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  • #31
    Re: GDT: UC Irvine II

    Also...nice intro video compared to the other schools.
    "Tell the truth and pay your bills and you don't have to back down from anyone"--My Dad

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    • #32
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      Other than Daum, the entire team is playing with no confidence. It's easy to blame the new coaching staff, but in all honesty more blame should go to Nagy and Co. for getting the team in the sh*tty guard situation we have. Having your best 4 guards graduating and having zero recruits signed going into the spring signing period was almost criminal. That had to be a big factor in him deciding it was time to move on. Coach Otz was left in a no-win situation where he had to take whatever he could cobble together. Orris obviously isn't the answer, and they burned El Darwich's red shirt tonight to try and find someone to provide minutes. No one must be distinguishing themselves in practice either, as it seems like games are a trial and error method to try to find a combination that will click. And the schedule hasn't helped, with only one true home game out of the first 8, which doesn't allow much practice time to fix things.

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      • #33
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        The Jacks played well the first few minutes of the game, but that was about it. SDSU shot poorly most of the game, and the Anteaters weren't much better. Interestingly, the Jacks played a 1-3-1 zone defense the entire game. That strengthened the perimeter defense but probably caused rebounding problems. The guard rotation is still a work in progress.
        This space for lease.

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        • #34
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          Originally posted by bigticket1 View Post
          Other than Daum, the entire team is playing with no confidence. It's easy to blame the new coaching staff, but in all honesty more blame should go to Nagy and Co. for getting the team in the sh*tty guard situation we have. Having your best 4 guards graduating and having zero recruits signed going into the spring signing period was almost criminal. That had to be a big factor in him deciding it was time to move on. Coach Otz was left in a no-win situation where he had to take whatever he could cobble together. Orris obviously isn't the answer, and they burned El Darwich's red shirt tonight to try and find someone to provide minutes. No one must be distinguishing themselves in practice either, as it seems like games are a trial and error method to try to find a combination that will click. And the schedule hasn't helped, with only one true home game out of the first 8, which doesn't allow much practice time to fix things.
          The one positive relating to the guard situation is SDSU should be very attractive to a top JUCO guard wanting to be the missing piece of the puzzle which could lead to a very good team. I still think we will see steady improvement as the season progresses but finding another Deondre Parks at a junior college looks very important right now.

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          • #35
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            Originally posted by JackJD View Post
            The one positive relating to the guard situation is SDSU should be very attractive to a top JUCO guard wanting to be the missing piece of the puzzle which could lead to a very good team. I still think we will see steady improvement as the season progresses but finding another Deondre Parks at a junior college looks very important right now.
            Wallace shot 40% from three last year and this year is struggling to hit water falling from a boat. We need the guys to gain some confidence. Also this is the second consecutive game with 30 or more attempts from deep. Thats too many even if we would have shot good.

            On the bright side if we would have shot halfway decent we'd have won that game.

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            • #36
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              The Jacks came out in a 1-3-1 zone defense with Gentry running the baseline. They played it with a lot of energy, and it really bothered Irvine for about the first 10 minutes. After that they adjusted and started finding open threes. And the Jacks were not in good rebounding position and gave up a lot of offensive boards.

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              • #37
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                The box score is even uglier than I thought. 14 made baskets...25% shooting. Not to mention the Pentagon damn near ran out of beer last night...
                "Tell the truth and pay your bills and you don't have to back down from anyone"--My Dad

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                • #38
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                  Originally posted by bigticket1 View Post
                  Other than Daum, the entire team is playing with no confidence. It's easy to blame the new coaching staff, but in all honesty more blame should go to Nagy and Co. for getting the team in the sh*tty guard situation we have. Having your best 4 guards graduating and having zero recruits signed going into the spring signing period was almost criminal. That had to be a big factor in him deciding it was time to move on. Coach Otz was left in a no-win situation where he had to take whatever he could cobble together. Orris obviously isn't the answer, and they burned El Darwich's red shirt tonight to try and find someone to provide minutes. No one must be distinguishing themselves in practice either, as it seems like games are a trial and error method to try to find a combination that will click. And the schedule hasn't helped, with only one true home game out of the first 8, which doesn't allow much practice time to fix things.
                  It is all Nagy's fault is a stretch. Darwich was not playing for more reasons than a redshirt. Defense and rebounding have more to do with the final score than guard play. There were enough players on the team to warrant preseason considerations than the new coach brought. Poor shooting might have to do with shot selection and offensive scheme than Nagy. You cannot play too up tempo if starters are playing 30, 34, 36, and 39 minutes. The gate that blames Nagy needs to be closed.
                  Best to remember these are kids and they are doing everything they can to entertain us, be scholars, and all in all be great humans. Jackedforlife

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                  • #39
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                    At least they played some defense last night. It looked exhausting to try and keep up the intensity that zone required. As far as I know, that was the first time they tried a 1-3-1. I would have liked to see them mix it up a little but I suppose TJ is using these OOC games to try and get things ironed out for later (see all the lineup experiments).

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                    • #40
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                      Is Skyler hurt and did King play himself out of the lineup? To replace both players is ridiculous. King brings intangibles and a toughness that no other player brings. To replace him with a player who all he does is shoots threes is not a fair exchange. And to pour salt on the wound plays him only 10 minutes. The coach needs to get his starters in place and then work on his rotation. Don't think his reactionary coaching changes is benefiting anyone team or player. Reid was having an off game did he need 35-minutes? Really confused with the coaching staff decision making.

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                      • #41
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                        I did not mean to imply that all the blame rests with the previous coaching staff. But it has been stated here many times that college basketball is a guard-oriented game, and Coach Otz inherited a very weak and unproven guard situation. El Darwich was already being recruited before the coaching change - I believe this team would be struggling with the same problems had the coaching staff hadn't changed, although maybe not at this level.

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                        • #42
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                          Originally posted by bigticket1 View Post
                          I did not mean to imply that all the blame rests with the previous coaching staff. But it has been stated here many times that college basketball is a guard-oriented game, and Coach Otz inherited a very weak and unproven guard situation. El Darwich was already being recruited before the coaching change - I believe this team would be struggling with the same problems had the coaching staff hadn't changed, although maybe not at this level.
                          Truth here that's all I can say. And yes, Nagy would have struggled here. He is currently 4-1 on the season, but he inherited a better program than TJ did.

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                          • #43
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                            I'm a little concerned that our 2017 recruiting class isn't guard heavy with our current situation. Krueger is more of another Reed. Arians is really the only guard addition that will be adding a new piece...

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                            "Macy Miller could play for anybody in the country. She's an all-league guard in the SEC. And South Dakota State, there's no doubt they could play in our league. They wouldn't finish in the bottom half either." --Jimmy Dykes

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                            • #44
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                              Originally posted by Jacked4Days View Post
                              I'm a little concerned that our 2017 recruiting class isn't guard heavy with our current situation. Krueger is more of another Reed. Arians is really the only guard addition that will be adding a new piece...

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                              Someone made a comment earlier about getting a Juco guard next year. That along with this post made me think of the scholarship numbers.

                              13 scholarship players this year

                              We lose Hess and Orris next year, but we gain 4 freshmen.

                              That puts us at 15 scholarship players next year, so we will be seeing at least 2 transfers just to get to 13. In order to get a JuCo, we would need three to transfer.

                              Are my numbers correct?

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                              • #45
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                                Originally posted by gojacksgo View Post
                                Someone made a comment earlier about getting a Juco guard next year. That along with this post made me think of the scholarship numbers.

                                13 scholarship players this year

                                We lose Hess and Orris next year, but we gain 4 freshmen.

                                That puts us at 15 scholarship players next year, so we will be seeing at least 2 transfers just to get to 13. In order to get a JuCo, we would need three to transfer.

                                Are my numbers correct?
                                We don't necessarily need transfers because two of the athletes are going to pay their own way the first year.

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                                "Macy Miller could play for anybody in the country. She's an all-league guard in the SEC. And South Dakota State, there's no doubt they could play in our league. They wouldn't finish in the bottom half either." --Jimmy Dykes

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