WNIT

[MilwaukeeJacksAlum]

What is everyone's thoughts on our chances of getting a WNIT invite this year? We've had some nice wins over big name programs and most of our losses have been close. If we win the majority of our games from here on, it has to be a distinct possibility. Right?

[JACKRP]

Re: WNIT

We are now 11-8 on the season. I am fairly sure that 18-19 wins will get us into the WNIT. I was hoping that we would be 13-6 at this point in the season rather than 11-8. It is a real possibility if we beat a couple of team with a better RPI down the stretch. The WNIT loves teams that finish strong. But they also love teams with a big following. That would be the Jackrabbit Nation, Right?
Go State!!!

[JH81]

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Not knowing DI WBB at all, I'd still say chances are still slim and none even if we run the table. Granted, are there 96 teams (64 NCAA and 32 WNIT) better than the Jacks, don't know. But for a second year DI school to make the WNIT there would have to be some more quality wins IMO. Hate to be negative, but it's just how I think it would play out. Had we beat one or two top 50 teams, then consideration might be given. Problem is we don't have those teams on our schedule (do we?).

[Texas_Jacks_Fan]

Re: WNIT

Our most quality win was at Nebraska currently RPI #64

[SiouxFallsJack]

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If we win out, and thats a big if, it would give us 20 wins. Unfortunately two of those would be DII wins and I think we need more than 18 DI wins. Losing to Brown and Middle Tennessee St. hurts our chances. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I think 18-20 wins will get us in next year.

[filbert]

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The reality is that you probably have to be one of the top 96 teams in the country to make it into the WNIT.

Here are the teams between our current RPI and #96:

97. UAB 9 8 .5602 77 .5394
98. Penn St. 8 10 .5685 66 .5388
99. Louisiana-Monroe 12 5 .4697 202 .5384
100. Dartmouth 10 4 .4702 201 .5380
101. Marist 12 5 .4746 193 .5359
102. Samford 13 4 .4547 226 .5333
103. Seton Hall 6 11 .6202 17 .5305
104. Stephen F.Austin 11 6 .4934 163 .5304
105. Long Beach St. 13 5 .4641 211 .5304
106. Illinois 12 6 .4543 229 .5294
107. Fresno St. 13 4 .4275 269 .5291
108. Binghamton 10 6 .5061 142 .5271
109. Eastern Michigan 11 5 .4589 218 .5251
110. Valparaiso 11 6 .4720 197 .5243
111. Ark.-Little Rock 10 8 .5281 109 .5240
112. Air Force 8 7 .5262 112 .5235
113. Loyola Marymount 11 8 .5056 143 .5222
114. Northern Arizona 12 6 .4630 213 .5221
115. Kent St. 11 5 .4595 216 .5217
116. Oregon St. 8 8 .5298 106 .5215
117. Ball St. 10 6 .4909 169 .5214
118. Wisconsin 6 12 .6112 26 .5214
119. Northern Iowa 10 6 .4807 183 .5196
120. Princeton 12 4 .4275 270 .5192
121. Arizona 7 12 .5899 43 .5181
122. Texas-San Ant. 9 7 .5101 133 .5174
123. Denver 9 8 .5195 119 .5171
124. Marshall 10 6 .4687 204 .5163
125. UW-Milwaukee 9 7 .4923 167 .5144
126. West Virginia 10 6 .4622 215 .5140
127. Alabama 8 10 .5625 75 .5133
128. Arkansas 12 6 .4376 258 .5132
129. Dayton 12 5 .4252 274 .5122
130. UTEP 10 7 .4924 166 .5116
131. Oral Roberts 6 8 .5604 76 .5113
132. La Salle 9 8 .4995 152 .5100
133. Rice 6 11 .5731 59 .5091
134. East Carolina 11 6 .4518 237 .5081
135. IUPUI 11 6 .4465 246 .5080
136. Davidson 8 7 .4993 153 .5071
137. Iona 8 9 .5391 101 .5066
138. UNC Asheville 8 6 .4986 155 .5061
139. UC Santa Barbara 8 8 .5137 128 .5052
140. Southern Ill. 8 9 .5235 114 .5045
141. Colorado St. 6 9 .5456 89 .5041
142. William & Mary 8 8 .5039 146 .5025
143. Bucknell 10 7 .4684 205 .5022
144. Oklahoma St. 5 11 .6021 32 .5015
145. San Jose St. 9 6 .4544 228 .5008
146. Richmond 8 11 .5335 104 .5005
147. Western Michigan 6 10 .5572 81 .5001
148. Gonzaga 9 12 .5443 92 .4999
149. Coastal Carolina 5 5 .5100 134 .4996
150. George Mason 5 11 .5816 48 .4994
151. Georgetown 8 9 .5182 122 .4991
152. Sacred Heart 14 2 .3169 331 .4980
153. Radford 7 7 .5086 138 .4978
154. Drake 8 8 .4879 176 .4971
155. Weber St. 9 8 .4893 172 .4968
156. Mississippi St. 6 13 .5820 47 .4957
157. Loyola-Maryland 10 7 .4526 232 .4951
158. Santa Clara 9 9 .4926 165 .4929
159. Clemson 8 11 .5226 115 .4929
160. Northern Ill. 6 10 .5586 78 .4928
161. Holy Cross 7 10 .5188 120 .4926
162. Michigan 6 13 .5687 65 .4921
163. Wichita St. 9 6 .4233 277 .4919
164. South Dakota St. 10 8 .4588 219 .4917

It strains credulity to think that we're going to jump over all of those teams. Winning out might do it, but I wouldn't bet on it.

[JBNJBQ]

Re: WNIT

The reality is that you probably have to be one of the top 96 teams in the country to make it into the WNIT.

Here are the teams between our current RPI and #96:
It strains credulity to think that we're going to jump over all of those teams.  Winning out might do it, but I wouldn't bet on it.

http://www.rpiratings.com/womrate.htm


Looks like the women have jumped to the 103 spot in just 3 hours since your post.


 96  Dartmouth
 97  Stephen F.Austin
 98  Texas A&M-CC
 99  Liberty
100  Tennessee Tech
101  Valparaiso
102  Marist
103  South Dakota St.


At that rate they could be #1 by next week? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

[Texas_Jacks_Fan]

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I think were looking at two diffrent ranking profiles, I am getting my numbers from the Sagarin power ratings like jbnjbq where we are currently # 103.

filbert, can you post a link to your rating index?
Thanks!!

[SDSUFAN]

Re: WNIT

There were several over on D2football.com that were less than complimentry about Sagarin's rating system. I have no idea myself how these rating systems work, but they seem to be very important in playing D1 sports. $$$$$$$$$$$$ are earned based on these ratings so we need to pay attention. Before D1, I really did not care who was 103 or 136, but now I do.

I think our Jack Women need to play their best and win as many as possible to be considered, but you never know.  

[Texas_Jacks_Fan]

Re: WNIT

I think Sagrin is a great system, and this applies to football as well. If you have looked at the teams immediately around SDSU in these rankings, and then look at our opponents that we have defeated they are all fairly close to our ranking (with the occasional exception)

[SDSUFAN]

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Tex:
You are probably right, I the student here on ratings.
Our Jacks need the wins to get there though and thats the real issue.

[filbert]

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This is the one mine came from:

http://www.rpiratings.com/womensrpi.html

People confuse all of the ratings systems. But the NCAA (and probably the WNIT) are going to look especially closely at the RPI, as it's the NCAA's "own" ranking system.

Remaining schedule:
#59 at FIU
D-II Southwest Minn.
#211 NDSU
#311 at Texas-Pan American
#72 at TAMU-CC
#211 at NDSU
#297 at IPFW
#255 at UC Riverside
D-II Central State

Only the FIU and TAMU-CC games hold the potential to really move the RPI positively. The TPAU and IPFW games will probably hurt more then help as their RPI's are so low.

Unless the women absolutely go nuts the last month of the season, I think it'll be close-but-no-cigar for the WNIT. I'd love to be proved wrong, however.

[JBNJBQ]

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http://www.womensnit.com/05-Post-Bracket.pdf



2005 POSTSEASON WNIT TEAMS:
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TOTAL WINS= 614

TOTAL LOSSES= 281

AVG WINS= 19

AVG LOSSES= 9

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SDSU CURRENT RECORD= 11 wins (eight losses)

SDSU WINS OUT= 20 wins (eight losses)
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[Texas_Jacks_Fan]

Re: WNIT

There are three tough road games that are all MUST win
Tonight against FIU, at NDSU in Fargo and at TAM-CC. If we can win out we may have a shot at the WNIT.

[rabbit_man]

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Bottom line...every win counts in this WNIT race. The important RPUI ranking to watch will be the one that the NCAA will be putting out this year....
On the NCAAsports.com webpage, they have a recent release stating the RPI ranking will be coing out soon.
THis is the one they will use for the 64 team bracket. From what I've heard the WNIT will use that as a basis plus have the chance to select others based on " other criteria"....like fan support. ...like the Jackrabbit Nation!