Oakland Golden Grizzlies

[bub94]

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I have been on this forum from the beginning and this had to be one of the most lame posts I can recall and that is saying a lot with Lakes and his aliases. Guess we need to get College Game Day to Brookings so kids start showing up. Give me a break!

I guess I almost (and I do say almost) support what he said (somewhat, not exactly what he said). I think some students go to the games just to say they were there. Most students are fans and are there to support the team. But we had a hen's nest behind us last night. These students were there only to chat with each other. They showed up with only 6 minutes left in the game. Didn't stand up one time, just sat back, clucking, and laying eggs. I hope they are the students who got in line for USD tickets just to sit in the student section and have a gab session and not pay attention to the game. Friend I went with was right in front of them and he said his ears were ringing because of the clucking.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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Anybody know why Rader didn't play much in the second half? It seemed like we mad our run in the first while he was in the game drawing Benson out to the perimeter? Or am I remembering things differently than they actually happened?

Also, why no Tony Feigen on Saturday? Match up problems? He seems like another big that could hit the outside shot enough to draw a big man out of the middle?

[bub94]

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Anybody know why Rader didn't play much in the second half? It seemed like we mad our run in the first while he was in the game drawing Benson out to the perimeter? Or am I remembering things differently than they actually happened?

Also, why no Tony Feigen on Saturday? Match up problems? He seems like another big that could hit the outside shot enough to draw a big man out of the middle?

I questioned why we didn't see Tony too. As for Rader, he played only to give AC a breather while Mark had 2 fouls and after AC picked up his second.

[Nidaros]

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I questioned why we didn't see Tony too. As for Rader, he played only to give AC a breather while Mark had 2 fouls and after AC picked up his second.

I too wonder about absence of Tony. Could he be still ill or maybe coach thought he could be learning more from the bench than actually playing. I would love to see a larger rotation at 4 and 5 positions that would include all those guys who have some height. We are going to need it down the stretch.

[zooropa]

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I too wonder about absence of Tony. Could he be still ill or maybe coach thought he could be learning more from the bench than actually playing. I would love to see a larger rotation at 4 and 5 positions that would include all those guys who have some height. We are going to need it down the stretch.

I don't think he's 100%. In fact, I don't even think he had his game jersey on Sat. night.

It would've been nice to have another body to put on Benson.

My recollection is that SDSU made that run with Engen in the game, and that when Rader was in the Grizz closed the gap a bit.

As I recall, SDSU had a 13 point lead, which got whittled down to either 5 or 7, and then built back up to eleven, before being whittled down to 5 at the half.

And Nagy was (IMO) 100% right that the 4 minutes at the end of the first half were what lost the game. Oakland didn't have enough gas to outscore the Jacks by 13 in the second half--they barely had enough to outscore the Jacks by 8.

SDSU protects that lead before the half, and they win the game.

[GBGBGJ]

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I have been on this forum from the beginning and this had to be one of the most lame posts I can recall and that is saying a lot with Lakes and his aliases. Guess we need to get College Game Day to Brookings so kids start showing up. Give me a break! And by the way' I thought the energy created by the students and the entire crowd was awesome last night!

Well, JackGuyII, you pretty much helped me with the point I was trying to make. Against Oakland, the crowd was into it because we were playing for a little something more than usual. My point was that the reason bigger programs have better student support is because there is more excitement around the program. And if you dont think that even big programs fans get a little crazier and the ticket is a little hotter to get when GameDay is there, you are delusional and need to go to a venue when GameDay is actually there. I've done it, and the game is just a little different.

[SoDakJack]

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Well, JackGuyII, you pretty much helped me with the point I was trying to make. Against Oakland, the crowd was into it because we were playing for a little something more than usual. My point was that the reason bigger programs have better student support is because there is more excitement around the program. And if you dont think that even big programs fans get a little crazier and the ticket is a little hotter to get when GameDay is there, you are delusional and need to go to a venue when GameDay is actually there. I've done it, and the game is just a little different.

If some students need a big event to go to a game, then IMO we really don't want them there anyway. Give me smaller, more vocal group of students anyday of the week. What some of these "fans" don't realize is that a game against Centenary or Southern Utah means just as much in the standings as Oakland or NDSU.

BTW...if it ever got to the point of a Gameday coming to Brookings, the "fairweather, 'big game'" fans wouldn't have a prayer of getting tickets.

[SUPERBUNNY]

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If some students need a big event to go to a game, then IMO we really don't want them there anyway. Give me smaller, more vocal group of students anyday of the week. What some of these "fans" don't realize is that a game against Centenary or Southern Utah means just as much in the standings as Oakland or NDSU.

BTW...if it ever got to the point of a Gameday coming to Brookings, the "fairweather, 'big game'" fans wouldn't have a prayer of getting tickets.

I guess I don't get the point of your post.

What fan doesn't look at a schedule and cirlce the big games? When I looked at the MBB schedule I wanted to know when NDSU, Oakland, and ORU were in Frost Arena. Sure the game counts the same in the win column but if you want to get to the top you have to beat the best teams in the conference.

Vikings fans are probably a little more "Jacked Up" for the Packers game than the Lions game. Same thing.

You are somewhat correct about the "fairweather" fan statement. If the games are sold out it limits people from cherry-picking games. Unfortunately that is a long ways out and until then the best thing that can happen is for the team to improve and more people will come to the game.

GB, GB, GJ!

SUPERBUNNY

[filbert]

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If some students need a big event to go to a game, then IMO we really don't want them there anyway. Give me smaller, more vocal group of students anyday of the week. What some of these "fans" don't realize is that a game against Centenary or Southern Utah means just as much in the standings as Oakland or NDSU.

BTW...if it ever got to the point of a Gameday coming to Brookings, the "fairweather, 'big game'" fans wouldn't have a prayer of getting tickets.

The idea is--or should be--to make it worth students' while to come to the games, and to enjoy the experience once they get there--enough so that they want to come back. Part of that--a big part--is putting entertaining, competitive teams on the court.

Now it's true that I join in the occasional calling-out of fellow fans for perceived lack of . . . well . . . ferocity. But even that is a learning process, IMHO. Those of us who remember what "the old days" were like (and those of us who see an echo of those old days when we attend games in Allen Fieldhouse and other "name" venues") need to keep the fires alive, but I think it's a bad strategy to chase people away because they don't cheer as much or as loudly as some of us might like.

On the other hand, taking the positive road:

There's absolutely nothing wrong with the Frost Arena atmosphere that three or four thousand into-the-game, active, vocal SDSU students wouldn't totally, completely cure--and make the place an absolute snakepit for any opponent unlucky enough to venture into it--(and cause some of the old-timers in the blue seats on the opposite side to whine and complain about how horribly loud the place is--why it's gotten so loud that it's just not fair!) THAT'S the word that needs to go out on campus.

You guys (and gals) on campus in Brookings see it on TV in Lawrence, in Durham, in other basketball "meccas," . . . you can be in--you can make that exact same atmosphere you see at the "big-time" arenas, any time you want to--just come en masse to Frost Arena for a Jackrabbit basketball game and make it happen. Both the men and the women really are good enough this year to run anybody in the conference completely out of the building--IF they get enough backing from the students.

The students are where the energy has to come from--we old-timers are too old-timery to bring it for all 40 game-minutes any more! (Speaking only for myself, of course!)

Don't wait for the big event, SDSU students . . . MAKE the big event!

Do it often enough and ESPN will eventually show up with their cameras---and I'm serious about that!

[jackmd]

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Do it often enough and ESPN will eventually show up with their cameras---and I'm serious about that!

Agree with Filbert and will add that they were there last year and people showed up when there wasn't even a game.

Many of us remember Frost when it was rocking during the hey day of the NCC and for DII playoff games. More recently, it has been pretty loud during the women's WNIT games. It won't ever be like it was, students section right on the court, players on the opposite side, little security and plenty of cowbells. However, it can and will be a lot louder when the student by into this team wholeheartedly. Right now, the ones that do show up are occasionally vocal but could be more so. I sit over on the reserved side and enthusiasm is best described as dreadful at most games.

I keep wanting to hear thousands of Jackrabbit fans simultaneously chanting "Lets Go Rabbits" clap-clap-clap,clap,clap.......... The day will come again, I know it will.

[SoDakJack]

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I agree wholeheartedly. I hope that I didn't come across as being an elitest when it came to the fans, I just have difficulties with the fans that only want to come to the "big games." That, of course, excludes the folks that have to travel long distances to come.

My main frustration is with the people that have easy access to Frost and the SDSU campus (local season ticket holders/SDSU students). If people really want to have an experience similar to what happens in the larger venues, then they need to come out to the game no matter if it is Oakland, Gonzaga, or Southwest Minnesota State.

Filbert nailed it on the head. We, as fans, have just as much to do with making things an event as the game itself. We should be able to make people want to come to games to be apart of something. That is what I hope SDSU basketball can become in the very near future.

[WestSideRabbit]

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I hope we've turned the corner on student attendance.

[Grizzled_Jack]

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FWIW-- The Vidly clip at court level sounded a lot louder than the WNAX feed. Not bad at all, and I'm sure, as loud as I remember from my youth with the exception of USD and Augie. I guess it's all about where the sound is being picked up.