Western Regional 2015

[HoboJack]

Re: Western Regional 2015

I was told that you can't advance to NCAA Nationals in wrestling if you don't participate in a regional meet. That was why Rotert wrestled in only one match at regionals.

[MontanaRabbit]

Re: Western Regional 2015

Sorry. I misread the line of yours that I bolded. I thought you were restating that Rotert had forfeited all the way through.

No sir. I probably could have used a comma to make that a tad more clear.

I actually followed the tourney a bit on my phone and missed that he wrestled and lost his first match thus my incorrect original statement that he forfeited his way through the tourney.

[Hammersmith]

Re: Western Regional 2015

Did you read the thread?

I'm not reading anything wrong.

Sorry. I misread the line of yours that I bolded. I thought you were restating that Rotert had forfeited all the way through.

[MontanaRabbit]

Re: Western Regional 2015

You must be reading that wrong. Rotert(SDSU) and Petersen(NDSU) wrestled in match #18, where Petersen won in a 5-3 decision. Rotert then had a bye, and then medically forfeited match #58 to Thomas(UVU).

Did you read the thread?

I'm not reading anything wrong.

[Hammersmith]

Re: Western Regional 2015

I see I thought he forfeited all the way through.

Not sure I see the reasoning behind forfeiting though. In order to get the true second even if he wins the first round he has to wrestle a minimum of two more matches to get the true second place finish. Even losing the first one he would only have to wrestly three. Not much of a difference between winning the first round and losing when there are only 6 guys in your weight class.

http://www.gojacks.com/pdf9/3259328.pdf

Best case he wins his first two and forfeits the final and hopes that the one of the guys he beat fights his way back into the true 2nd match.

I'm kinda of the mindset of get in and get the thing fixed so you can rehab and be back at 100% for the start of next season. Yu Darvish for the Rangers is a perfect example. He had arm problems at the end of last season. Instead of having surgery they waited all winter. He pitches one inning in spring training and finds his arm still isn't right. They then elect to do have Tommy John. He won't be back until sometime mid 2016 now and will likely have an innings limit. Had he done the surgery right away he could potentially be starting a come back the end of this season with an innings limit.

Hopefully Nate can come back 100% next fall. He's got a bright future.

You must be reading that wrong. Rotert(SDSU) and Petersen(NDSU) wrestled in match #18, where Petersen won in a 5-3 decision. Rotert then had a bye, and then medically forfeited match #58 to Thomas(UVU).

[MontanaRabbit]

Re: Western Regional 2015

Rotert lost his first match, 5-3. His weight class had only two automatic qualifiers. For him to come back and get the second one would have been difficult. A lot of matches on his shoulder in just one day.

I see I thought he forfeited all the way through.

Not sure I see the reasoning behind forfeiting though. In order to get the true second even if he wins the first round he has to wrestle a minimum of two more matches to get the true second place finish. Even losing the first one he would only have to wrestly three. Not much of a difference between winning the first round and losing when there are only 6 guys in your weight class.

http://www.gojacks.com/pdf9/3259328.pdf

Best case he wins his first two and forfeits the final and hopes that the one of the guys he beat fights his way back into the true 2nd match.

I'm kinda of the mindset of get in and get the thing fixed so you can rehab and be back at 100% for the start of next season. Yu Darvish for the Rangers is a perfect example. He had arm problems at the end of last season. Instead of having surgery they waited all winter. He pitches one inning in spring training and finds his arm still isn't right. They then elect to do have Tommy John. He won't be back until sometime mid 2016 now and will likely have an innings limit. Had he done the surgery right away he could potentially be starting a come back the end of this season with an innings limit.

Hopefully Nate can come back 100% next fall. He's got a bright future.

[Hammersmith]

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Interesting. You know why he didn't wrestle in the regional?

Probably like one of ours. Our Knutson injured his ankle during the HWT title match with your Everard. Since the WWC had two autobids in that weight class, Knutson and Harms from Wyo should have had a true second place match to determine the second autobid. But Knutson knew that his national ranking virtually guaranteed him one of the at-large selections, so he chose to medically forfeit the match to prevent any additional damage to his ankle. And it worked. Knutson got an at-large, so he, Everard and Harms will all be representing the WWC at nationals.

[UWMandSDSU]

Re: Western Regional 2015

Interesting. You know why he didn't wrestle in the regional?

Rotert lost his first match, 5-3. His weight class had only two automatic qualifiers. For him to come back and get the second one would have been difficult. A lot of matches on his shoulder in just one day.

[MontanaRabbit]

Re: Western Regional 2015

From everything I've heard, he is going to wrestle. Just not sure how effectively...

Interesting. You know why he didn't wrestle in the regional?

[jackrabbit1979]

Re: Western Regional 2015

He forfeited through the west regional. I'd be surprised if he wrestles. You'd think if he was going to wrestle in the national tourney he would have wrestled at regionals.

From everything I've heard, he is going to wrestle. Just not sure how effectively...

[MontanaRabbit]

Re: Western Regional 2015

It will be interesting to see if Nate wrestles and how effectively he does so if he does compete. He's been wrestling the past month (since Oregon State dual) with a severely injured shoulder and trying to pick and choose spots as to when he actually competes based on team needs for a dual, competition, etc. I believe he'll have surgery on the shoulder immediately after the season is over.

He forfeited through the west regional. I'd be surprised if he wrestles. You'd think if he was going to wrestle in the national tourney he would have wrestled at regionals.

[jackrabbit1979]

Re: Western Regional 2015

It will be interesting to see if Nate wrestles and how effectively he does so if he does compete. He's been wrestling the past month (since Oregon State dual) with a severely injured shoulder and trying to pick and choose spots as to when he actually competes based on team needs for a dual, competition, etc. I believe he'll have surgery on the shoulder immediately after the season is over.

[91jack]

Re: Western Regional 2015

It looks like Nate Rotert has moved on, too. The person that he wrestles in the 1st round has a record similar to him. It will be interesting to see how all three do.

[GopherHole]

Re: Western Regional 2015

Under the NCAA web site, they have the coaches rankings and RPI rankings for each weight class.

Cody Pack is ranked #6 by the coaches and carries a #10 RPI ranking.

JJ Everard is not ranked under either classification. It is interesting that both wrestlers he beat in the semifinals and finals are ranked. NDSU's Knutson has #13/#18 rankings and Wyoming's Tanner Harms has #22/#15 rankings. Knutson qualified for the NCAA Championships and Harms did not. I'd expect a tough draw for Everard in St. Louis.

[GopherHole]

Re: Western Regional 2015

It's unfortunate that SDSU's wrestlers only sent 2 to the NCAA's. The conference sent 19 to the NCAA's. This was based on each weight class sending a certain number of qualifiers based on three categories. Of our 5 conference finalists, JJ Everard was the only Jackrabbit in a weight class that was sending more than the conference champion to the NCAA Championships.

The complete qualification criteria from the NCAA can be found here. While the Western Wrestling Conference can't be compared to the B1G TEN, which qualified 86 wrestlers, the WWC qualified 19. This is the same amount as the PAC-12 and more than the Eastern Wrestling League and the Southern Conference.