw for individuals who are yearning to stand out and are as clever as Thomas Edison in inventing ways to do so. They generally can be grouped into two categories: those who figure putting something on will get them noticed and those who figure taking something off will.

Not everyone wanted to be a star, however.

"My wife doesn't know I'm here. If she sees me on TV, I'm in trouble," one man said.

Showing up as background scenery on ESPN was not the only way to get busted Wednesday. Rolf Olson and his wife, Marcia, of Vermillion and Kim Olson of Yankton were holding up an immense banner advertising the University of South Dakota. They were trying to attract a camera lens when Bob Peitz of Yankton walked by and declared approvingly, "Go Yotes."

His black vest full of rally pins recorded 18 trips to Sturgis. He was a USD alum, he said, and had earned a pair of master's degrees there in the 1970s.

"It was a fun school," he recalled.

But an earlier memory is more fascinating.

"I went to school with (USD President) Jim Abbott," Peitz said.

Really?

"I knew Jim when he worked at the Tastee Treat Drive In in Yankton," Peitz continued. "He wasn't a great carhop, but he was a pretty good cook."

The Olsons happened to be on Main Street with their banner because Rolf, director of the USD marching band, mentioned to the university's athletic director, Joel Nielsen, that he was coming to the rally for the first time.

Nielsen prevailed upon him to take the banner and try to get it some airtime on ESPN.

The Olsons almost made it happen, too. They had a camera operator prepared to roll tape until he was overruled by the director.

"He's more about the bikers, I guess," the operator told Olson. Moments later, he turned his lens on a wild-haired woman whose coif looked like a riot in a rainbow and who was pushing the bounds of modesty - hard - with a leather bikini.

While ESPN's Kenny Mayne was extolling South Dakota sports from the outdoor studio set downtown, some actual competition took place at the Jackpine Gypsies hill climb about a mile away.

The course, about 200 feet, rose in a steep, short pitch; a small terrace; a second, shorter rise with a groove in the middle the riders aimed for as their route; then a bowl; and finally, above that, a long pitch that had only enough relief in the gradient to keep the sand that absorbed any trace of speed riders managed to carry with them to that point from sliding off.

The thing looked like an unsolvable geometry problem. The angles were impossible. Indeed, the hill stopped many riders by the second rise. Others, with the temerity to make it as far as the lip of the bowl, had their motorcycles rear back on them and chase them sliding down the hill.

And then Jesse Varns of Rapid City, in the 250- to 400-cubic-inch class, wriggled his way up the first two-thirds onto the vertical beach of the final wall, where he somehow kept the bike moving upward until he finally laid it on its side at the peak.

Hill climbers are a droll bunch. After Varns rode around the hill back to the base, he parked next to Chris Hlucny of Greenbush, Minn., who was waiting his turn to climb.

"Bike run OK at that elevation?" Hlucny asked. "What's it look like up there?"

Varns turned to him and grinned.

"Weather's good," he said.

Reach reporter Peter Harriman at 575-3615

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[SDSUFAN]

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Its amazing what USD alums can and will do as long as no one asks them to open their wallet and give the old alma mater a few bucks.

[OK_Jackrabbit]

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Talk about hypocrites, that is exactly what most of you on this board are.   The poll results started out being generally in favor os USD over SDSU until word of the poll got out on this board.  Then the results starting slanting SDSU after many people on here started voting in big numbers.  Now all the sudden USD takes back the lead and SDSU people cry foul and state how "unimportant" the poll suddenly is.  Just a few days ago it didn't seem so "unimportant".  It's easy to slant things a to your liking which is exactly what most of you are doing.

Reread this thread. You'll note that several of us have been sayiing all along that this "poll" is not a poll and that ESPN set it up without controls, making it irrelevant. So get a grip on yourself and go back to posting on the South Dakota's Team bulletin board... Oh, wait, there isn't one.

[jackmd]

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Talk about hypocrites, that is exactly what most of you on this board are.  

It looks like USD being "South Dakota's Team" has a little more substance behind it than many in here want to admit.  

Hypocrites, coming from an outsider who just joined the conversation, way to start off on the right foot.

USD is perfect for the student, fan, or alum who likes the status quo. That just doesn't suit me.