Crowd Size

[JacksFroshFan]

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I think it was Bluehatman that said it before he left the board that certain players on this team do have a "I'm too cool for you" type attitude and had turned off a lot of students by that attitude. I'm against having athletes room with athletes, seperate athletic dorms, etc. It can only lead to problems and the developement of that I'm better than you attitude. Look at Michigan State's football program right now. Around 10 players suspended or kicked off the team because certain members of the football team have a grudge against a black fraternity.

The Jacks women's bb team hang together, yes, but they also go out of their way to be friendly, especially to kids. They involve themselves with the community in projects and are approachable.

The mens team as far as I can tell just from watching them and how they carry themselves have a certain don't come near me look. I don't know how they are in person because I only get to see them live once a year. As far as getting out in the community I never read on gojacks that they are doing anything to get involved with the community except for Nagy and the shoe thing.

Any way, who wants to see and cheer for someone if they are going to be snobs to you the rest of the week.

[JACKGUYII]

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I think it was Bluehatman that said it before he left the board that certain players on this team do have a "I'm too cool for you" type attitude and had turned off a lot of students by that attitude. I'm against having athletes room with athletes, seperate athletic dorms, etc. It can only lead to problems and the developement of that I'm better than you attitude. Look at Michigan State's football program right now. Around 10 players suspended or kicked off the team because certain members of the football team have a grudge against a black fraternity.

The Jacks women's bb team hang together, yes, but they also go out of their way to be friendly, especially to kids. They involve themselves with the community in projects and are approachable.

The mens team as far as I can tell just from watching them and how they carry themselves have a certain don't come near me look. I don't know how they are in person because I only get to see them live once a year. As far as getting out in the community I never read on gojacks that they are doing anything to get involved with the community except for Nagy and the shoe thing.

Any way, who wants to see and cheer for someone if they are going to be snobs to you the rest of the week.

I think the men get out and perform community service as well. I think it's been stated these kids can't be something there not in terms of emotion on the court etc. I know Nagy would like to see more emotion and yet I think he should look at himself in the mirror. When you watch him on the bench he certainly shows the negative reactions when he is upset with a player over a bad play, but it would be nice to see the same positive emotion towards a player when they do something positive. Players might feed off their coaches positive emotion.

[zooropa]

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Players might feed off their coaches positive emotion.

Yeah, well, you don't see much of that from AJ during a game either...

Nagy choked up on the radio talking about Kai last winter, after he got his thousandth point in that comeback game against Oakland. I think the players see that side of Nagy, but I don't think they expect to see that during the games.

As far as the players having the 'too cool' attitude, I've picked up that vibe as well---but that, IMO, is a stereotypical MBB attitude not confined to SDSU. If one might observe that baseball players tend to carry the lowest GPAs, on average, one might note that the MBB players tend to be a bit aloof.

But, to turn that around, the baseball schedule is BRUTAL, and most basketball players are at least a size and a half too big for the world around them--who knows how much of that standoffishness comes from being, well, big.

[jack power]

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I think it was Bluehatman that said it before he left the board that certain players on this team do have a "I'm too cool for you" type attitude and had turned off a lot of students by that attitude. I'm against having athletes room with athletes, seperate athletic dorms, etc. It can only lead to problems and the developement of that I'm better than you attitude. Look at Michigan State's football program right now. Around 10 players suspended or kicked off the team because certain members of the football team have a grudge against a black fraternity.

The Jacks women's bb team hang together, yes, but they also go out of their way to be friendly, especially to kids. They involve themselves with the community in projects and are approachable.

The mens team as far as I can tell just from watching them and how they carry themselves have a certain don't come near me look. I don't know how they are in person because I only get to see them live once a year. As far as getting out in the community I never read on gojacks that they are doing anything to get involved with the community except for Nagy and the shoe thing.

Any way, who wants to see and cheer for someone if they are going to be snobs to you the rest of the week.

You see them live once a year and you come up with this?

First of all, the i get a monthly news letter and there is usually an article about some school, church, or other event the team attends. I just received one 2 days ago and it had pictures and an short article about the men visiting a church in Brookings, serving dinner, washing dishes, and playing games with the kids. This is nothing new for a Nagy team.

Second, i've found the players very approachable, well spoken, humble young men. I'm THRILLED to have these kids represent SDSU.

Before you or any others here attack these guys character, i suggest you sit down and visit with them. You will find that the players are just as upset about some of their performances as you.

[SturgisJeff]

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You see them live once a year and you come up with this?

First of all, the i get a monthly news letter and there is usually an article about some school, church, or other event the team attends. I just received one 2 days ago and it had pictures and an short article about the men visiting a church in Brookings, serving dinner, washing dishes, and playing games with the kids. This is nothing new for a Nagy team.

Second, i've found the players very approachable, well spoken, humble young men. I'm THRILLED to have these kids represent SDSU.

Before you or any others here attack these guys character, i suggest you sit down and visit with them. You will find that the players are just as upset about some of their performances as you.

Then why dont they try and do something about it. Some of the players are or could be what you say. However I have heard from students who agree with what I wrote.

[SturgisJeff]

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Thanks for the negative reps whoever gave them to me. Just stating an opinion. Whatever. Guess cause I only see them once year I'm not entitled to opine.

[ViciousCircle]

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Then why dont they try and do something about it. Some of the players are or could be what you say. However I have heard from students who agree with what I wrote.

I would think you could talk to plenty of students that would say they are great people to do be around and are the complete opposite of what you labeled them.

[Nidaros]

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You see them live once a year and you come up with this?

First of all, the i get a monthly news letter and there is usually an article about some school, church, or other event the team attends. I just received one 2 days ago and it had pictures and an short article about the men visiting a church in Brookings, serving dinner, washing dishes, and playing games with the kids. This is nothing new for a Nagy team.

Second, i've found the players very approachable, well spoken, humble young men. I'm THRILLED to have these kids represent SDSU.

Before you or any others here attack these guys character, i suggest you sit down and visit with them. You will find that the players are just as upset about some of their performances as you.

I have had one encounter with a current roster member, and it was indeed a very pleasant conversation. These kids are people too, and why is it that being a just a fan in the crowd automatically turns us into a monster when things are not going good. I am certain the kids are upset with their current status and want to turn it around. If they were not concerned, would we not have about seven or eight with packed bags, leaving with a one way bus ticket? I doubt thats the case. I say give them a break. Our constant harping and negative analysis on this board certainly does not turn things around. Be patient or do not be a fan, and the way this current situation is being disected by some of us, I would love to see Coach Nagy do what the Oregon coach did in football. He sat down and wrote a check to a loud mouth fan, who did not like his coaching. Maybe some of us have some sense of shame or are we all like the late Senator McCarty from the State of Wisconsin?

[filbert]

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I'm more interested in seeing how the players come out tonight than hashing/rehashing how they've approached the scorer's table in the past, or various fan's informed or ill-informed opinions thereof.

I think how the guys come out and play tonight will tell us a lot about what we can expect the rest of the season.

My guess--totally uninformed--is that they may have heard a level of . . . shall I say . . . unease with their performance this week that some of them--especially the younger players--may not have heard at any time in their basketball careers.

I know my reaction if I was in their situation would likely be to grit my teeth, come out tonight and try my damndest to prove all of the . . . uneasy people . . . wrong (or, if you will, mistaken in their unease). I hope that's what we see tonight and for the rest of the year.

We will see shortly.

[SturgisJeff]

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I would think you could talk to plenty of students that would say they are great people to do be around and are the complete opposite of what you labeled them.

I didnt label anyone, just repeating what someone else said. I'm through with this thread. I'm sure they are great guys, but there is a problem and I hope they work it out.

[packer_tattoo]

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My guess is that you probably wish you hadn't opened this thread. Be careful what you wish for...

[JimmyJack]

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We saw last night that they can all hustle and play with the kind of energy we are used to seeing from Grif and Dale. If they can maintain that, or feed off of the players who seem to always bring it, we'll be fine.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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I would encourage the people who question the players commitment to the program go watch Coach Nagy's post game press conference on gojacks.com from last night. He had some pretty interesting things to say.

[hoops_guy]

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It is good to hear some of the things the coach talked about. He said something along the lines of "even if we hadn't won the game, we will live with whatever happens if we always get that effort." (paraphrasing there). Good for him, has usually only talked about the winning or losing. He is right to focus on the effort and toughness each night out. Get the guys truly doing it for each other on a consistent basis and good things will happen more often than not. Please guys, don't let last night be a one night thing, buy into it and believe in it and you will be amazed at what you can get done. Congrats to the coach and to the guys, they played for each other, and a funny thing happened, they won the game. Very happy for the Jacks program.

[BTownJack]

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I would think you could talk to plenty of students that would say they are great people to do be around and are the complete opposite of what you labeled them.

Agreed...this team has a lot of great young men on it. I'm sure not everyone is perfect but I'm one that is proud of how these guys represent our great university. Especially considering how much they've struggled the past few years. I would say it could be a lot worse!