Is Nagy gone?

[jackrabbit1979]

Re: Is Nagy gone?

NDSU adds three good freshman next year and only lose Hahn who was a role player.

A role player that single handedly made the SDSU/NDSU game in Fargo a blowout.

[SDSUFAN]

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Do you honestly think Matt will just come back to SDSU if we offer.  He obviously had aspirations to be a head coach or he wouldn't have left for Mankato in the first place.  I may be wrong, but i really doubt he would leave a successful program as a head coach to come back as an assistant in Brookings.  Maybe so, but i doubt it.  

To answer your question, no, not after having built a good program on his own. My point is networking brings good recruits which has not happen except for Holdren and Cadwell, the rest seems to be questionable. This is the big question mark in my mind, and I repeat, I am very skeptical of what has been done in the last two years and maybe since he left.

[Jacks02]

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To answer your question, no, not after having built a good program on his own. My point is networking brings good recruits which has not happen except for Holdren and Cadwell, the rest seems to be questionable. This is the big question mark in my mind, and I repeat, I am very skeptical of what has been done in the last two years and maybe since he left.

Holdren and Cadwell are 2/3rd's of our first recruiting class in DI; and Hornby, Engen, Billitz, and Yackley have yet to play a minute as they are red-shirted (like they should be). How can you say you are dissapointed with our recruiting when you yourself say Holdren and Cadwell are succeses?

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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What about Beran's class. I seem to recall Coach Nagy saying that those three would lead the way into DI. Now only Ben is left.

[jackrabbit1979]

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What about Beran's class.  I seem to recall Coach Nagy saying that those three would lead the way into DI.  Now only Ben is left.

And Mike (remember he took that evil redshirt ), who has played pretty damn well if you ask me.

[FargoBison]

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A role player that single handedly made the SDSU/NDSU game in Fargo a blowout.

Are you joking me? When Phil made his first three of the string of four it was 48-29 and the game was already a blow out. Phil put the nail in the coffin but the game was pretty much already in hand. Phil's role was to provide some expeirence at the guard postition and he has done a great job at doing that but I think Josh Vaughan will be able to step up and fill Phil's role quite well. Vaughan and Woodside should be a pretty good combo to have at the guard positions.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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And Mike (remember he took that evil redshirt ), who has played pretty damn well if you ask me.  

Mike has been truly awesome this year.

[Rabbitden]

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SDSUFAN, lately you have been nothing but a blowhard...the next time you see me dont be afraid to confront me because I will say it to your face.

One moment your behind this whole situation, the next your tooting the Bison up and then your bashing our coaching staff, administration and program. Is retirement getting to you?

I think your loosing it?

Go Jacks!

[SDSUFAN]

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SDSUFAN, lately you have been nothing but a blowhard...the next time you see me dont be afraid to confront me because I will say it to your face.

One moment your behind this whole situation, the next your tooting the Bison up and then your bashing our coaching staff, administration and program.  Is retirement getting to you?

I think your loosing it?

Go Jacks!

Gee thanks, I will look forward to seeing you. But I am dont think it will be necessary to run you down. I dont know who you are so thanks any way for the kind comments. ;D

[Rabbitden]

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Yes you know me...we met at the football pre-game inside the Bird Cage in SF.

You just need to breath a little big guy...these transition take time and problems will arise in any area of acadamia...it just so happens that athletics get more attention then most.

GO JACKS!

[Cadsev]

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The only way that Matt Margenthayler comes back to SDSU as an assistant coach is if he is fired as a head coach.  You simply aren't going to leave Minn State head position to be an assistant at a low D1 school.  The pay cut alone wouldn't make any sense.

While Margenthayler did an outstanding job of recruiting for SDSU Coach Larson has a different set of criteria that he has to recruit.  He also has a larger more aggressive pool recruiting against him as they are competing with D1's and D2's for kids now.  

It's easy to critique from the outside looking in and SDSUFAN is the king of that on this board.  Coach Nagy and Coach Larson are outstanding coaches.  Face the fact that this transition isn't going to happen overnight.  NDSU had a good situtation where they could bring in five freshmen in one class.  They redshirted them all and now are playing solid with these five.  Call it lucky or whatever you want they lost Saturday night at Frost against a makeshift opponent.  Similar to how they beat Wisconsin.  Oh and one more thing......don't compare NDSU record against SDSU's record. You aren't comparing apples to oranges especially when 4 or 5 of the wins for NDSU are against NAIA schools compared to I believe 1 for SDSU. NDSU has been healthy for most of the season, while SDSU has obviously had some issues with health and suspensions.

When you are thin with athletes, loose your top player and don't have much bench strenght you suffer.  Coach Nagy is loyal to his kids and won't walk ones that can't cut it at the D1 level.  Graduation can be a great thing for a program if the kids don't leave.  The guy can flat out coach and Larson can recruit.  He works hard and is on the road a ton.  He also pounds the phones as much as anyone else.

One major thing that people fail to recognize is that NDSU has more full time assistant coaches than SDSU.  You basically are getting it done at SDSU with two guys.  The head coach is on a year to year contract.  Who do you expect to come running to SDSU when you only guarantee them one year?  NDSU has Miles under contract for at least 5 years.  

You want an edge in recruiting?  Pressure your administration to hire another FULL TIME assistant coach and act like a D1 school.  The NCAA allows one head coach and three FULL TIME assistant coaches on the floor for practices.  The NCAA also allows three coaches on the road for recruiting during the recruiting periods.  SDSU has one head coach and one full time assistant coach and two grad assistant coaches on staff.   The rest are volunteers!  So basically they are getting it done with two paid guys, two grad assistants (which only give you two years each) and volunteer assistant coaches.  This does not give you much stability in recruiting.  Hard for two guys to manage recruiting and the day to day operations of the team.

Don't compare what Matt M. did at the NCAA II level to what has to be done today at the DI level.  It's not a level playing field when SDSU's current situation is compared to other programs.  Even NDSU has a leg up in this respect with their coaching staff -- staffing situation.  Hard to cover the country with two guys!

[90Jackrabbit]

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Well said Cadsev, I agree with you 100%.

[JH81]

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Dumbest thread ever!

Who needs the Mav boys when we can just rip into each other.

[jackrabbit1979]

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Well said Cadsev ++++++

It's good to have you back, stick around for a while.

[Rabbitlivinginverm]

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If how I read Cadves post is correct, it concerns me that Nagy is only on a year to year contract. We need to lock him into a 3 or 5 year contract ASAP. He's the best coach ever at SDSU and we don't need to lose him.