Bracketology

[thebluehatman]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/bracketology
I have a feeling this link could become very useful in trying to figure things out for the women's side of things.

Along with this for trying to figure out who we might be playing
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/standings

Not sure how they divide up the regions but here's my guess of who we could be playing:
Missouri Valley
Illinois State 11-5 18-9
Evansville 10-7 18-10
Northern Iowa 10-7 16-12
Horizon League
Illinois (Chi.) 11-3 18-9
Big Ten
Wisconsin 7-9 18-11
Minnesota 7-9 15-14
Mid-Con
Oral Roberts 8-6 19-10

Just thoughts. The criteria is you have to have a .500 or better team, be willing to participate, or be the top team in your conference not to make the tourney.

[rabidrabbit]

Re: Bracketology

Here's the WNIT criteria.

http://www.womensnit.com/

From that article:

The selection of the 48 teams for the Postseason WNIT will be according to the following:
1. Thirty-one (31) spots will be filled with one team per conference. That team will be the highest-finishing team in the conference’s regular-season standings, that does not advance to the NCAA Tournament. As in the past, the teams’ record must be at or above .500.
For example, if the second-place team during the regular season does not win its conference tournament, and the top-seeded team does (and earns the NCAA berth), then the second-place team automatically will be invited to the WNIT.
If the top-seeded team after the regular season does not win its conference tournament and is not invited to the NCAA Tournament, then it will have a guaranteed spot in the WNIT.
No matter which team from a conference wins its conference tournament, the WNIT will take the next best team available. That team is determined by conference tournament seeding based on regular-season standings.
2. The remaining seventeen (17) berths will be filled by the top teams available based on the selection criteria used in the past.

The Lady Jacks are part of that 17 berths.

Using the Bracktology (for at-large/multi-bid conferences) + the seedings (assume the #1 conference team loses in the conference final) here's the likely 48. (Using Sagarin's because of conference listing)

Jacks are rated 28. All possible WNIT PARTICIPANTS WITH 40 OR BETTER HIGHLIGHTED

American East - 71 Hartford or 122 Stoney Brook
Atl 10 - 50 Xavier or 84 UNC-Charlotte
ACC - 68 VA, 77 VA tech
A-Sun 128 Belmont or 190 ETSU
Big 12 42 Missouri, 53 TxTech, 60 K St.
Big East 64 DePaul or 85 Seton Hall
Big Sky 32 Montana or95 No AZ
Big South 120 Liberty or 177 High POINT
Big 10 45 Ill, 55 Wis, 57 IN 58 MN 63 PA St.
Big West 102 UC-Riverside or 124 UCSB
Colonial 37 Old Dominion, JMU or Del, 69 Hofstra
C-USA 70 Tulane or 90 UTEP, 93 Rice, 94 SMU
Horizon 46 UW-GB or 150 Ill-Chi.
Ivy 176 Harvard or 185 Dartmouth
Metro 75 Marist or 170 Loyola (MD)
Mid Am 19 Bowling Green or 56 Ball St.
MidCon 125 Oakland or 149 Oral Roberts
MEAC 89 Coppin St. 219 Del St
MoVal 86 Il St, or 88 SIU, 92 In St.
Mt West 44 NM, 54 TCU, 61 BYU, 62 Wyo, 79 Utah
NEC 123 Robert Morris or 147 Sacred Heart
OVC 139 Murray St or 144 SE MO
Pac10 29 Washington 49 USC, 67 OR
Patriot 133 Army or 146 Bucknell
SEC 43 UK, 48 SC, 59 ARK, 73 MS St.
Southern 77 UTC, 81 Davison, or 98 WCU
SLC 78 UT Arl or 143 SFA
SWAC 233 Jackson St or 251 Prairie View
Sunbelt 51 WKU, 65 ULL, 82 ARK St., 87 AR-LR, 96 Denver
WCC 66 Gonzaga or 91 Loyola-Marymount or 99 USDiego
WAC 83 Boise St. or 97 LA Tech

Every hilited team is likely to be dancing. But if not, SDSU still no worse than #5 overall seed. Highly likely to be the highest seed in the WNIT. ;D

Likely at Large
ACC -1
Big 12 - 2
Ind - 1 (SDSU )
Big 10 - 3 or 4 (Penn St. needs a winning record)
Colonial - 1
C-USA - 0 or 1
Mt West - 2-3
SEC 2-3
Sunbelt 1-4

[HoosierRabbit]

Re: Bracketology

i'm not sure UNL from the big 12 may not be a wnit participant - currently 6 teams are 20+ wins and i don't think 6 teams will make it to the NCAA

[thebluehatman]

Re: Bracketology

i'm not sure UNL from the big 12 may not be a wnit participant - currently 6 teams are 20+ wins and i don't think 6 teams will make it to the NCAA

I would have to disagree latest bracketology shows them in...They would have to pull off a choke bigger than what the Vikings do on a yearly basis not to get in.

[NightHawk78]

Re: Bracketology

UNL has been in the Top 25 for a good part of the season.......

[rabidrabbit]

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BHM says - Wisconsin has a better chance than the Gophers of a WNIT bid. Just because they are big 10 does not give the gophers an automatic pass to the WNIT.

RR comments - yes WIS is more likely to be in than MN. But MN still "fits" as part of the 17 best RPI teams NOT in NCAA's.

Ark St. appears to be the only team that Jacks lost to that may not get a bid to either tourney. They will be a bubble team, about where Jacks were last year.

[HoosierRabbit]

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[quote author=HoosierRabbit link=1172761478/0#2 date=1172873874]i'm not sure UNL from the big 12 may not be a wnit participant - currently 6 teams are 20+ wins and i don't think 6 teams will make it to the NCAA

I would have to disagree latest bracketology shows them in...They would have to pull off a choke bigger than what the Vikings do on a yearly basis not to get in.

[/quote]
losing 4 of their last 5 makes me think of the Vikingettes - but afterall  8-)i am a Bears fan

they will need to make a good showing in their tourney (semi-finals minimum) to have a sniff at the NCAA - just my opinion

[thebluehatman]

Re: Bracketology

[quote author=thebluehatman link=1172761478/0#3 date=1172877420][quote author=HoosierRabbit link=1172761478/0#2 date=1172873874]i'm not sure UNL from the big 12 may not be a wnit participant - currently 6 teams are 20+ wins and i don't think 6 teams will make it to the NCAA

I would have to disagree latest bracketology shows them in...They would have to pull off a choke bigger than what the Vikings do on a yearly basis not to get in.

[/quote]
losing 4 of their last 5 makes me think of the Vikingettes - but afterall  8-)i am a Bears fan

they will need to make a good showing in their tourney (semi-finals minimum) to have a sniff at the NCAA - just my opinion[/quote]
Being a Browns fan I don't have to worry about them choking their season is usually done around week 4 or 5.

[filbert]

Re: Bracketology

Here we go, WNIT Bracketology, Version 1.0.

I seeded the NCAA tournament first, then went through and picked out the WNIT teams, based on the highest non-NCAA teams in each conference with a .500 or better record, then filled it out with the remaning teams, as listed on the Vaporia ranking comparison (http://www.vaporia.com/sports/wcpage.html)

The bracket shown are by strict seed-by-rankings. I made no effort to adjust the brackets to reduce travel.

Four brackets, 12 teams each:
Bracket #1 (plays #4 winner in semifinals)
South Dakota State (#1 overall seed in the tournament), first round bye, hosts winner of William & Mary at Northern Illinois
USC, first round bye, hosts winner of Murray State at Charlotte
TCU, first round bye, hosts winner of Loyola-MD at Virginia Tech
Virginia, first round bye, hosts winner of Prairie View A&M at DePaul


Bracket #2 (plays #3 bracket in semifinals)
New Mexico, first round bye, hosts winner of UCSB at Louisiana Tech
Kentucky, first round bye, hosts winner of Stephen F. Austin at Illinois State
Indiana, first round bye, hosts winner of High Point at Oregon
Minnesota, first round bye, hosts winner of Delaware State at Kansas State


Bracket #3
Missouri, first round bye, hosts winner of Stony Brook at San Diego
Texas Tech, first round bye, hosts winner of Bucknell at Arkansas State
South Carolina, first round bye, hosts winner of Valparaiso at Seton Hall
Wyoming, first round bye, hosts winner of Harvard at Wisconsin


Bracket #4
South Florida, first round bye, hosts winner of Northern Arizona at UTEP
Hofstra, first round bye, hosts winner of Long Island at Davidson
Ball State, first round bye, hosts winner of Illinois-Chicago at Utah
Louisiana-Lafayette, first round bye, hosts winner of East Tennessee St. at Arkansas.


We shall see, but right now, according to most ratings, we should be the #1 overall seed in the WNIT. I'm reasonably sure we'll get a first-round bye (which, I believe, means we'll host at least second-round game).

[HoosierRabbit]

Re: Bracketology

someome indicated that NJIT didn't play enough DI games, thus their games aren't being considered like the 2 dII games we played

can anyone verify this ?

[thebluehatman]

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[quote author=jacks1 link=1172854304/15#21 date=1172937179]I've noticed that the Greenfield RPI ratings (which I believe is used by the WNIT committee) do not recognize NJIT as a D-I team. Thus our wins versus them and our two D-II wins won't count. 19 wins is the best we can do using the Greenfield system.

Rank Prev Rank Name Conf W-L Road Neut Home Non-Div I
45 47 South Dakota St. Division I Independents 21-5 8-3 1- 1 10-1 2-0

http://web1.ncaa.org/app_data/weekly...07WBBrpi1.html
According to the official RPI used for the NCAA NJIT's games do count.[/quote]
That's what I have.

[thebluehatman]

Re: Bracketology

Well
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncw/news/s...7/confsked#ovc

CONFERENCE USA
At Donald W. Reynolds Center
Tulsa, Okla.
First Round
Thursday, March 1
Game 1 - (9) Houston 71, (8) Marshall 58
Game 2 - (5) UTEP 84, (12) Memphis 75
Game 3 - (10) Tulsa 73, (7) Southern Mississippi 64
Game 4 - (6) SMU 79, (11) UCF 58
Quarterfinals
Friday, March 2
Game 5 - (1) Tulane 62, (9) Houston 55
Game 6 - (4) Rice 56, (5) UTEP 46
Game 7 - (2) UAB 67, (10) Tulsa 65
Game 8 - (3) East Carolina 76, (6) SMU 62
Semifinals
Saturday, March 3
Game 9 - (4) Rice 64, (1) Tulane 52
Game 10 - (3) East Carolina 85, (2) UAB 81
Championship
Sunday, March 4
(3) East Carolina vs. (4) Rice, 5:30 p.m. (ESPN2)

Conference USA mixed up the tournament picture as neither teams were predicted to make the big dance

NORTHEAST
At campus of higher seed
Quarterfinals
Saturday, March 3
Game 1 - (8) St. Francis (NY) 61, (1) Long Island 51
Game 2 - (2) Robert Morris 69, (7) Fairleigh Dickinson 55
Game 3 - (3) Sacred Heart 70, (6) Mount St. Mary's 67
Game 4 - (5) Monmouth 53, (4) Quinnipiac 58
Semifinals
Tuesday, March 6
Game 5 - (8) St. Francis at (2) Robert Morris, 7 p.m.
Game 6 - (5) Monmouth at (3) Sacred Heart, 7 p.m.
Championship
Saturday, March 10
Lower-seeded team at higher-seeded team, 3 p.m.

Also, the Northeast has tossed up the bracket.

PATRIOT LEAGUE
At Alumni Hall
Annapolis, Md. Quarterfinals
Saturday, March 3
Game 1 - (8) Colgate 69, (1) Bucknell 62
Game 2 - (4) American 68, (5) Navy 55
Game 3 - (7) Lehigh 57, (2) Army 53
Game 4 - (3) Holy Cross 64, (6) Lafayette 49
Semifinals
Sunday, March 4
(8) Colgate vs. (4) American, 1 p.m.
(3) Holy Cross vs. (7) Lehigh, 3:30 p.m.
At highest remaining seed
Championship
Wednesday, March 7
Semifinal winners, 6 p.m. (ESPNU)

Them Patriot leaguers have also made the picture a little more confusing.

The picture is becoming a little more clear as we come full scale to Championship week.

[1bunnies]

Re: Bracketology

When more tops seeds get dumped in conference tourneys, the more difficult it will be for SDSU. I hope we rate high enough that wwe are probably already in, but nothing is a given.

[thebluehatman]

Re: Bracketology

ATLANTIC 10
At Cintas Center
Cincinnati
First Round
Friday, March 2
Game 1 - (9) Dayton 57, (8) La Salle 43
Game 2 - (5) Saint Joseph's 68, (12) Rhode Island 52
Game 3 - (10) St. Bonaventure 63, (7) Massachusetts, 60
Game 4 - (11) Saint Louis 69, (6) Richmond 61
Quarterfinals
Saturday, March 3
Game 5 - (1) George Washington 61, (9) Dayton 45
Game 6 - (5) Saint Joseph's 76, (4) Charlotte 64
Game 7 - (2) Temple 84, (10) St. Bonaventure 60
Game 8 - (3) Xavier 64, (11) St. Louis 63
Semifinals
Sunday, March 4
Game 9 - (5) Saint Joseph's 57, (1) George Washington 55
Game 10 - (3) Xavier 54, (2) Temple 53
Championship
Monday, March 5
(5) St. Joseph's vs. (3) Xavier, 5 p.m. (ESPN2)

Saint Joseph's is calling for attention now.

Xavier already had/has a spot for them in the tourney. The fun is just beginning.

[filbert]

Re: Bracketology

The difference between this year and last year is that SDSU will almost certainly be at the top of the list of teams ranked by RPI available to the WNIT.

Last year we were on the bubble at the bottom, where conference tournament upsets and politics could both bump us out of the WNIT. I don't think that any upsets in the conference tournaments will significantly affect where SDSU is seeded in the WNIT. If we're not a first-round bye team there probably needs to be a Congressional investigation.