Future Rosters

[bigticket1]

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Now that the season is over, I'm sure the coaching staff will meet and decide how the current players fit into the future of the program. It happens in every program, but especially where a new coaching staff has completed their first season. There may be players that Otz will have the tough discussion with that they are better off looking for a new school to attend. We need to remember it happens many places, as well as it probably did here in cases like Broman and Doyle. Doesn't mean they are not good kids or players.

[Jacks-02]

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I thought maybe Dykman was a candidate to leave too, but reading this article he seems pretty happy with where he is at.

Dykman Eager For Challenge Of Gonzaga

[joeboo22]

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[QUOTE=Jackbacker123;313038]

Updated for end of season. I wonder how long it will take to learn who is leaving?[/QUOTE

After watching this season I don't see where Flatten has much of future at SDSU. I as much as any South Dakotan, I had high hopes for Skyler but it doesn't seem like TJ is on the same page.

Dykman - Seems like Doyle. I mean seriously, Theisen goes out out for how many games and you can't see the court for a minute.

Wallace, I don't know what to think.

El Darwich - Not TJ's guy, might not have a future.

Severyn - Filled a gap this year but I can't imagine is in the cards for next year.

Dykman- unless there is more to the story it just seems like he isn't a D-I player. You'd think he'd had seem some minutes somewhere if he was.

Wallace- I don't know, those JuCo transfers are a funny thing.

El Darwich- He looked decent, and then an injury, he looked really raw.

Severyn- Why would he leave? He is a defensive glue guy, and just played 24 minutes in a NCAA tournmanet game, unless he'd qualify as a grad transfer I'm not sure why he'd leave.

Flatten- Seems like just when he is going to get a spot in the rotation he picks up one of those nagging day to say injuries that coaches hate. It did seem like he started playing more lately, he didn't play a ton yesterday, but that might have a been a matchup thing. With him I would have thought if he was going to leave he would have left already. But you never know. Also it seems like getting that yr back helps if you don't transfer.

[NebraskaJack]

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I feel Lane will still still see minutes unless Hilliard-Polk is more of a 4 than a 3. We still don't have a lot of depth at the 4/5 position especially if we have any type of injury issues. I know Dillon is coming aboard but hate to think of relying that much on a freshman.

Don't have the same feeling about Flatten tho.....for whatever reason he hasn't earned the coaches trust and there is more depth at his position.

Hope we can figure out the back up point guard position. We were at the point where we played Orris 40 per game. With only one pg coming in we are in the same predicament unless Darwich steps up. Plus our new PG is fairly sbort which may hurt us on the defensive end.

[Jackbacker123]

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[QUOTE=slosho;313070]

I would like to point out that Lane filled a very Griff Role at the end of the season and the D was much improved with his presence

Agree 100%. I've wanted him to see him play more for two years. I just wonder what his role will be next year? I will always hope for Flatten and Severyn to get minutes, I'm just not optimistic it will happen.

[slosho]

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[QUOTE=Carolina010;313047]

I would have a bad time believing that flatten, severyn, and Wallace are going anywhere because unless they go down to d2 they won't have any eligibility to sit out a year. Also, flatten and severyn not playing isn't really new to them. It's. It like they were playing high minutes earlier in their careers.

I would like to point out that Lane filled a very Griff Role at the end of the season and the D was much improved with his presence

[Carolina010]

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[QUOTE=Jackbacker123;313038]

Updated for end of season. I wonder how long it will take to learn who is leaving?[/QUOTE

After watching this season I don't see where Flatten has much of future at SDSU. I as much as any South Dakotan, I had high hopes for Skyler but it doesn't seem like TJ is on the same page.

Dykman - Seems like Doyle. I mean seriously, Theisen goes out out for how many games and you can't see the court for a minute.

Wallace, I don't know what to think.

El Darwich - Not TJ's guy, might not have a future.

Severyn - Filled a gap this year but I can't imagine is in the cards for next year.

I would have a bad time believing that flatten, severyn, and Wallace are going anywhere because unless they go down to d2 they won't have any eligibility to sit out a year. Also, flatten and severyn not playing isn't really new to them. It's. It like they were playing high minutes earlier in their careers.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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Not sure if its been posted here yet, but http://verbalcommits.com/schools/south-dakota-state keeps a tally of who is on the team by year. Not sure how accurate this is.

[Jackbacker123]

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[QUOTE=WestSideRabbit;313024]Updated for end of season. I wonder how long it will take to learn who is leaving?[/QUOTE

After watching this season I don't see where Flatten has much of future at SDSU. I as much as any South Dakotan, I had high hopes for Skyler but it doesn't seem like TJ is on the same page.

Dykman - Seems like Doyle. I mean seriously, Theisen goes out out for how many games and you can't see the court for a minute.

Wallace, I don't know what to think.

El Darwich - Not TJ's guy, might not have a future.

Severyn - Filled a gap this year but I can't imagine is in the cards for next year.

[WestSideRabbit]

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The "Future Rosters" Thread on the WBB page has been helpful for keeping track of where we are at with scholarships and looking ahead to future years. I figured it was time to start one for MBB.

Senior:
Reed Tellinghuisen, Forward
Ian Theisen, Center
Skyler Flatten, Guard (Pending Medical Waiver, could be a Junior)
Lane Severyn, Forward
Andre Wallace, Guard

Junior:
Mike Daum, Forward
Tevin King, Guard
Chris Howell, Guard
Brandon Key, Guard
Dallas Polk-Hilliard, Forward

Sophomore:
Sergio El Darwich, Guard
Adam Dykman, Forward
Beau Brown, Guard (non-scholarship)

Freshmen:
Alou Dillon, Forward
Ryan Krueger, Guard
Alex Arians, Guard
Matt Dentlinger, Post (Grayshirt)

2018:
Trevor Hansen, Post
Owen King, PG

Updated for end of season. I wonder how long it will take to learn who is leaving?

[jackdaniel]

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If no one leaves there are 15 scholarship players on the roster with two non-scholarships (Brown-walkon & Dentlinger-grey shirt). That leaves the team two scholarships over. Two scholarship guys will need to leave. It doesn't matter if it's Daum or Dykman. Two guys will be leaving.

Maybe you're just saying they don't deserve to lose it. I'm guessing TJ didn't think he'd be taking his team to the NCAA the way the season was going. This makes his job tougher because a lot of guys stepped up at the end of the year.

There are other options: His JUCOs can stay another year at their school. Not sure if they have another year left there. And a HS recruit could go to prep school for a year. I'm not sure if either are possible for them.

They could withdraw two schollarship offers,or show two the benefit of going elsewhere(?)They could also do one of each,but, over the limit is over the limit. Convince two players to play without a scholarship (highly doubtful)

[bigticket1]

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Both of the incoming JUCO's have played two years. Not sure if it still commitable, but we also offered McGrory the Edina,MN point guard a month or so ago.

[jackdaniel]

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This begs the question,have some P-5 conferences thought about or are considering offering guaranteed 4 yr scholarship contracts in the future?If so,it's just another way for big money conferences to force more expense on the little guy, in my opinion to leverage an unfair advantage in the recruiting process.I do think athletes should get 4 yr scholarships though,but the scrutiny placed on them to determine if they are worthy will be greatly increased one would think.They should have that peace of mind IMO.

[SDSUAlum08]

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There is no need for two of them to leave. Maybe one. And even that's debatable.

If no one leaves there are 15 scholarship players on the roster with two non-scholarships (Brown-walkon & Dentlinger-grey shirt). That leaves the team two scholarships over. Two scholarship guys will need to leave. It doesn't matter if it's Daum or Dykman. Two guys will be leaving.

Maybe you're just saying they don't deserve to lose it. I'm guessing TJ didn't think he'd be taking his team to the NCAA the way the season was going. This makes his job tougher because a lot of guys stepped up at the end of the year.

There are other options: His JUCOs can stay another year at their school. Not sure if they have another year left there. And a HS recruit could go to prep school for a year. I'm not sure if either are possible for them.

[Jacked_Up]

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Wallace, El-Darwich, and Dykman are the three that many will speculate. Two will be gone. Any others would be a surprise. Tough decisions to be made.

There is no need for two of them to leave. Maybe one. And even that's debatable.