Southern Utah gdt

[buschlight]

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Actually, the game was OK, but I'm going to have to think about a few really creative ways of calling out the students. Their turnout did not even rise to the level of pathetic tonight.

Beneath pathetic. What would that be? Words fail me.

Actually, they don't, but if I said what I really think, I'd have to ban myself.

SDSU Students, YOU EMBARASS ME as an SDSU alum. Where the hell were you tonight?

Yeah, I am not going to lie there wasn't alot of students there, but the turnout usually isn't much better on a weekday. I went with three other friends and we left early to play intramurals. Maybe everyone started the weekend early tonight and are at the bars...

[sfjacksfan99]

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First of all, anyone who drove more than 20 miles to that game gets rep points from me. I-29 was nothing less than horrible on the way home anywhere north of Baltic exit. Downright scary for awhile. The roads were just fine to B-Town. It froze hard on the interstate during the game. I'm trying to wind down from that white-knuckle drive.

Second of all, students who were not there, no excuse whatsoever. This is the best damn men's team you've seen since you started college by far. And you weren't at the bar either. We went to Skinners for one after the game and there was rock star parking all over downtown and about 8 people in every bar. Where the hell are you? The guys could have used a lift in the first half because that was the most bland 3 point lead I've seen in a long time.

I've been hollering for Ga. Callahan to show up for awhile now. Thank you. You and Kai and a little Clint were pretty much everything tonight. Wolters took a step back for a game for some reason and his FT shooting has been less than normal lately too. Palarca was a nice little spark plug in that first run in the second half except for his foul on the 4 point play.

The refs were pretty questionable tonight. Nothing that would have changed the outcome, but wow. The offensive foul call on Engen was the worst flop I've ever seen and then he gets called for #4 about 5 seconds after that on the defensive end, that was probably an ok call. But then #44, their 7'9" guy fouls out shortly after that and looks directly at the ref and says "that's effing b.s." and then walks toward the bench and turns around again and calls him out and he still doesn't "T" him up. No balls at all.

How they scored 48 points or whatever it was in the second half, I don't know, because it all seemed pretty bland to me. But a win is a win. Just wish IPFW would have beat ORU. But the NDSU loss gives the SF Sports Authority a sigh of relief to keep them out of the 5 seed for now.

From what I recall of the previous UMKC game, the Jacks should put their most favorable lineup out there for a lot of the game Saturday for another W. That's the shorter lineup which matches up against the 'Roos. Just have to make sure to keep their couple of shooters at bay and rebound well.

I have to say I really like the guys on this team outside of the #5 position right now and think there are very good things to come if they can continue to rebound well and keep Clint and Garrett shooting well.

[jacks1]

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First of all, anyone who drove more than 20 miles to that game gets rep points from me. I-29 was nothing less than horrible on the way home anywhere north of Baltic exit.

Rep me, Rep me!!! I drove 38 miles from/to Dell Rapids ....and yes, on the way home it sucked a$$.

[mango4]

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Second of all, students who were not there, no excuse whatsoever. This is the best damn men's team you've seen since you started college by far. And you weren't at the bar either. We went to Skinners for one after the game and there was rock star parking all over downtown and about 8 people in every bar. Where the hell are you? The guys could have used a lift in the first half because that was the most bland 3 point lead I've seen in a long time.

I'm pretty sure having to work is an excuse. There are reasons students aren't there. I've been a critic of the lack of students at games before but I do have to work most nights there are games (don't cover SDSU so I'm stuck covering high school sports when the Jacks are at home) and haven't been able to get to as many games as I would like. But there are reasons that students aren't there, for some people it's not a huge priority or it conflicts with other things they have going on.

[SidelineObserver]

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The guys looked good in warmups, I got there midway through or so. Dale had a couple of nice dunks during that time, so I knew the guys were in for a good night.
I saw a couple of the dunks on this pregame video. http://vidly.com/bKz0

Watching the game, the first half seemed like last season all over again. But I think the defensive adjustments at halftime were solid. I think Southern Utah shot just 30 percent in the half while turning it over quite a few times?

I'm sold that Engen should see more playing time, it's taken awhile to come around. Tonight he was solid out there getting his lankyness (is that a word) in the way of passes and shots.

I think the future is bright and the Summit League tournament will bring some memorable moments for fans!
Was disappointed in the student section too, but its understandable. Seems like they've been on a steady decline over the past year or two.

[TeaJackrabbit]

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I was set to go to the game....until the weather started getting somewhat "yucky" late. I have lived here most of my life and the weather wasn't THAT bad, but bad enough. Unfortunate b/c I think weather has really hurt attendance this year. Oh well, I think starting next year ppl will be willing to make more of an effort to get to the games...........plus we can't have another winter this bad (I believe KELO said we saw significant snowfall over 20 days in December) can we?

We're getting there.......

[JimmyJack]

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Winning is great, but it will take some time for the buzz to return on campus regarding the men's program. I'm disappointed in student turnout for last night's game, but students have shown up nicely for several of the weekend games and I expect a nice crowd Saturday.

[SoDakJack]

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Winning is great, but it will take some time for the buzz to return on campus regarding the men's program. I'm disappointed in student turnout for last night's game, but students have shown up nicely for several of the weekend games and I expect a nice crowd Saturday.

The student turnout tonight is the reason that they only set aside 1000 tickets originally for the USD game. If they want to complain about not getting enough tickets, then they need to show up to all games.

[Nidaros]

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The student turnout tonight is the reason that they only set aside 1000 tickets originally for the USD game. If they want to complain about not getting enough tickets, then they need to show up to all games.

I would not be shocked if we have low student turnout for USD game. The students who contribute to this board have given their reasons for not attending and I accept them. Life looks probably a great deal more desperate than what it did to me in 1965, the year I got my degree. I was kind of pissed because I had to deal with a military obligation instead of heading for a pretty job market. The military obligation turned out okay, since it got me 4 years of credited federal service in my civilain government job, it got me two house loans, it got me veterans perferencee for govt job. So I am no longer pissed, plus I got to experience life in Japan and Guam. Guam is good and changed very much since I was there.

Now the job market is not very cheerful, and maybe only those heading towards the health care market have some sort of reason about being optmistic about finding a job. Plus they no doubt are highly leveraged with student loans. So I am glad I am 68 and not 20 or 28. The economic outlook is not good in the short term, but maybe it should not stop them from attending a prepaid basketball game, I think Students got to do what they got to do.

There are more social options in Brookings than there were 50 years ago, so that in my opinion is the biggest factor the Athletic department has to deal with if you want to increase student attendence. Again 50 years ago, many students came to games, because it was the only game in town and that has many meanings. If you look in some of the photo archieves many male students came to the Saturday night bb games wearing white shirts, ties and business suites, and they went down town and soak up suds afterwards or went to student dances hoping to hook up with the ladies. The guys were 6 to 1 to the gals so the ladies had some choices, but yet some I learn later remained in the dorms dateless. hmm

The bottom line is that despite a vast improvement in the mens bb program, in terms of personnel and wins, the product is still not the buzz on campus and maybe that might explain the low turnout. Enough of reflection I must be driving some of you crazy.

[SoDakJack]

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I would not be shocked if we have low student turnout for USD game. The students who contribute to this board have given their reasons for not attending and I accept them. Life looks probably a great deal more desperate than what it did to me in 1965, the year I got my degree. I was kind of pissed because I had to deal with a military obligation instead of heading for a pretty job market. The military obligation turned out okay, since it got me 4 years of credited federal service in my civilain government job, it got me two house loans, it got me veterans perferencee for govt job. So I am no longer pissed, plus I got to experience life in Japan and Guam. Guam is good and changed very much since I was there.

Now the job market is not very cheerful, and maybe only those heading towards the health care market have some sort of reason about being optmistic about finding a job. Plus they no doubt are highly leveraged with student loans. So I am glad I am 68 and not 20 or 28. The economic outlook is not good in the short term, but maybe it should not stop them from attending a prepaid basketball game, I think Students got to do what they got to do.

There are more social options in Brookings than there were 50 years ago, so that in my opinion is the biggest factor the Athletic department has to deal with if you want to increase student attendence. Again 50 years ago, many students came to games, because it was the only game in town and that has many meanings. If you look in some of the photo archieves many male students came to the Saturday night bb games wearing white shirts, ties and business suites, and they went down town and soak up suds afterwards or went to student dances hoping to hook up with the ladies. The guys were 6 to 1 to the gals so the ladies had some choices, but yet some I learn later remained in the dorms dateless. hmm

The bottom line is that despite a vast improvement in the mens bb program, in terms of personnel and win, the product is still not the buzz on campus and maybe that might explain the low turnout. Enough of reflection I must be driving some of you crazy.

Why would you drive me crazy when I can walk there?

All I am saying is that we heard the "outrage" that was coming from the students about not getting an unlimited supply of tickets to basketball. It seems to me that even winning may not help. Look at the turnout that the students have given our WBB program after all their success.

I will concede that there are alot of other social options in Brookings, but I know for a fact that many of those options don't really get going until after 9pm.

I just get fed up with the whole, "the school doesn't respect the students" vibe. I was as SDSU when the same issues came up when the seating was rearranged. I will admit that I was in the "they are taking our seats" camp until I consistantly say voids in the student section.

When the weather is bad, it is the student's responsiblity to get out to the game to support the Frost atmosphere.

Don't even get me started on how "boring" the crowd was last night...

[22jack]

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I don't know, there is over 9,000 full time students.... there is what around 2,000 students that live on campus. Yes there is a few hundred of them who have an 8:00 am lab tomorrow, and a few hundred who may be in class during or around the time of the game but its not like its Midterm week or final week, its not like you guys are playing Central Louisiana Southern Bible Christian University or anything you guys are playing a conference foe. Your team isn't horrible, heck they have a good chance of finishing top 3 in the league. Now I understand I don't go to SDSU, but if I did I would go to every basketball game....

Now maybe it has to do with promotion of the event or conflicting events..... What bothers me worse and I don't know if its true at SDSU but it seems that the students who don't show up to those games expect to be in the front row when they play the NDSU's and USD's

Ther are over 9000 students that can go to games and over 3000 that live on campus. When only 200-300 show up, there is no excuse. Students have no right to complain if the student section was ever moved to the ends under the baskets like a lot of big schools or any other changes that would effect students like some have mentioned on here before. Yes there are some that can not make it because of class or whatever but 200-300, weak.

[MikeHenriksen]

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Student attendance will come back. The kids that are in school now had no reason to be fired up about SDSU basketball for the last 4 years, which is the time they were in high school. For a lot of you, SDSU men's basketball might have been one of the reasons you went there in the first place! I think now that the program has turned the corner the current high school students will again look forward to the chance to be able to go to games on a regular basis once they get on campus. Grab the freshmen each year and it will build back. Changing the established habits of the current students is hard to do.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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Yeah, I am not going to lie there wasn't alot of students there, but the turnout usually isn't much better on a weekday. I went with three other friends and we left early to play intramurals. Maybe everyone started the weekend early tonight and are at the bars...

Not meant as a slam on those who attended intramurals last night, but am I the only one surprised to learn they have intramurals on Thursday nights?

Maybe its always been that way, but if it was basketball intramurals, that's probably about 200 people that should be our student target audience...

[JackrabbitGuy]

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Student attendance will come back. The kids that are in school now had no reason to be fired up about SDSU basketball for the last 4 years, which is the time they were in high school. For a lot of you, SDSU men's basketball might have been one of the reasons you went there in the first place! I think now that the program has turned the corner the current high school students will again look forward to the chance to be able to go to games on a regular basis once they get on campus. Grab the freshmen each year and it will build back. Changing the established habits of the current students is hard to do.

Good point Mike. I lived at Frost Arena was I was a student in Brookings, so I can't imagine not going to most games. But if things were different then and we didn't have the on court success it might have been different for me too.

Winning will cure attendance, but I agree it may take a sustained period of success to really have a noticable impact.

[Nidaros]

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Why would you drive me crazy when I can walk there?

All I am saying is that we heard the "outrage" that was coming from the students about not getting an unlimited supply of tickets to basketball. It seems to me that even winning may not help. Look at the turnout that the students have given our WBB program after all their success.

I will concede that there are alot of other social options in Brookings, but I know for a fact that many of those options don't really get going until after 9pm.

I just get fed up with the whole, "the school doesn't respect the students" vibe. I was as SDSU when the same issues came up when the seating was rearranged. I will admit that I was in the "they are taking our seats" camp until I consistantly say voids in the student section.

When the weather is bad, it is the student's responsiblity to get out to the game to support the Frost atmosphere.

Don't even get me started on how "boring" the crowd was last night...

Huhhhhh, my reference to crazy had to do with my sharing of reflections from my student days. People thought back then that they were just a number and the University did not care about them. The highest enrollment during my student years was 4200, so yes I can see where that helpless and faceless regard for individual students must have doubled in fifty years along with enrollement. Respect, in any large organization requires hard work and doing things that garner recognition, such as scholastic honor rolls, being in class 100 per cent and participating. I never bought into this self pity crap and will never do so.

A person can be involved about as much as he wants to be. If staying way is your thing, then dont bring up the schools lack of respect. They have better things to do than to kiss someone rear daily.