GDT: @ Omaha Mavericks

[Nidaros]

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He didn't feel good about the T last night either.
https://youtu.be/qXytNRR6rX4

No he didn't and having his little son be part of pressed was a good move. Family is important and think this time of the year, that little one does not get to see much of dad.

[yoteforever]

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I don't post much on here anymore but I have been reading with a lot of interest your posts regarding TJ and all the comments that have been made....some good but most unkind. A good many of you are experts on whether you play man to man vs zone, or whether Coach should've gotten a T at a certain point or not, but my guess there isn't one of you that's in that environment on a daily basis, and haven't ever walked in the shoes of TJ or Stig for that matter.

When your AD hired TJ, I told you in no uncertain terms that you hired a great coach. He's a fantastic recruiter, he's great with public relations, and he earns the trust and respect of his players, and he trusts and respects them back if warranted. You don't know what goes on in that locker room, or on the practice court. You don't know if players attend class, or of they get into trouble in some manner, and you never will because TJ will keep it in house and give everyone a break to better themselves and not put it out in the public arena for everyone to see. He doesn't make excuses, he simply says it is what it is.

i don't know basketball like I do football even though I go to a ton of games, but I do know this. You have one helluva coach in TJ. And you can criticize him all you want, but ask yourself this question. How well do you know your team, literally. How tough is so and so? The world knows Daum is awesome, and he's a great kid, but how mentally tough are a lot of your kids? How much heart do they have? Or better yet, ask yourself if you see your team getting better at a faster clip than many of the other teams in the Summit? Because I will tell you that you are. TJ is getting the most out of what he has. He is coaching them up, and I'll tell you from observance that they are getting a helluva lot tougher. Despite what you thought at the beginning of the year, you don't have as much talent as you once did. He will restock the shelves, don't worry about that.

why am I posting now? Watch the you tube clip of Omaha game and the locker room celebration. You don't think he hasn't bought in to being your coach? And he hasn't bought into the betterment of the kids? Or more importantlay, watch the very end...your team, the SDSU Jacks love that guy. That emotion isn't fake, it's real. Give this guy a break. He will have you competing for titles soon enough.

[Southeast]

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Good insight Yote and I agree about the "toughness" of the team starting to really show. The postgame speech scene in the Youtube video said a lot. The message board has been a dumpster fire but I've enjoyed watching the team grow.

[trueblue]

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Was going to give rep pts but it would not let me.

[Nidaros]

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I don't post much on here anymore but I have been reading with a lot of interest your posts regarding TJ and all the comments that have been made....some good but most unkind. A good many of you are experts on whether you play man to man vs zone, or whether Coach should've gotten a T at a certain point or not, but my guess there isn't one of you that's in that environment on a daily basis, and haven't ever walked in the shoes of TJ or Stig for that matter.

When your AD hired TJ, I told you in no uncertain terms that you hired a great coach. He's a fantastic recruiter, he's great with public relations, and he earns the trust and respect of his players, and he trusts and respects them back if warranted. You don't know what goes on in that locker room, or on the practice court. You don't know if players attend class, or of they get into trouble in some manner, and you never will because TJ will keep it in house and give everyone a break to better themselves and not put it out in the public arena for everyone to see. He doesn't make excuses, he simply says it is what it is.

i don't know basketball like I do football even though I go to a ton of games, but I do know this. You have one helluva coach in TJ. And you can criticize him all you want, but ask yourself this question. How well do you know your team, literally. How tough is so and so? The world knows Daum is awesome, and he's a great kid, but how mentally tough are a lot of your kids? How much heart do they have? Or better yet, ask yourself if you see your team getting better at a faster clip than many of the other teams in the Summit? Because I will tell you that you are. TJ is getting the most out of what he has. He is coaching them up, and I'll tell you from observance that they are getting a helluva lot tougher. Despite what you thought at the beginning of the year, you don't have as much talent as you once did. He will restock the shelves, don't worry about that.

why am I posting now? Watch the you tube clip of Omaha game and the locker room celebration. You don't think he hasn't bought in to being your coach? And he hasn't bought into the betterment of the kids? Or more importantlay, watch the very end...your team, the SDSU Jacks love that guy. That emotion isn't fake, it's real. Give this guy a break. He will have you competing for titles soon enough.

A great post. This may not be a twenty win season, but its going to be a good one. Reuben "Jack" Frost did not have many if any 20 win seasons but his ability as an administrator was second to none. The first year I watched any Jack games was the last year of Frost coaching(1953-54). I put Coach Otz in same class of Reuben "Jack" Frost because both are real thinkers and both loved their families. Frost never had any boys, all girls while living in Brookings, but his family continued to grow and later two boys were added. Two of daughters were going to Brookings High when I was and both were very sharp students. Good luck Coach Otz in the rest of the season, and you are going to have a great career at SDSU.

[OldHare]

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I don't post much on here anymore but I have been reading with a lot of interest your posts regarding TJ and all the comments that have been made....some good but most unkind. A good many of you are experts on whether you play man to man vs zone, or whether Coach should've gotten a T at a certain point or not, but my guess there isn't one of you that's in that environment on a daily basis, and haven't ever walked in the shoes of TJ or Stig for that matter.

When your AD hired TJ, I told you in no uncertain terms that you hired a great coach. He's a fantastic recruiter, he's great with public relations, and he earns the trust and respect of his players, and he trusts and respects them back if warranted. You don't know what goes on in that locker room, or on the practice court. You don't know if players attend class, or of they get into trouble in some manner, and you never will because TJ will keep it in house and give everyone a break to better themselves and not put it out in the public arena for everyone to see. He doesn't make excuses, he simply says it is what it is.

i don't know basketball like I do football even though I go to a ton of games, but I do know this. You have one helluva coach in TJ. And you can criticize him all you want, but ask yourself this question. How well do you know your team, literally. How tough is so and so? The world knows Daum is awesome, and he's a great kid, but how mentally tough are a lot of your kids? How much heart do they have? Or better yet, ask yourself if you see your team getting better at a faster clip than many of the other teams in the Summit? Because I will tell you that you are. TJ is getting the most out of what he has. He is coaching them up, and I'll tell you from observance that they are getting a helluva lot tougher. Despite what you thought at the beginning of the year, you don't have as much talent as you once did. He will restock the shelves, don't worry about that.

why am I posting now? Watch the you tube clip of Omaha game and the locker room celebration. You don't think he hasn't bought in to being your coach? And he hasn't bought into the betterment of the kids? Or more importantlay, watch the very end...your team, the SDSU Jacks love that guy. That emotion isn't fake, it's real. Give this guy a break. He will have you competing for titles soon enough.

I would agree with what you have highlighted about Coach Otz. You might also be a bit more transparent about the background you have with him as well. I recall that you were hopeful he would be hired at USD since he is a very good recruiter. You were also less than 100% behind Coach Smith's appointment to that job while competing with Coach Otz. I am not certain if you also have Iowa State season tickets. It seems you are not being totally objective in chastising Jackrabbit fans for the frustration involving the earlier defensive lapses that were being experienced. Also, if you had the chance to listen to Coach Coffman of Ft Wayne praising the talent that was on the Jackrabbit team. He is someone that might know basketball better than football. Also, AD Sell might have enough success in his job that comforts more people than you think about the quality of the hire without an endorsement or sermon which somehow questions the trust or ability you think the Jackrabbit fans doubt. At the same time, most people understand that even an honest, hard working, and talented person will experience a bump or two along the way. I am not certain why you believe that the Jackrabbit fans doubt Coach Otz. If you look at the attendance in Omaha, you will find it was the largest crowd of the year for Baxter Arena. I do not have a head count of the Jackrabbit fans, but I would make a wild guess that the blue in the crowd helped make that largest crowd of the year number. In closing this is a quote of yours from June 2, 2015-"TJ is one of the finest people I know, and I know him well."

[Nidaros]

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I would agree with what you have highlighted about Coach Otz. You might also be a bit more transparent about the background you have with him as well. I recall that you were hopeful he would be hired at USD since he is a very good recruiter. You were also less than 100% behind Coach Smith's appointment to that job while competing with Coach Otz. I am not certain if you also have Iowa State season tickets. It seems you are not being totally objective in chastising Jackrabbit fans for the frustration involving the earlier defensive lapses that were being experienced. Also, if you had the chance to listen to Coach Coffman of Ft Wayne praising the talent that was on the Jackrabbit team. He is someone that might know basketball better than football. Also, AD Sell might have enough success in his job that comforts more people than you think about the quality of the hire without an endorsement or sermon which somehow questions the trust or ability you think the Jackrabbit fans doubt. At the same time, most people understand that even an honest, hard working, and talented person will experience a bump or two along the way. I am not certain why you believe that the Jackrabbit fans doubt Coach Otz. If you look at the attendance in Omaha, you will find it was the largest crowd of the year for Baxter Arena. I do not have a head count of the Jackrabbit fans, but I would make a wild guess that the blue in the crowd helped make that largest crowd of the year number. In closing this is a quote of yours from June 2, 2015-"TJ is one of the finest people I know, and I know him well."

I am with YFE, some of us have been hard on the coach, but we can not expect 20 win seasons year after year. Maybe I have low expectations, but it does not happen. I seen enough Jackrabbit stuff and the media guides have to tell the truth. I am very hopeful, it will start to turn in the right direction next year. I think you are getting a little personal about YFE ties to Iowa State. Does it really matter like in a 100 years? Most likely not. That's what I learned from Cowboy Church sermon on RFD TV today.

[yoteforever]

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I would agree with what you have highlighted about Coach Otz. You might also be a bit more transparent about the background you have with him as well. I recall that you were hopeful he would be hired at USD since he is a very good recruiter. You were also less than 100% behind Coach Smith's appointment to that job while competing with Coach Otz. I am not certain if you also have Iowa State season tickets. It seems you are not being totally objective in chastising Jackrabbit fans for the frustration involving the earlier defensive lapses that were being experienced. Also, if you had the chance to listen to Coach Coffman of Ft Wayne praising the talent that was on the Jackrabbit team. He is someone that might know basketball better than football. Also, AD Sell might have enough success in his job that comforts more people than you think about the quality of the hire without an endorsement or sermon which somehow questions the trust or ability you think the Jackrabbit fans doubt. At the same time, most people understand that even an honest, hard working, and talented person will experience a bump or two along the way. I am not certain why you believe that the Jackrabbit fans doubt Coach Otz. If you look at the attendance in Omaha, you will find it was the largest crowd of the year for Baxter Arena. I do not have a head count of the Jackrabbit fans, but I would make a wild guess that the blue in the crowd helped make that largest crowd of the year number. In closing this is a quote of yours from June 2, 2015-"TJ is one of the finest people I know, and I know him well."

Not being transparent? I couldn't be more transparent. I've stated from the start how well I know TJ and said so from my experience with him at Iowa State. Let me address your pints one by one:

1.) I do have season tickets at Iowa State and USD
2.) I wasn't opposed to Coach Smiths hiring as much as I was for TJ. That being said Coach Smith is one hell of a good coach and I'm very proud to call him both our coach and now a great friend.
3.) I think I'm safe saying I've made a few friends on here that I enjoyed the back and forth banter about USD vs SDSU but yes, there are a number on here that attack and distort what I say regardless of what I say. But when you say I am not being objective about many posters sharp criticism of TJ I simply say go back and reread the several rants several posters have made since November. My gosh, are you kidding me?
4.) Coach Coffman, along with any smart and media savvy coach will say things like that in order not to give any opponent "locker room" material.
5.) I have never said one negative word on AD Sell, in fact I've supported him as he is a good guy.
6.) Your quote "I am not certain why you believe Jackrabbit fans doubt Coach Otz"? I simply reply back are you ****ting me?
7.) Your attendance in Omaha? I will assume you're right. That's awesome. You should support your team regardless of their level of success.
8.) You quoting me from 2015 about TJ being one of the finest people I know, and I know him well? So you thoroughly understand, he's like a second son to me. How's that for transparency?

This is exactly why I don't post on here anymore. If I said your nickname was the Jacks, you would say it's Jackrabbits. That's just how it is.

In closing let me tell you a story. I promised TJ I would be at his first game as a head coach where ever he landed his first head coaching job. Little did I ever think it would be to our in state rival. When he asked me my opinion about the job I told him the truth....it would be a great opportunity and welcoming fan base. Anyway, I flew from Florida to San Francisco so I could be there for his first game against Cal. I even wore a Jack basketball shirt. As I was sitting in the motel lobby waiting for the team to depart for the coliseum so I could follow them in my car along with a great friend of TJ's from Washington, one of your more prominent boosters saw me and came up to me and chastised me for being there and we don't need any stinking Coyote fans to cheer for us. Two other fans, along with a mom of a player came up to me right after and apologized for that guys behavior and thanked me profusely for being there. The guy from Washington was like what the hell just happened? I think that man might just be you?

For the rest of you, you have a great coach, and I wish you well.

[Nidaros]

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Not being transparent? I couldn't be more transparent. I've stated from the start how well I know TJ and said so from my experience with him at Iowa State. Let me address your pints one by one:

1.) I do have season tickets at Iowa State and USD
2.) I wasn't opposed to Coach Smiths hiring as much as I was for TJ. That being said Coach Smith is one hell of a good coach and I'm very proud to call him both our coach and now a great friend.
3.) I think I'm safe saying I've made a few friends on here that I enjoyed the back and forth banter about USD vs SDSU but yes, there are a number on here that attack and distort what I say regardless of what I say. But when you say I am not being objective about many posters sharp criticism of TJ I simply say go back and reread the several rants several posters have made since November. My gosh, are you kidding me?
4.) Coach Coffman, along with any smart and media savvy coach will say things like that in order not to give any opponent "locker room" material.
5.) I have never said one negative word on AD Sell, in fact I've supported him as he is a good guy.
6.) Your quote "I am not certain why you believe Jackrabbit fans doubt Coach Otz"? I simply reply back are you ****ting me?
7.) Your attendance in Omaha? I will assume you're right. That's awesome. You should support your team regardless of their level of success.
8.) You quoting me from 2015 about TJ being one of the finest people I know, and I know him well? So you thoroughly understand, he's like a second son to me. How's that for transparency?

This is exactly why I don't post on here anymore. If I said your nickname was the Jacks, you would say it's Jackrabbits. That's just how it is.

In closing let me tell you a story. I promised TJ I would be at his first game as a head coach where ever he landed his first head coaching job. Little did I ever think it would be to our in state rival. When he asked me my opinion about the job I told him the truth....it would be a great opportunity and welcoming fan base. Anyway, I flew from Florida to San Francisco so I could be there for his first game against Cal. I even wore a Jack basketball shirt. As I was sitting in the motel lobby waiting for the team to depart for the coliseum so I could follow them in my car along with a great friend of TJ's from Washington, one of your more prominent boosters saw me and came up to me and chastised me for being there and we don't need any stinking Coyote fans to cheer for us. Two other fans, along with a mom of a player came up to me right after and apologized for that guys behavior and thanked me profusely for being there. The guy from Washington was like what the hell just happened? I think that man might just be you?

For the rest of you, you have a great coach, and I wish you well.

Transparent enough for me. You indeed have many friends.

[OldHare]

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Not being transparent? I couldn't be more transparent. I've stated from the start how well I know TJ and said so from my experience with him at Iowa State. Let me address your pints one by one:

1.) I do have season tickets at Iowa State and USD
2.) I wasn't opposed to Coach Smiths hiring as much as I was for TJ. That being said Coach Smith is one hell of a good coach and I'm very proud to call him both our coach and now a great friend.
3.) I think I'm safe saying I've made a few friends on here that I enjoyed the back and forth banter about USD vs SDSU but yes, there are a number on here that attack and distort what I say regardless of what I say. But when you say I am not being objective about many posters sharp criticism of TJ I simply say go back and reread the several rants several posters have made since November. My gosh, are you kidding me?
4.) Coach Coffman, along with any smart and media savvy coach will say things like that in order not to give any opponent "locker room" material.
5.) I have never said one negative word on AD Sell, in fact I've supported him as he is a good guy.
6.) Your quote "I am not certain why you believe Jackrabbit fans doubt Coach Otz"? I simply reply back are you ****ting me?
7.) Your attendance in Omaha? I will assume you're right. That's awesome. You should support your team regardless of their level of success.
8.) You quoting me from 2015 about TJ being one of the finest people I know, and I know him well? So you thoroughly understand, he's like a second son to me. How's that for transparency?

This is exactly why I don't post on here anymore. If I said your nickname was the Jacks, you would say it's Jackrabbits. That's just how it is.

In closing let me tell you a story. I promised TJ I would be at his first game as a head coach where ever he landed his first head coaching job. Little did I ever think it would be to our in state rival. When he asked me my opinion about the job I told him the truth....it would be a great opportunity and welcoming fan base. Anyway, I flew from Florida to San Francisco so I could be there for his first game against Cal. I even wore a Jack basketball shirt. As I was sitting in the motel lobby waiting for the team to depart for the coliseum so I could follow them in my car along with a great friend of TJ's from Washington, one of your more prominent boosters saw me and came up to me and chastised me for being there and we don't need any stinking Coyote fans to cheer for us. Two other fans, along with a mom of a player came up to me right after and apologized for that guys behavior and thanked me profusely for being there. The guy from Washington was like what the hell just happened? I think that man might just be you?

For the rest of you, you have a great coach, and I wish you well.

Now that is the information I would have expected in the post from you as a friend of Coach Otz. I am still deaf to the "get rid of the coach" rants. However, that might be the "thick skin" some develop which I would expect most coaches to also develop. Nagy was getting plenty of those "get out of town" a few years back. Also, I hope your "get rid of the coach" rants were not being confused with where in the hell is the defense questions. Meanwhile, go back to my first sentence and reread that with everything else. Have a great day!

[MontanaRabbit]

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I don't post much on here anymore but I have been reading with a lot of interest your posts regarding TJ and all the comments that have been made....some good but most unkind. A good many of you are experts on whether you play man to man vs zone, or whether Coach should've gotten a T at a certain point or not, but my guess there isn't one of you that's in that environment on a daily basis, and haven't ever walked in the shoes of TJ or Stig for that matter.

When your AD hired TJ, I told you in no uncertain terms that you hired a great coach. He's a fantastic recruiter, he's great with public relations, and he earns the trust and respect of his players, and he trusts and respects them back if warranted. You don't know what goes on in that locker room, or on the practice court. You don't know if players attend class, or of they get into trouble in some manner, and you never will because TJ will keep it in house and give everyone a break to better themselves and not put it out in the public arena for everyone to see. He doesn't make excuses, he simply says it is what it is.

i don't know basketball like I do football even though I go to a ton of games, but I do know this. You have one helluva coach in TJ. And you can criticize him all you want, but ask yourself this question. How well do you know your team, literally. How tough is so and so? The world knows Daum is awesome, and he's a great kid, but how mentally tough are a lot of your kids? How much heart do they have? Or better yet, ask yourself if you see your team getting better at a faster clip than many of the other teams in the Summit? Because I will tell you that you are. TJ is getting the most out of what he has. He is coaching them up, and I'll tell you from observance that they are getting a helluva lot tougher. Despite what you thought at the beginning of the year, you don't have as much talent as you once did. He will restock the shelves, don't worry about that.

why am I posting now? Watch the you tube clip of Omaha game and the locker room celebration. You don't think he hasn't bought in to being your coach? And he hasn't bought into the betterment of the kids? Or more importantlay, watch the very end...your team, the SDSU Jacks love that guy. That emotion isn't fake, it's real. Give this guy a break. He will have you competing for titles soon enough.

Since I'm the only one who said anything about TJ not getting a T with under three minutes to go in the game where Omaha is making a run I'll assume you are addressing me with your little attack in the first paragraph. I think TJ's response in the locker room supports my position. He knows he made a mistake. Luckily the guys were tough enough to not let that beat them. Three weeks ago I'm not sure that would have been the case.

You also bring up the m2m vs zone. There was a lot of criticism on the defense and rightfully so. Our defense was atrocious and TJ kept saying he was 100% sure zone gave us the best chance to win. He said this several times after we continued to get torched night after night while playing it. Hell there was one game we shot 65% in the first half and still trailed. The post game comments after that game centered around our offense. That's head scratching. Maybe it's coach speak, but it's going to draw some criticism. I'm sorry if you don't like that. He's the head men's basketball coach at the largest and most supported college in the state. Criticism comes with the territory. Again, I'm sorry you can't handle that.

More on the m2m vs zone point. Since we switched back to m2m we are 2-2 with a win over FW who I think most people would say is the team with the highest ceiling. We could easily be 3-1 if we could have hit our free throws at IUPUI.

Finally, I've been critical at times to some decisions because they just don't seem to make sense. That what this board is for. But at the same time I've stated on multiple occasions that TJ is learning on the job. He may be a great coach but this is his first time being "the guy". He's going to make mistakes. The VAST majority of people on here recognize that. I'd recommend if you can't handle reading criticism about your buddy that you not read this board. There are always going to be people on here who criticize him. Hell there was at least one poster who criticized Nagy from time to time after we'd been to two NCAA tourneys.

[wcbsas]

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• I love that Marquette used a 1-3-1 zone to get that huge win over Villanova. I am a fan of the 1-3-1 for three reasons: First, the main line of defense goes right through the center of the floor. This takes away the high post, which is where the 2-3 zone is so vulnerable. Second, the 1-3-1 puts two defenders on the ball, no matter where it is. In today’s dribble-drive happy game, that is a huge asset. And finally, very few teams play the 1-3-1, which means very few teams know how to run offense against it. Sure, there are gaps (especially in the corners), but every defense has gaps. The corner is a difficult spot to make shots, and there are not a lot of power forwards in college basketball who are able to make midrange baseline jumpers. Coaches have a tendency to copycat whatever is working, but I’ve always thought the smarter play is to do something that's different.

http://www.si.com/college-basketball...s-preview-show

Per Seth Davis:

[jacksstudent]

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http://www.si.com/college-basketball...s-preview-show

Per Seth Davis:

are you saying we should go back to exclusive 1-3-1?

the 1-3-1 is effective at times especially if it catches a team by surprise. If you look at our blanket 1-3-1 defense through almost the full first half of the conference it didn't work, there is no way to spin that it was successful as the only team we beat with that zone was missing their second best player and we won on a last second shot.

since the man has been infused and we've ran it quite a bit we are 2-2 and we beat 2 quality opponents.

we are fortunate that tj didn't stay with 100% zone. It wasn't working and it was obvious to everyone it wasn't working.

i don't mind running a 1-3-1 but I wouldn't do it exclusively without running a lot of man 2 man.

just my opinion.

[bigticket1]

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Maybe, just maybe the coaching staff decided to go back to man-to-man because after continuing to work on it in practice, the players finally proved to them that they had mastered it enough to be able to effectively play it in games. And not because they read this message board and said "oh hell, let's go back and try man defense." Plus, as was stated on here, they would never play man again, because if they did and it worked it would prove them wrong.

[MontanaRabbit]

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Maybe, just maybe the coaching staff decided to go back to man-to-man because after continuing to work on it in practice, the players finally proved to them that they had mastered it enough to be able to effectively play it in games. And not because they read this message board and said "oh hell, let's go back and try man defense." Plus, as was stated on here, they would never play man again, because if they did and it worked it would prove them wrong.

Absolutely could be the case. That's why I said above that TJ insisting that he 100% believes zone will give them the best chance to win could be coach speak. But expecting there to be no criticism of those comments is unrealistic.

I commend him for making the change.

One thing that could pay dividends down the road is we've shown we are willing to play zone. That gives teams something more to prepare for and also gives us an option to switch defenses throughout the game to keep teams off balance.