Last scholarship???

[Kemo]

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I agree with Zooropa. We needs a PG and a couple of quality big guys -- not 6'6 guys either. Hoping a guy develops into the point guard of the future based on a box score is a lot different than knowing a player is a pure PG coming into your program.

I only have box scores to base off of for Carlson, but my evaluation of White came off of watching multiple games in the state tourney... I really do think he could be not only an adequate point guard, but an exceptional one if the coaches so chose to develop him as one, he is that talented. Think of the match up problems a 6'7" point guard could cause in the Summit League, along with the extra defensive options Nagy would have with him there.

[filbert]

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The absolute last thing we want is someone who doesn't really want to be a Jackrabbit. That's pretty much requirement #1. All the skills in the world are meaningless unless the kid believes in his heart he (or she) is in the right place.

[JimmyJack]

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I've said this before here, and it's worth repeating now. Who knows why an 18-year-old chooses to go to college one place over another? Maybe it's ambition... maybe it's the food service... maybe they really want to major in Pre-Architecture.

I just don't think it's fair to characterize a kid's ambition or determination when we have no idea of why they did what they did. Nate Wolters wasn't comfortable with SDSU for whatever reason. That's his decision. Maybe Cody Schilling just wanted to live in Sioux Falls. I don't know. The point is, you can't fault student athletes for the choices they make. And particularly in the case of student athletes, I'm guessing those choices are very carefully made with many factors in mind. When it comes to choosing a college, you'd better pick someplace where you're comfortable since job number one is getting a degree.

I don't think anybody here is trying to say anything bad about these kids. But it's worth remembering that they're kids who, working with their parents, are trying to pick a place where they'll be successful in both academics and athletics.

[Jacked_Up]

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Nate Wolters sounds like Cody Schilling, who chose D-II Augustana last year despite attracting interest from D-1 schools. D-1 talent limited by D-II ambition. So it goes. The Jacks need guys with ambition that matches or exceeds their talent.

[rcjacks]

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Size at point may be an issue next year, but after that I don't really see it being a problem. Next year Carlson (6'5") and White (6'7") come in and either could end up developing into the point guard of the future. I have never seen Carlson play but I have seen his scoring stats, which may warrant him to become a 2 instead of a 1, but if that is the case White could become a 1 instead of his project 3 spot.

I only say this after I watched White play a couple games in this year's state tournament, as I was incredibly impressed with his demeanor on the court, being patient with the ball and getting the ball to the open man when a double came or help defense rotated over to close up a driving lane. I was expecting to see an athletic scorer who took over games with shear ability, but instead I saw an athlete who excelled at all facets of the games and made everyone around him better. He may not be ready to play point guard at the college level in his true freshman year, but I do feel he has the ability to play the position extremely well with some coaching and could be a true mismatch for opposing teams.

I agree with Zooropa. We needs a PG and a couple of quality big guys -- not 6'6 guys either. Hoping a guy develops into the point guard of the future based on a box score is a lot different than knowing a player is a pure PG coming into your program.

[JACKGUYII]

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Nate Wolters St Cloud Tech team http://www.startribune.com/photos/?c...tcprep0326.jpg
takes on arguably one of the top teams in the country in Hopkins in the 4A Semis. Hopkins has four starters going DI and the fifth point guard Marcus Williams may and should be one we are looking at as he is still looking for a home. http://www.startribune.com/sports/pr...7PQLanchO7DiUr

[Kemo]

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Jacks have two holes to fill: size at point guard and size in the post.

Size at point may be an issue next year, but after that I don't really see it being a problem. Next year Carlson (6'5") and White (6'7") come in and either could end up developing into the point guard of the future. I have never seen Carlson play but I have seen his scoring stats, which may warrant him to become a 2 instead of a 1, but if that is the case White could become a 1 instead of his project 3 spot.

I only say this after I watched White play a couple games in this year's state tournament, as I was incredibly impressed with his demeanor on the court, being patient with the ball and getting the ball to the open man when a double came or help defense rotated over to close up a driving lane. I was expecting to see an athletic scorer who took over games with shear ability, but instead I saw an athlete who excelled at all facets of the games and made everyone around him better. He may not be ready to play point guard at the college level in his true freshman year, but I do feel he has the ability to play the position extremely well with some coaching and could be a true mismatch for opposing teams.

[Nidaros]

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A true point guard would also be helpful.

Would Wolter be ready to go without OJT? I never seen him play, but most have an adjustment going from high school to D1 college ball, despite all kinds of AAU tourneys,camps and what have you.

[1stRowFANatic]

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A true point guard would also be helpful.

[Nidaros]

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DI wonder if the guys took him out to a beer bash on his visit. He is a very straight laced kid. I don't even think he drinks. Just a guess...

I can't imaging him turning down SDSU to play DII. I sure hope he stays in town!

I can imagine as I dont think he was ever interested. BTW Nagy is pretty straight laced himself. I think our guys would be in deep do-do if they took a perspective recruit out to a beer bash and he found out about it. We are in need of post and inside players and not guards and that might be why he turned it down, as he probably wants to play right away and play often. There was no guarentee of this happening at SDSU.

[ozzie679]

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I don't think this Wolters kid was ever interested in SDSU. He has been playing games with us for a while, its time to move on. Let him stay home or let him drive the NISC nuts with his maybe yes and maybe no attitude.

DI wonder if the guys took him out to a beer bash on his visit. He is a very straight laced kid. I don't even think he drinks. Just a guess...

I can't imaging him turning down SDSU to play DII. I sure hope he stays in town!

[Nidaros]

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He was quoted in the St Cloud paper today that he is either going to MSU, SCSU, of Augie. "South Dakota State offered, but I didn't like it that much."

I don't think this Wolters kid was ever interested in SDSU. He has been playing games with us for a while, its time to move on. Let him stay home or let him drive the NISC nuts with his maybe yes and maybe no attitude.

[filbert]

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He was quoted in the St Cloud paper today that he is either going to MSU, SCSU, of Augie. "South Dakota State offered, but I didn't like it that much."

Sounds like he's decided he's a D-II player. Hope he has success in the NSIC.

[zooropa]

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Jacks have two holes to fill: size at point guard and size in the post.

I would be willing to bet that Nagy is quietly, but actively, looking for a big.

Why?

Because, at this point in time, I don't think Davis is to be relied on as the #1 big--even if healthy. If he were cleared medically to begin practicing right now, the poor guy's lost 9 months of intense practices and apparently per the nature of the illness, it seems a good deal of physical exercise.

Now I'm sure SDSU's trainers had this guy exercising at his limits, but those limits may put him seriously behind the curve.

Next up: What big? I would bet that Nagy could lay his hands on any of a number of JuCo bigs that would come to SDSU with serious baggage, and if that's the case, he and the department are to be commended for keeping an urgent need for the program from impacting institutional reputation.

It will be interesting to see what happens, that's for sure.

[ozzie679]

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If Davis can't go I think a Juco Big has to be the priority. If they think he can go I have to believe Nate Wolters is still in the mix.

He was quoted in the St Cloud paper today that he is either going to MSU, SCSU, of Augie. "South Dakota State offered, but I didn't like it that much."