Breaking Through: What's Needed to win an NCAA game or two?

[MontanaRabbit]

Re: Breaking Through: What's Needed to win an NCAA game or two?

I really hope that Key gets on the TK workout plan from last offseason, whatever the hell he did. Key was a game changing player during postseason play last year once he started scoring, picture a whole season of that, nobody in the Summit League can keep up with him.

It would be nice to get some consistent scoring from Key. Ohio State blows us out without Key in the tourney last year. If Key can shoot a higher percentage from three, look out.

[BigGoosie13]

Re: Breaking Through: What's Needed to win an NCAA game or two?

Really excited about this kid. He already physically looks like a D1 bball player. If he can step in and contribute right away, and Alou Dillon plays like people expect him to, watch out. It's going to be a great year with Daum, Jenkins, King, Flatten, and Key. It could be Jacks bball's biggest year ever with big contributions from guys like King and Dillon (going to be weird having two Kings on the court at the same time). I'm really interested to see if any of the other redshirt or true freshmen step up to provide depth, as I believe the 7 mentioned will likely be the main guys for 2018-2019.

Here's a nice compilation of King's highlights if you haven't seen them.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EbHKQiVvOxc

I really hope that Key gets on the TK workout plan from last offseason, whatever the hell he did. Key was a game changing player during postseason play last year once he started scoring, picture a whole season of that, nobody in the Summit League can keep up with him.

[CappinHard]

Re: Breaking Through: What's Needed to win an NCAA game or two?

A new article on this topic from Andy Katz at CBS Sports.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball...e-another-ncaa

“And if there is a player who could be a difference maker to take the Jackrabbits across that finish line and actually win an NCAA tournament game it could be freshman Owen King. He was a quarterback in high school in Minnesota and someone who Otzelberger said could have played Big Ten football but chose hoops.”

“”He’s a winner,’’ said Otzelberger of the 6-3 guard. “He gives us a lot of toughness and intangible qualities. He will be an impactful player who will play heavy minutes and possibly an eventual starter.’’

Really excited about this kid. He already physically looks like a D1 bball player. If he can step in and contribute right away, and Alou Dillon plays like people expect him to, watch out. It's going to be a great year with Daum, Jenkins, King, Flatten, and Key. It could be Jacks bball's biggest year ever with big contributions from guys like King and Dillon (going to be weird having two Kings on the court at the same time). I'm really interested to see if any of the other redshirt or true freshmen step up to provide depth, as I believe the 7 mentioned will likely be the main guys for 2018-2019.

Here's a nice compilation of King's highlights if you haven't seen them.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EbHKQiVvOxc

[Southeast]

Re: Breaking Through: What's Needed to win an NCAA game or two?

A new article on this topic from Andy Katz at CBS Sports.

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball...e-another-ncaa

“And if there is a player who could be a difference maker to take the Jackrabbits across that finish line and actually win an NCAA tournament game it could be freshman Owen King. He was a quarterback in high school in Minnesota and someone who Otzelberger said could have played Big Ten football but chose hoops.”

“”He’s a winner,’’ said Otzelberger of the 6-3 guard. “He gives us a lot of toughness and intangible qualities. He will be an impactful player who will play heavy minutes and possibly an eventual starter.’’

[slosho]

Re: Breaking Through: What's Needed to win an NCAA game or two?

Apparently they needed to cheat to beat us...

https://ohiostate.247sports.com/Arti...ions-117492435


(in case that wasn't obvious that was said somewhat in jest)

[SDSUAlum08]

Re: Breaking Through: What's Needed to win an NCAA game or two?

Not sure where to put this but found it interesting. http://siusalukis.com/news/2018/3/31...h-edition.aspx

No pressure on the coach there.

No pressure.

[Justwin]

Re: Breaking Through: What's Needed to win an NCAA game or two?

Not sure where to put this but found it interesting. http://siusalukis.com/news/2018/3/31...h-edition.aspx

No pressure on the coach there.

[BTownJack]

Re: Breaking Through: What's Needed to win an NCAA game or two?

19 offensive rebounds for Ohio State, 10 in the first. That killed us.

Also, as some have said and I've been saying all along, we need to play better defense. We made strides this year in that department but not enough of them. I understand it might not be TJ's main philosophy but in my very non-expert opinion we would move into the elite category if our defense improved.

[SDSUAlum08]

Re: Breaking Through: What's Needed to win an NCAA game or two?

Howell will likely grad transfer. I believe he even said in an interview that his goal this semester was to graduate.

[Nidaros]

Re: Breaking Through: What's Needed to win an NCAA game or two?

Howell does have one more year of eligibility. He played one season of JUCO and has spent two here.

Thanks I did not know that.

[bigticket1]

Re: Breaking Through: What's Needed to win an NCAA game or two?

I did not check all the box scores on goJacks.com but Howell played up to 10 minutes in many OOC games so I believe he used his eligibility up and to get a medical redshirt might be more than what he wants to do. I would tend to agree. I don't expect him back.

Howell does have one more year of eligibility. He played one season of JUCO and has spent two here.

[Nidaros]

Re: Breaking Through: What's Needed to win an NCAA game or two?

I'm not bemoaning the 3-point shooting or the strategy letting them shoot but late in games it is a huge no-no to foul 3-point shooters. In both cases the inopportune fouls cost Jacks a total of 4 points ... in a game under 2 minutes you simply cannot do that. After that you have to chase after points and that almost never works in tight close games.

Yes the fouls were costly, but the game was winding down very quickly, and by the body language of OSU players, they felt another game was in their future.

[Nidaros]

Re: Breaking Through: What's Needed to win an NCAA game or two?

I doubt Howell will be back.

I did not check all the box scores on goJacks.com but Howell played up to 10 minutes in many OOC games so I believe he used his eligibility up and to get a medical redshirt might be more than what he wants to do. I would tend to agree. I don't expect him back.

[jbjack]

Re: Breaking Through: What's Needed to win an NCAA game or two?

Churchill said that the army with the most divisions usually wins the war, so the obvious answer is to bring in better players but in the mid major world that is far easier said than done. Identify sleepers like Wolters, Daum and Jenkins and leave the door open for the Cody Larsons of the world to come "home" of the bright lights don't work out. The challenge for and midmajor is finding the combination of talent and athleticism. Those players tend to flock to major program.

[wcbsas]

Re: Breaking Through: What's Needed to win an NCAA game or two?

I’d argue it was more rebounding than anything and let a poor 3 point shooting team just jack up some shots. The effectiveness is definitely debatable, but if we don’t let them get a boatload of offensive rebounds in the first half we are up by 10 points or more at half IMO.


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I'm not bemoaning the 3-point shooting or the strategy letting them shoot but late in games it is a huge no-no to foul 3-point shooters. In both cases the inopportune fouls cost Jacks a total of 4 points ... in a game under 2 minutes you simply cannot do that. After that you have to chase after points and that almost never works in tight close games.