Does SDSU have the financial resources?

[Grizzled_Jack]

"WICHITA, Kan. -- Wichita State basketball coach Mark Turgeon's new 10-year contract extension includes a base salary of $750,000 per year, making him one of the highest-paid coaches in the Missouri Valley Conference."

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2406346

OK-- SDSU had to recently up the ante to compete at the CEO level. The Valley isn't the Mid-Con, but it still is a mid-major conference and the basketball analog to the Gateway. This is awfully high for the MVC, but it is being paid. Top coaches make big bucks and the variation in salaries between division I and II is a lot more than the variation of individual presidents in the same institutions.

Does SDSU have the resources to put even 25% of this kind of money into their programs. If not, the successful coaches will take off for greener pastures and the not-so-successful will hang around.

[thebluehatman]

Re: Does SDSU have the financial resources?  

Financial resources don't mean anything as evidence by George Mason basketball last year who have almost the same budget as SDSU basketball has. But I don't think it is fair to say tongue in cheek Nagy has been not-so-successful in his tenure at SDSU, if you can remember he has coached teams that put us Elite Eight and has hosted playoff games at Frost. Now I know you didn't mention Nagy's name but this is the men's basketball section, so many you were talking about Nagy. If you weren't talking about Nagy, I apologize in advance for making that guess.

[Haldersham]

Re: Does SDSU have the financial resources?  

"WICHITA, Kan. -- Wichita State basketball coach Mark Turgeon's new 10-year contract extension includes a base salary of $750,000 per year, making him one of the highest-paid coaches in the Missouri Valley Conference."

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2406346

OK-- SDSU had to recently up the ante to compete at the CEO level.  The Valley isn't the Mid-Con, but it still is a mid-major conference and the basketball analog to the Gateway.  This is awfully high for the MVC, but it is being paid.  Top coaches make big bucks and the variation in salaries between division I and II is a lot more than the variation of individual presidents in the same institutions.  

Does SDSU have the resources to put even 25% of this kind of money into their programs.  If not, the successful coaches will take off for greener pastures and the not-so-successful will hang around.  

I would say we dont the resources right now. .Paying coaches is something the legislature is not going to go for at all whereas if its a Presidet of a land grant school that is paid the lowest in the country then they would consider it. Apparently that will happen with President Chicoine.

What this means if we want an individual like the one at Witcha State , we need to have a bigger arena, a winning record, and sellouts. None of this has happen so far for either bb program.


The only coach of which I feel we are even close to losing over salaries is AJ, women;s BB coach. Some of the big D1 powers seem to want to hire women coaches for women bb. That seems to be what is keeping AJ in place. I am sure if AJ gets a good offer, he probably will take it. I would tend to believe this would be true with nearly every coach we have.

We are only three years into the transition period, so we are probably still D2 in many ways.

I hoping we will have similar salary problems that Wichita State is having now down the road, but its off in the future.

[EQguy]

Re: Does SDSU have the financial resources?  

Financial resources mean keeping coaches long term.

I think we will be destined to be the ladder that coaches climb for a while. It is fairly normal at this level. Look at how many coaches jump from the mid majors to the big boys. Two I can think of are the current coach of Arkansas who was at Kent State 2 or 3 years ago and Tennessee's coach who left UW-Milwaukee a few years ago. There are several more that happen this way every year.

I think the Mo Valley is starting to climb into the upper mid major category and now they are going to have to pay their coaches to stay. Hopefully SDSU can get to that level. It is going to take a lot of SDSU alums and fans to pony up a bit more than they ever have.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

Re: Does SDSU have the financial resources?  

I would rather see budget increases for additional assistants. I think that would have a greater impact on the success of the program.

[mitchell2006]

Re: Does SDSU have the financial resources?  

Didn't Wichita State make it to the final four last year, or maybe the elite eight. Either way, if the Jacks could put together a string of winning seasons and could make it that far in the tournament then I'm guessing they will be able to dish out the big bucks to reward the coaching staff....probally not as much as wichita state did though. Don't teams recieve money for winning games in the tournament like they do for winning bowl games?

[filbert]

Re: Does SDSU have the financial resources?  

When you're in a conference that puts three, four, or more teams into the NCAA tournament, yeah, you start having the resources to pay your basketball coaches big bucks.

That's why SDSU's focus should be making the Mid-Con a multiple-bid conference.

Also, as other posters have noted, success will bring additional revenue (gate receipts, merchandise, better broadcast contracts, etc.).

Just win, baby . . .

[MilwaukeeJacksAlum]

Re: Does SDSU have the financial resources?  

how much of that $750,000 per year was paid by the school? What I mean by that is that a large portion of salaries by some coaches are paid by donor money. It's all above boards, but essentially, when a school wants to retain the coach and have their hands tied, the school goes to donors and says "we need money to keep coach" and the donors give to the school for that purpose. When Bruce Pearl left UWMilwaukee for Tenn, he was offered a very big package complete with largely donor money to stay here. Coach Crean for Marquette has a large portion of his salary paid by donors and guaranteed sponsor money, etc. I would imagine if SDSU wanted to step up into the big leagues in coaches salaries, a similar thing would need to happen. We'd need some donor money to make it happen.

[Statebasketballfan]

Re: Does SDSU have the financial resources?  

I would rather see budget increases for additional assistants. I think that would have a greater impact on the success of the program.

SDSU has 3 assistant coaches for mens and womens bball this year don't they? I think thats the D-I max for assistants.

[EQguy]

Re: Does SDSU have the financial resources?  

No they have 1 for each. The other two are Graduate Assistants.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

Re: Does SDSU have the financial resources?  

[quote author=SF_Rabbit_Fan link=1163489625/0#4 date=1163514098]I would rather see budget increases for additional assistants. I think that would have a greater impact on the success of the program.

SDSU has 3 assistant coaches for mens and womens bball this year don't they? I think thats the D-I max for assistants.[/quote]

My bad, I should have said paid assistants.

I think NDSU has 1 head coach and two paid assistants in addition to several GA's for basketball, not that it made much of a difference last year.