GDT SDSU vs. BYU

[jacks1]

Re: GDT SDSU vs. BYU

Yes talent wise they would not lose a game in the Summit, but the big post people are the problem for the Jacks. Cullen Ober daughter did a great job for being a true freshman. She is tough, but not big enough to handle a Hamson. We need to find some big ladies.

What the hell are you talking about? This is the biggest team in the history of the program. I think we'll be ok.

[JamesJacks]

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IMO the Jacks biggest issue against BYU was the defense. Disappointing. BYU was able to get any shot they wanted all game long. The offense will fine as there are enough players who can score on this team. Not going to over react after the first game.

[jackdaniel]

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IMO the Jacks biggest issue against BYU was the defense. Disappointing. BYU was able to get any shot they wanted all game long. The offense will fine as there are enough players who can score on this team. Not going to over react after the first game.

I agree, noticed we seemed to be chasing the passes,instead of being in position to deny passes.They,on the other hand,played very tight,without fouling,and seemed in position to deny what it was we were trying to do.Being disruptive I guess would be the word.

Hamson may have been the key for them to be able to guard the perimeter without having to worry so much about the paint.That's the luxury of having a 6'8" shot blocker.Also,a stuggling offense and a stuggling defense combined,makes for a long day.

Creighton,our next game,should be better for us.

[jackdaniel]

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I saw a lot of times where we were beaten by one-half to one step. That half to one step resulted in a lot of turnovers and a lot of points for the opponents, thus, the blowout. Once the Jackrabbits get used to each other and the schemes they are playing, I think they will close that step and will end up in far better circumstances on the scoreboard.

I do believe in AJ's system of player development,but it does come to the detrimate of cohesiveness of players, getting to know little things about how each other reacts in different situations,etc.That said,it all starts clicking eventually and the team benefits with plug and play players and enhanced depth.Guess I'd take the advantages over the disadvantges of player development....and it's fun to see it happen.....we will get there...takes a little time is all.By the time our players are seniors,they are playing to their full potential,thanks to AJ's system of developing them when they were young and inexperienced.

[Nidaros]

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What the hell are you talking about? This is the biggest team in the history of the program. I think we'll be ok.

We have recruited some small players. 6-2 is not big for women any more. You have to have someone bigger to match up with posts like Hamson, that's what I am talking about

[jackdaniel]

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Just watched the replay of this game on BYUtv.We are a very talented team.We made uncharacteristicly bad passes,missed lay ups....and,dare I say it,because we are so talented,we just didn't fight as hard for rebounds, loose balls, etc.,and BYU really got fired up and we were flat.BYU made all the big plays through hard work and extra effort.Too many rebounds we had that were ripped away,which were then turned into points.Bailey of BYU was a force for them underneath as well as Hamson.At this level of basketball,no ones going to give you an easy game.That said, it wasn't a loss due to all our failings...BYU made some big shots and played very well.That combination resulted in the lopsided win for them.Credit BYU,they took us out of our game and frustrated us.I want to recant my earlier statement we went right at Hamson,we didn't,just that those long arms were everywhere.The freshmen got a taste of the diff between Div 1 and Div 2 basketball.I won't ever say its a good thing to lose a game,but being this early in the season,there's plenty of season left to improve.I still feel like this team will make its mark yet...one bad game does not a season make.Looking forward to the next game.

[jacks1]

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We have recruited some small players.

Every team does...they're called guards.

6-2 is not big for women any more.

That is simply not true...

You have to have someone bigger to match up with posts like Hamson

And where do you suggest we find a 6'7" post to match up with her?

[Nidaros]

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Every team does...they're called guards.



That is simply not true...



And where do you suggest we find a 6'7" post to match up with her?

Rock Valley Iowa, might have one. Okay I am stupid and you are smart. I sorry I even commented. There are getting to be sooooooooo many who know more than I do. So whats the point. End of conversation.

[bigticket1]

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Just watched the replay of this game on BYUtv.We are a very talented team.We made uncharachteristic bad passes,missed lay ups....and,dare I say it,because we are so talented,we just didn't fight as hard for rebounds, loose balls, etc.,and BYU really got fired up and we were flat.BYU made all the big plays through hard work and extra effort.Too many rebounds we had that were ripped away,which were then turned into points.Bailey of BYU was a force for them underneath as well as Hamson.At this level of basketball,no ones going to give you an easy game.That said, it wasn't a loss due to all our failings...BYU made some big shots and played very well.That combination resulted in the lopsided win for them.The freshmen got a taste of the diff between Div 1 and Div 2 basketball.I won't ever say its a good thing to lose a game,but being this early in the season,there's plenty of season left to improve.I still feel like this team will make its mark yet...one bad game does not a season make.

The thing that worried me after watching the BYU game was that the Jacks had a number of players that had trouble creating their own shots. Some of that was because of the big gal inside , but there were a number of perimeter players who had jump shots swatted back in their face by people that were their own size. It might just be a factor of needing to be more efficient in running the offense and setting better screens to open up shots , but there was definitely a difference in athleticism for both inside and perimeter players in that game.

[OldHare]

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The thing that worried me after watching the BYU game was that the Jacks had a number of players that had trouble creating their own shots. Some of that was because of the big gal inside , but there were a number of perimeter players who had jump shots swatted back in their face by people that were their own size. It might just be a factor of needing to be more efficient in running the offense and setting better screens to open up shots , but there was definitely a difference in athleticism for both inside and perimeter players in that game.

The situation of forcing errors against taller posts was a problem against South Carolina in the tournament as well. We had many turnovers and blocked shots in that game as well. We might need to make some tweaks when encountering these taller athletic women. There should be enough talent to find some points without trying to force inside action. However our horrible shooting percentage at BYU was hard to watch. Ouch. Remember that AJ thinks we may have one of the better teams to suit up for the Jackrabbits. That should give us some patience.

[jackdaniel]

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The thing that worried me after watching the BYU game was that the Jacks had a number of players that had trouble creating their own shots. Some of that was because of the big gal inside , but there were a number of perimeter players who had jump shots swatted back in their face by people that were their own size. It might just be a factor of needing to be more efficient in running the offense and setting better screens to open up shots , but there was definitely a difference in athleticism for both inside and perimeter players in that game.

I think they were expecting a Bemidji State reaction and got a BYU reaction instead,we have to re-train our mindset on that.Agree,they most certainly looked a little unsure as the defecit got larger and the game progressed.When a teams used to playing a certain way,and all of a sudden its taken away,its becomes hard to score and the decision making is altered and uncertainty takes hold...credit BYU for that,its a valuable lesson for our team to realize they have to learn to adjust to circumstances that change from game to game,...they let BYU dictate the game.Just my own opinion,but Eide had that mental toughness to find a way to score when the going got tough.I think our current players seem to want to be that mentally tough player,but its just not there yet.This quality of mental toughness,gets developed into players who play in tough conferences,not so much in the Summit.It really puts us at a disadvantage when we play these teams...we can't adapt well to having our typical game being turned upside down.

Against BYU,the toughness started (for their team) in small ways at first,tying up our rebounders,scrambling after loose balls,but all these things accumulated throughout the game and it was ever so slightly shifting in their favor.As the game progressed and looked better for them,they gained the confidence to really take it over.I thought the first 10 min of the game,despite our missed opportunity's,i thought we looked as good or better than they did....funny how perception changes as the score becomes more lopsided.After this OOC schedule,we'll be plenty toughened up I'd say.Maybe even a little faster reacting,a little more assertive,a little faster making decisions,a little quicker running the offense,a little smoother and polished team.

[jackdaniel]

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The situation of forcing errors against taller posts was a problem against South Carolina in the tournament as well. We had many turnovers and blocked shots in that game as well. We might need to make some tweaks when encountering these taller athletic women. There should be enough talent to find some points without trying to force inside action. However our horrible shooting percentage at BYU was hard to watch. Ouch. Remember that AJ thinks we may have one of the better teams to suit up for the Jackrabbits. That should give us some patience.

Again,I don't think its a matter of athleticism as much as it is mental toughness a SC aquires during their tough game ,every game ,grind of their conference season.They learn that to win, they have to scratch,claw,out work, whatever it is,to win a game in their conference,then here we come,used to everything comming easily and ill prepared for teams used to slugging it out every game.We start strong,but end up succumbing to the more battle tested team.We will likely have to do with 6'2",6'3" post players(most BCS level forwards) until we get a local girl that's taller and athletic who wants to stay close to home,whenever that will be.

[2002jack]

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The loss to BYU was certainly ugly, but it should be noted that BYU is now 5-0, with wins over UNLV, Cal-State Northridge, Boston College, and Washington State so it seems like they are pretty tough.