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    Senior leadership.

    That's two words---senior, and leadership.

    I was listening to some guys on sports radio talking about this year's NCAA tournament and how many teams were real threats to make the Final Four. They talked about George Mason's senior laden team last year. That got me thinking.

    Megan Vogel is the prototypical senior leader. A player with the experience, determination, and ability to put the team on his or her shoulders and turn a loss into a win by sheer force of will backed by enough athletic ability to make good things happen. The Jacks men haven't had a true senior leader on the court since . . . when? Austin Hanson in 2002-03? Derrick Schantz in 2003-04?


    Let's look at the last few teams:
    2004-05 seniors were Luke Giever, Brady Hokenson, and Jared DeJong. These names did not exactly frighten opponents. Andy Moeller bailed out when we went to D-I. He would have helped greatly in the first year of transition. Giever, Hokenson, and DeJong were, in my opinion, borderline D-II starters, let alone first-string D-I players.

    2005-06 seniors were . . . nobody. Matt Jones would have been a difference-maker, but for his health issues that forced his retirement. It goes without saying that you don't have senior leadership if you don't have any seniors.

    2006-07 seniors (this year) are Andy Kleinjan and Jose Frias. I think you have to be honest and say that those are two names which are not circled on opponent's whiteboards as Jackrabbits you have to hold down. They may be seniors, they may be leaders, but they're not Senior Leadership in the "come on, team, climb onto my back, I'll get you there" mode that someone like Vogel is.

    Enough of looking behind. Let's look forward.

    Next year, if things go well, our seniors will be Ben Beran, Mohammed Berte, Mackenzie Casey, Troy Wipf, and Michael Loney. Beran has proven he can take over a game at the D-I level. I'm sure the people in Lexington still remember that kid from South Dakota--we lost that game but won a lot of respect. I don't know if the rest of them (with the possible exception of Berte) could really take over a game, but really you only need one Senior Leader to be a threat on any given night.

    The following year, our first year of NCAA tournament eligibility, our seniors will be Cadwell, and any juco player we pick up as a junior in 2007-08, if any. Cadwell can take over a game, if he has a supporting cast who can take some of the defensive pressure off of him. Fortunately, he'll have a group of solid juniors as the "supporting cast" which means that . . .

    In 2009-10, the seniors will include Callahan, Yackley, Williams, Bassett, and Engen. Kai Williams has shown definite flashes of take-over-a-game ability with his play this year. Callahan and Yackley might also develop into game-changing players. Bassett and Engen are still projects but who knows how much they'll improve by the time they're seniors?

    Senior Leadership. Accept no substitutes.
    "I think we'll be OK"

  • #2
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    I think I would add Loney next year also. Not so much for his ability to take over a game, but more as an inspirational leader. Loney is a class act.

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    • #3
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      Originally posted by 1bunnies
      I think I would add Loney next year also. Not so much for his ability to take over a game, but more as an inspirational leader. Loney is a class act.
      Yeah, I guess my judgment of Loney is probably due to his valiant attempt to play center at the D-I level--he's just a bit too small to pull it off. Let him get out from under the basket every once in a while (preferably by putting a bigger Jackrabbit there to take up space) and he might be able to go off on someone every once in a while, too.
      "I think we'll be OK"

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      • #4
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        What was the exact deal with matt jones-- this is what I understand feel free to corect me if im wrong
        He was an awsome freshman then contracted lime disease took a year off lost 40 pounds came back played good not as good as he had the year before, had problems keeping weight on and quit/retired?

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        • #5
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          Originally posted by jjbballfan
          What was the exact deal with matt jones-- this is what I understand feel free to corect me if im wrong
          He was an awsome freshman then contracted lime disease took a year off lost 40 pounds came back played good not as good as he had the year before, had problems keeping weight on and quit/retired?
          Not sure if it was lime disease as far as i know. It was then it wasn't then it was again so not exactly sure. What ever it was it created extreme fatigue that he couldn't recover from. He would get so worn out from one day of playing basketball taht he didnt hardly have energy for anything else. Don't know if anyone has anyother information to add to that or knows more then i do about it.
          "The most rewarding things you do in life, are often the ones that look like they cannot be done.” Arnold Palmer

          Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.

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          • #6
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            Fil, wasn't Moeller leaving because his medical redshirt year would not have transfered to D-1? I thought if he wanted to stay he would have lost his last year of elegibility, which wouldn't do us any good either way. He was one of my favorite players but i don't fault him for going to MSU. I don't think he really bailed on us as much as it was rules and bad luck that kept him from staying. Maybe I am wrong but i thought it had something to do with he was going to lose a year of eleigbility if he went D-1. Any one else know anymore about this or am I just way off base?
            "The most rewarding things you do in life, are often the ones that look like they cannot be done.” Arnold Palmer

            Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.

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            • #7
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              I don't remember what it was, but it made like a 3 page story in the Argus.

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              • #8
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                Originally posted by goon
                Fil, wasn't Moeller leaving because his medical redshirt year would not have transfered to D-1?  I thought if he wanted to stay he would have lost his last year of elegibility, which wouldn't do us any good either way.  He was one of my favorite players but i don't fault him for going to MSU.  I don't think he really bailed on us as much as it was rules and bad luck that kept him from staying.  Maybe I am wrong but i thought it had something to do with he was going to lose a year of eleigbility if he went D-1.  Any one else know anymore about this or am I just way off base?
                You are way off base. Andy left and went to Mankato with the hopes of winning a D2 National Championship. They were good, but came up short. Andy also waited until the last day of classes in the spring to tell the coaches he would not return. Kind of sneaking out the back door if you will. It had nothing to do with Andy's elgibility.

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                • #9
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                  Originally posted by 1bunnies
                  [quote author=goon link=1171493110/0#5 date=1171518029]Fil, wasn't Moeller leaving because his medical redshirt year would not have transfered to D-1?  I thought if he wanted to stay he would have lost his last year of elegibility, which wouldn't do us any good either way.  He was one of my favorite players but i don't fault him for going to MSU.  I don't think he really bailed on us as much as it was rules and bad luck that kept him from staying.  Maybe I am wrong but i thought it had something to do with he was going to lose a year of eleigbility if he went D-1.  Any one else know anymore about this or am I just way off base?
                  You are way off base. Andy left and went to Mankato with the hopes of winning a D2 National Championship. They were good, but came up short. Andy also waited until the last day of classes in the spring to tell the coaches he would not return. Kind of sneaking out the back door if you will. It had nothing to do with Andy's elgibility.[/quote]
                  A friend of mine who was close to the program said it was known about for sometime in the program that he was going to transfer but they didnt make it public till after the season and all that. I think i need a little more info on it, because I understood there was more to it then he just wanted to leave and win a championship.
                  "The most rewarding things you do in life, are often the ones that look like they cannot be done.” Arnold Palmer

                  Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.

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                  • #10
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                    While doing a search online, i fould this.

                    "I hope it wasn't sold to them that way, because if USD moves to D-I they will be back on a five year eligibility, meaning that they could have one more year at a D-II school, and may transfer out again. Look at SDSU when they moved. Andy Moeller transfered to Mankato to keep an extra year of eligibility. USD may find these guys gone if they move up to D-I."

                    It does not quite clarify it but its from another chat site. So who knows about that exactly but it sounds like there was something more too it.
                    "The most rewarding things you do in life, are often the ones that look like they cannot be done.” Arnold Palmer

                    Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Senior Leadership, past and future

                      Originally posted by goon
                      While doing a search online, i fould this.

                      "I hope it wasn't sold to them that way, because if USD moves to D-I they will be back on a five year eligibility, meaning that they could have one more year at a D-II school, and may transfer out again. Look at SDSU when they moved. Andy Moeller transfered to Mankato to keep an extra year of eligibility. USD may find these guys gone if they move up to D-I."

                      It does not quite clarify it but its from another chat site.  So who knows about that exactly but it sounds like there was something more too it.
                      I also found this, not that i know the rules of eligibility and changing divisions. but here was another post from a site that talks about it.

                      "Moeller's situation may be true. Justin Monson was denied a sixth year of eligibility for next year, although he would have been eligible under DII rules. "

                      I guess what ever his reason I don't blame him or hold any ill will towards him. He had to do what was best for him. Now I'm done with talking about this because it doesnt really matter, Lets hope the team gets the leadership now that it deserves and needs.
                      "The most rewarding things you do in life, are often the ones that look like they cannot be done.” Arnold Palmer

                      Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.

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                      • #12
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                        To answer the earlier question about Matt Jones. He got mono, which a lot of people get. But with Matt, it morphed into (I forget the exact term) basically a severe version of mono. He couldn't run up and down the basketball floor twice without being completely exhausted. He was one great guy and it was a very sad situation. I would talk to him and he would basically cry, he was so frustrated (He once said, here I am, a young man who loves basketball, and I have a hard time running down the floor.)

                        Anyway, they tried everything and nobody could come up with an answer. He visited lots of doctors, and never got a good answer. At one time, later, one doctor thought it was Lime's disease, or maybe a combination of the two (since they act a lot alike), but the final word I saw was that the conclusion was it wasn't Limes.

                        Anyway, had a chance to talk to Matt briefly when he was lining up to receive his diploma last spring. He was a little better, but still not real strong. He did play baseball, where he didn't have to run a lot. Don't know where he is at today, but hope he is doing OK. His loss was a BIG loss to our team.

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                        • #13
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                          Originally posted by jacks#1fan
                          To answer the earlier question about Matt Jones. He got mono, which a lot of people get. But with Matt, it morphed into (I forget the exact term) basically a severe version of mono. He couldn't run up and down the basketball floor twice without being completely exhausted. He was one great guy and it was a very sad situation. I would talk to him and he would basically cry, he was so frustrated (He once said, here I am, a young man who loves basketball, and I have a hard time running down the floor.)

                          Anyway, they tried everything and nobody could come up with an answer. He visited lots of doctors, and never got a good answer. At one time, later, one doctor thought it was Lime's disease, or maybe a combination of the two (since they act a lot alike), but the final word I saw was that the conclusion was it wasn't Limes.

                          Anyway, had a chance to talk to Matt briefly when he was lining up to receive his diploma last spring. He was a little better, but still not real strong. He did play baseball, where he didn't have to run a lot. Don't know where he is at today, but hope he is doing OK. His loss was a BIG loss to our team.
                          Matt is currently going to chiropractic school in the Twin Cities.

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                          • #14
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                            I'm sure another reason he went to Mankato was because Coach Margenthaler was the one who was recruiting him when he was here at SDSU.

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                            • #15
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                              As with the news with Kardoes transfering, i beilive Moeller was the same situation. Isn't there an appeals process to reinstate that year of eligiblity from medical redshirt? I guess i could look some where in the books, but doubt if i could find it.
                              "The most rewarding things you do in life, are often the ones that look like they cannot be done.” Arnold Palmer

                              Don't sweat the petty things, and don't pet the sweaty things.

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