2015 NIT

[EQguy]

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Wow.

The ESPNU "experts" know that SDSU's nickname is the Jackrabbits and we're in the Summit League. And that, apparently, is all they know about SDSU.

In other words, the usual.

Kinda funny this post came exactly 1 post after this one by you.

Respect isn't given, it's earned.

Jacks need to go out and earn some respect, the old-fashioned way.

How quickly we forget

[mitchellrabbit]

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North Carolina Central a 7 seed and an RPI of 128. They apparently dont go by RPI when seeding.

[filbert]

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Kinda funny this post came exactly 1 post after this one by you.



How quickly we forget

Well, we are two years removed from back-to-back NCAA trips. They knew details about most other teams they talked about--a coach or player name, for instance. And, theoretically, it's their job to know about teams in the field, and SDSU was the #1 seed in our conference tournament.

So yes, I think that level of respect was, in fact, earned but not given.

[OldHare]

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https://cdn1.vox-cdn.com/uploads/cho...-bracket.0.pdf
The brackets are here.

[filbert]

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The NIT Field, in RPI order (RPI as of Saturday, Mar. 14)

RPI, NIT seed, and Team name
30. 1. Colorado State
34. 1. Temple
45. 2. Tulsa
46. 1. Old Dominion
51. 6. Iona
54. 5. Green Bay
57. 1. Richmond
58. 3. Louisiana Tech
59. 2. Stanford
62. 3. Murray State
64. 4. Illinois State
65. 2. Miami (FL)
66. 3. Rhode Island
67. 2. Texas A&M
68. 4. St. Mary's (CA)
71. 6. Central Michigan
73. 3. Illinois
74. 4. Connecticut
76. 7. UC Davis
77. 4. Pittsburgh
84. 6. Alabama
85. 5. George Washington
91. 8. South Dakota State
93. 7. William & Mary
102. 5. Arizona St.
104. 5. Vanderbilt
128. 7. NC Central
138. 8. Bucknell
145. 7. Montana
165. 8. Charleston Southern
170. 8. St. Francis (NY)

Going by the (nearly worthless) RPI, SDSU should have been the last 6 seed, not an 8 seed.

But, by the same lame RPI index, the teams who were really hosed by the selection committee were Iona and Green Bay.

Might do it with a better index than RPI, but the NIT seeding is obviously a magical mystery tour of some kind.

[rabidrabbit]

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If Jacks are on, and win the first game, chances for additional wins spring up. Starting with the best rpi team in the NIT! Good grief.

[GopherHole]

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So what are the odds that CSU has its best season ever, yet loses it final two games to SDSU? San Diego State bounced CSU in their conference tourney. I actually think the odds are pretty fair that they end their season this way.

[bigticket1]

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They beat Denver by 1 in December. An 85-84 game. Sounds like a lot of points for Denver to be scoring

They must not be a great defensive team. And they only won by 5 at Utah State who the Jacks beat by 3 in one of George Marshall's first games.

[GopherHole]

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It's interesting when you look at their roster. They basically run 7 deep with those players averaging 20+ minutes per game. Of the 7, six started their careers elsewhere. Coach Eustaschy did a heck of a job molding this 7 together as they started the season 15-0.

I think we match up well except they have one more athletic big than we do. Reed has done an amazing job rebounding this season as an undersized 4. He is going to have his work cut out going up some bigger/stronger players.

CSU's top scorer/rebounder and arguably best defender is 6'8" 250. I'm guessing Cody will get matched up against him. That will likely leave Reed defending a RS Senior who is 6'8" 225, leads CSU in blocks, 2nd in scoring, and 3rd in rebounding. Their team rebounds well as they are +6.0 on the boards this year. It should be a wide open game as they average 72.1 points/game.

[bigticket1]

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It's interesting when you look at their roster. They basically run 7 deep with those players averaging 20+ minutes per game. Of the 7, six started their careers elsewhere. Coach Eustaschy did a heck of a job molding this 7 together as they started the season 15-0.

I think we match up well except they have one more athletic big than we do. Reed has done an amazing job rebounding this season as an undersized 4. He is going to have his work cut out going up some bigger/stronger players.

CSU's top scorer/rebounder and arguably best defender is 6'8" 250. I'm guessing Cody will get matched up against him. That will likely leave Reed defending a RS Senior who is 6'8" 225, leads CSU in blocks, 2nd in scoring, and 3rd in rebounding. Their team rebounds well as they are +6.0 on the boards this year. It should be a wide open game as they average 72.1 points/game.

If we are lucky , Avila's ankle will not be back to 100 %.

[Nidaros]

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Coach Eustaschy. Now that's a name I have not seen for a while. He was at Iowa State maybe 10 years ago.

[zooropa]

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A little surprised that Montana is a 7 seed and we are an 8 seed. Jacks' RPI is #94 while Montana's is #134.

Why are you surprised?




SDSU has appeared in 13 NCAA sponsored MBB, WBB and FB tournaments. They have gotten screwed 12 times. They're going to get screwed a thirteenth time tomorrow night.

Why are *any* of us *ever* surprised when SDSU gets screwed? Ever?

On point for this exact instance of screwing over: Montana was given the same seed as SDSU in the NCAAs in 2013. You know. The year that SDSU beat #3 seed New Mexico and Montana didn't beat anybody at all. Montana got a HIGHER seed than SDSU in the 2012 NCAAs.

[SoDakJack]

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The NIT Field, in RPI order (RPI as of Saturday, Mar. 14)

RPI, NIT seed, and Team name
30. 1. Colorado State
34. 1. Temple
45. 2. Tulsa
46. 1. Old Dominion
51. 6. Iona
54. 5. Green Bay
57. 1. Richmond
58. 3. Louisiana Tech
59. 2. Stanford
62. 3. Murray State
64. 4. Illinois State
65. 2. Miami (FL)
66. 3. Rhode Island
67. 2. Texas A&M
68. 4. St. Mary's (CA)
71. 6. Central Michigan
73. 3. Illinois
74. 4. Connecticut
76. 7. UC Davis
77. 4. Pittsburgh
84. 6. Alabama
85. 5. George Washington
91. 8. South Dakota State
93. 7. William & Mary
102. 5. Arizona St.
104. 5. Vanderbilt
128. 7. NC Central
138. 8. Bucknell
145. 7. Montana
165. 8. Charleston Southern
170. 8. St. Francis (NY)

Going by the (nearly worthless) RPI, SDSU should have been the last 6 seed, not an 8 seed.

But, by the same lame RPI index, the teams who were really hosed by the selection committee were Iona and Green Bay.

Might do it with a better index than RPI, but the NIT seeding is obviously a magical mystery tour of some kind.

The RPI index is worthless. So much so much so in fact the NCAA does not use it to rank tournament teams. We all should stop referencing it as a way to judge a team getting "hosed."

[bigticket1]

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The RPI index is worthless. So much so much so in fact the NCAA does not use it to rank tournament teams. We all should stop referencing it as a way to judge a team getting "hosed."

Would probably make more sense to use RPI as a part of the equation rather than the "eye test" that the selection committee chairman referred to many times last night.

[filbert]

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Let's throw the Sagarin (Thu Mar 12) rating out there and see how it comes out:

Sagarin, RPI, NIT seed, and Team name
39. 65. 2. Miami (FL)
47. 73. 3. Illinois
48. 59. 2. Stanford
55. 30. 1. Colorado State
56. 67. 2. Texas A&M
57. 104. 5. Vanderbilt
58. 68. 4. St. Mary's (CA)
59. 66. 3. Rhode Island
60. 84. 6. Alabama
61. 46. 1. Old Dominion
63. 45. 2. Tulsa
65. 57. 1. Richmond
66. 85. 5. George Washington
69. 34. 1. Temple
70. 102. 5. Arizona St.
73. 62. 3. Murray State
74. 77. 4. Pittsburgh
75. 58. 3. Louisiana Tech
76. 54. 5. Green Bay
77. 74. 4. Connecticut
78. 64. 4. Illinois State
81. 71. 6. Central Michigan
98. 76. 7. UC Davis
100. 51. 6. Iona
105. 128. 7. NC Central
115. 93. 7. William & Mary
117. 91. 8. South Dakota State
162. 145. 7. Montana
163. 170. 8. St. Francis (NY)
194. 138. 8. Bucknell
201. 165. 8. Charleston Southern

According to Sagarin, looks to me that Vandy and Alabama get the biggest hose.

One way or another, it'll shake out on the courts, not in the computers.