Conference RPI ratings

[JBNJBQ]

Conference RPI ratings

Posted on bisonboard by roadwarrior.....07/23/06 at 21:17:38  

Data calculated based on final RPI ratings issued by the NCAA for 2005-06 season.

60.00      Southeastern
60.36      Big Ten
64.88      Big East
70.75      Atlantic Coast
86.92      Big 12
94.80      Missouri Valley
97.00      Pacific-10
131.44      Mountain West
137.78      Western Athletic
139.08      Colonial
139.29      Atlantic 10
157.60      Metro Atlantic
159.88      West Coast
164.33      Horizon
168.92      Mid-American
171.00      Conference USA
175.88      Big Sky
181.00      Sun Belt
201.00      Big South
201.36      OVC
208.63      Patriot
210.91      Southland
216.38      Big West
216.82      Southern
223.13      Ivy
227.27      Northeast
227.56      Atlantic Sun
236.56      America East
243.33      Mid-Continent
264.09      Mid-Eastern
272.00      Southwestern
287.67      Division I Independents



Mid-Con finished 29th  

[89rabbit]

Re: Conference RPI ratings

Last year was a bad year for the Mid-Con here is a look a recent history.


http://www.kenpom.com/confrank.php?y=2000

2005 - 24th
2004 - 21st
2003 - 27th
2002 - 21st
2001 - 22nd
2000 - 29th
1999 - 24th


Hopefully we will get into the Mid-Con and can help rise the conference RPI to new heights.

Go State!  

[Jacks-D1]

Re: Conference RPI ratings

Looks to me like the Mid-Con has always had a bad year as far as conference RPI goes.

[89rabbit]

Re: Conference RPI ratings

You are right, in all that time I can't believe that the Mid-Con hasn't over taken the SEC, Big 10, ACC, or Big XII. What are those schools doing. ;D

Seriously it looks to me like the top 12 spots (and perhaps as high as the first 15 spots) are pretty much locked up by the major conferences/high Mid-Majors year in and year out. That means the rest of the conferences are fighting for spots 13 - 31. Don't get me wrong the Mid-Con has room for improvment even in their best years (and if we get in I would like to see the conference grow to that high Mid-Major status), but to finish 21st as they have a couple of times isn't a bad showing, IMHO.


Go State!

[West_River_Jack]

Re: Conference RPI ratings

Will the UBC be included in the rankings for the 2006-07 season? Any predictions (if they are)? Does the UBC have the makings for anything better than last place?

[jackrabbit1979]

Re: Conference RPI ratings

Looks to me like the Mid-Con has always had a bad year as far as conference RPI goes.

I'll take the midcon's rankings over the our current group, the independents, everyday and twice on Sunday . Plus we will have the chance at an Auto-Bid.

[Haldersham]

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SDSU has a long ways to go to get any kind of recognition, especially in Men BB. The Mid Con is a big starter and lets hope we have very good news two to three weeks from now. Bill Gates never started at the top either. I think the Big Dance willl be on the scene for a long time even if for some reason CBS were to drop its contract with the NCAA. No doubt there are other media outlets ready to pick up where CBS left off. Its too much money for both the NCAA members and advertisers to ignore.

I have often wondered if filling Frost for the D2 Regionals did much for the NCAA other than pay the expenses of the participants travel. It probably did not. Also I understand a small portion of the Big Dance Receipts go towards the deficits of D2 and D3 playoffs so that they are solvent.

We are on the right track and RPI's are interesting but nothing to be overly concerned about.

[MilwaukeeJacksAlum]

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All I care about is making the big dance. Whether our potential conference home has a good RPI really doesn't mean much. The only way we're going to make the big dance is by winning the conference tourney. Our odds of doing that are better in a lower RPI conference than in a higher RPI. Take that as a positive.

[jackmd]

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SDSU has a long ways to go to get any kind of recognition, especially in Men BB. The Mid Con is a big starter and lets hope we have very good news two to three weeks from now. Bill Gates never started at the top either.  I think the Big Dance willl be on the scene for a long time even if for some reason CBS were to drop its contract with the NCAA. No doubt there are other media outlets ready to pick up where CBS left off. Its too much money for both the NCAA members and advertisers to ignore.

I have often wondered if filling Frost for the D2 Regionals did much for the NCAA other than pay the expenses of the participants travel. It probably did not. Also I understand a small portion of the Big Dance Receipts go towards the deficits of D2 and D3 playoffs so that they are solvent.

We are on the right track and RPI's are interesting but nothing to be overly concerned about.

I find it a bit confusing that more people can't recognize that at the DII level we had NO national exposure. In fact, we barely had exposure outside of a the 5-state region. To expect immediate recognition in the DI ranks is ridiculous. There is no comparison between DII and DI, there just isn't. You can say the best DII teams in a particular year would beat a certian % of DI teams but that just doesn't matter. The difference between sustaining a DI program and a DII program are substantial.

The next step is conference affiliation. We haven't let development of our DI plans delay because we don't have a conference, this is good. Now, we need to make the transition into a conference (if offered) a smooth one. Then, we talk about competing for conference titles and eventually, winnnig one. Big picture is the key here. No room or time to think in the short-term about results. The short-term is about planning and execution.

[Haldersham]

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Oh I think people around Brookings seem to be talking less and less about D2. I think and the board reflects it that going the D1 path is only going to get better.  Maybe its the other things that are happening in the NCC that are making this choice of moving on to D1 look more and more attractive.

I am hoping for a better year this year in Men's BB. We will just have wait and see. Having UND and USD move up will certainly put some interest back in the equation. How they work their plans out remains to be seen. I hope they can do that. I am still puzzled about Centenenary and how they have made it into the Mid Con and D1.

To get on topic, RPI's are very interesting and thats about all.

[1stRowFANatic]

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To get on topic, RPI's are very interesting and thats about all.

IMO, unfortunately they are more than interesting since the selection committee takes team and conference rpi into consideration on allocating at large bids. If an extra bid goes to a major conference, mid-majors and small conferences end up sending less teams.

[filbert]

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Oh I think people around Brookings seem to be talking less and less about D2. I think and the board reflects it that going the D1 path is only going to get better. Maybe its the other things that are happening in the NCC that are making this choice of moving on to D1 look more and more attractive.

I am hoping for a better year this year in Men's BB. We will just have wait and see. Having UND and USD move up will certainly put some interest back in the equation. How they work their plans out remains to be seen. I hope they can do that. I am still puzzled about Centenenary and how they have made it into the Mid Con and D1.

To get on topic, RPI's are very interesting and thats about all.

Not just in Brookings . . . when I originally moved to Kansas City I was curious about the MIAA, even went to the conference basketball tournament one year.

Then SDSU moved to D-I. Now I really couldn't care less about the MIAA, or D-II generally. I've got some lingering interest in the fate of the NCC due to our long history with that conference and those schools, but I don't wake up on Sunday morning during the school year wondering who won or lost at Grand Forks or Mankato.

I think UND (and if they go, USD) moving up will be a benefit for SDSU--two more D-I teams in the region to play, either out of conference or eventually in-conference (bus trip! save money!). As for Centenary, they've been D-I for a long time. If I recall correctly, NBA great Robert Parrish went to Centenary. So they've got some basketball tradition, anyway.

I think the men's team will be MUCH improved over the last couple of years. They'll still be awfully young, but I think the entire environment will be much more stable. That's a big part of why I hope we get good news from the Mid-Con in mid-September. An invite to a conference will be a rallying point that the team, the coaches, and the fans can get behind -- Get ready for the Mid-Con in 2007-08 (I hope). My expectation is for a .500 year. I haven't really looked at our schedule to know how reasonable that is, but it doesn't matter--we gotta play them all. Heck, until proven otherwise, I think we will have a shot at beating Minnesota. Wouldn't that be sweet?

Rabbit's feet out, rabbit's fingers crossed . . .

[Haldersham]

Re: Conference RPI ratings

There has been some discussion over on Bisonville and Sioux Sports about UND current year deficit. I don't know what it spells but I am curious enough to print off the offical report that is posted on the Offical UND website.

BTW a Google search on Robert Parrish and Centenary showed the following facts.

Robert did have a discrete career at Centenary per the Wikipedia and I think the reason discrete was used is because they probably were in the NAIA at that time when he played which would have been the mid 1970's. Also on Centenary web site, their Hall of Fame lists the Gymnastics team of 1984 who won the NAIA tourney. Trying to find the exact year that they did go D1 is hard to find. I could not find that info on the NCAA sites and maybe I have not looked in the right place. I looked at the Mid Con site and only found out that they started Mid Con conference play in 2003 which is recent, but exactly when they went from NAIA to D1, that is not available at the website and no media guides are available either. Non-the-less, this small college affliated with the United Methodist church seems to have some wise people in charge who have stayed away from expensive sports and charge enough tuition to cover their expenses. I do see they have Bell South as one of their corporate sponsors. They do have a beautiful Gold Dome basketball facility that seats only 3000.

I agree I dont worry about the scores from Vermillion and all the other places, but do have passing interest in the NCC and because of our charter membership. I hope no body thinks that I am some sort of a closet D2 fan. I am not that at all.

Okay I will agree the RPI's are important, because of the selection committee etc., until we get in a conference and start to compete for a championship, I guess I will read with interest only.

Bottom line, after watching some of the D1 volleyball today, I think we can hold our own. I am grateful towards Coach Palieo for being able to get these teams to come to Brookings. If it were men's bb, would teams like Gonzaga, Washington State, Weber State fill Frost?  I would hope so, but to explain these three teams along with NDSU are on campus for the Volleyball Kickoff.