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  • #31
    Re: GDT: SDSU Jackrabbits vs Oral Roberts Golden Eagles

    Originally posted by Nidaros View Post
    Looking at the ORU message board, most of the posters are very quite. One comment suggested that SDSU if they sail through the SLT will be a 16 seed and will finish their season where ever we are assigned to play. I like our team and am proud of the success they have had, but its hard to argue with sixteen seed and one and done notion. All you have to do is flip the channel to ESPN and watch other teams which we could meet and you wonder: Could we stay within 10 pts. and how remote is an upset? This particular poster did not think we were as good as last years NDSU team.

    Nothing like raining on a parade.
    This SDSU team has the potential to be really good....possibly the best ever. The problem is we haven't had this team the whole year. It took us awhile to get our rhythm with George. Cost us a game or three we probably win. Also could cost us a seed line.

    That being said said, this team can compete with some of the better teams in the country. Maybe not night in night out but in one game winner takes all we have a shot.

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    • #32
      Re: GDT: SDSU Jackrabbits vs Oral Roberts Golden Eagles

      Originally posted by jackrabbit1979 View Post
      I'm glad the athletic department has started posting the post-game presser video with the transition happening at the Argus. However, I will say I miss hearing the comments from the opposing coach. I used to enjoy that part of Terry's videos almost more than hearing from Nagy or AJ and it allowed us to get a sense of the other personalities in the league.
      I think that went away even when Terry was around. Didn't something change where visiting coaches are no longer required to attend the postgame presser?
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      • #33
        Re: GDT: SDSU Jackrabbits vs Oral Roberts Golden Eagles

        Originally posted by filbert View Post
        According to Sagarin's rankings, ten conferences have their strongest team ranked lower than SDSU.

        That does not in any possible, conceivable scenario work out to a sixteen seed for SDSU.

        Turning to the NCAA's darling rating system, the RPI, SDSU's RPI, as of last Sunday, was 96. (Higher than Sagarin's rating of SDSU of 113, by the way.) If SDSU wins the SL tournament, the RPI will inevitably finish right around 100. Teams with RPIs around 100 do not become sixteen-seeds. Conference champions with RPIs greater than around 140-150 become 16-seeds.

        I conclude that the ORU message board poster you reference is woefully ignorant of the current state of college basketball. It is entirely possible that they the poster may have consumed some exceedingly sour grapes this evening.

        SDSU will be a dangerous team if the Jacks make it to the NCAA's because of decent guard play and 3-point shooting capability from multiple players. A first-round upset win is obviously a long-shot but based on the past few years, it is certainly not impossible.
        Same poster that years ago concluded SDSU was racist because of a lack of african american players. Also the same poster that a few weeks ago insisted Cody Larson is a mere pedestrian in a basketball uniform, and basically insisted that if ORU can't handle him, its not because of talent on our end, but lack of talent on their end.

        Yeah, do yourself a favor and take his comments with a grain of salt.
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        • #34
          Re: GDT: SDSU Jackrabbits vs Oral Roberts Golden Eagles

          Originally posted by RowdyRabbit View Post
          Same poster that years ago concluded SDSU was racist because of a lack of african american players. Also the same poster that a few weeks ago insisted Cody Larson is a mere pedestrian in a basketball uniform, and basically insisted that if ORU can't handle him, its not because of talent on our end, but lack of talent on their end.

          Yeah, do yourself a favor and take his comments with a grain of salt.
          Are you talking about his epic Great White North rant? If so that was a classic.

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          • #35
            Re: GDT: SDSU Jackrabbits vs Oral Roberts Golden Eagles

            Originally posted by FargoBison View Post
            Are you talking about his epic Great White North rant? If so that was a classic.
            That'd be the one!
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            • #36
              Re: GDT: SDSU Jackrabbits vs Oral Roberts Golden Eagles

              Looks like I am going to take JackDaniel's place in the barrel. I knew this would generate some opinions and facts. I have not paid any attention to RPI's Sagarin's ratings or any of that stuff. I confess my wrong doings and re-track my post. I could just delete it but it would totally confuse late readers. I don't want to suffer the abuse that JackDaniel did about Matt Zimmer. It was not Old Titan and his rant about too many white players or anything else. I think they were suffering a real melt down from a 30 pt. loss and I would not be happy either if the Jacks took that kind of a beating. Losing in Fargo was painful enough. Hopefully we will advance to the third round or further this year. That would be great for SDSU and the SL.

              BTW I was curious about the moniker Old Titans and from 1965 to 1993 they known as the ORU Titans.

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              • #37
                GDT: SDSU Jackrabbits vs Oral Roberts Golden Eagles

                That might be the most dominant conference win I've ever seen in person. It was over before it started. Defense, shooting, slashing and rebounding were all running smoothly. Complete game. That kind of effort in Sioux Falls earns the team a trip to the NCAA's.

                I liked Theissen's game - possibly his best yet. He's aggressive offensively and handled his defensive assignment well. That guy is probably the key piece to next year's puzzle. Last night was promising.

                The opponent has huge problems when Parks and Marshall are both hot at the same time. Where would we be with out those guys? the coaching staff needs HUGE credit for finding and attracting them. The best part is that we get a full season with them side by side next year. Nagy's prediction of a three-part season this year was dead on. This is a very different team than the one that took the court in the Pentagon in November.

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                • #38
                  Re: GDT: SDSU Jackrabbits vs Oral Roberts Golden Eagles

                  The defense must not be overlooked as this Jackrabbit team moves to the end of the season. ORU scored 52 points. The average in Summit road games is 69 for the Golden Eagles. They average 75 in their 6 home games. There were 9 steals for the Jackrabbits in this game. At least 2 of those was Emegano being stripped of the ball 20 feet from the basket. That is sticky defense. Emegano and Billbury are the leading scorers for ORU averaging 31.7 points together. They scored 6 points in Brookings. That is the 3-12 shooting allowed. That is about half of the shots they normally shoot per game. This is Good Stuff for the Jackrabbit defense.
                  Best to remember these are kids and they are doing everything they can to entertain us, be scholars, and all in all be great humans. Jackedforlife

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                  • #39
                    Re: GDT: SDSU Jackrabbits vs Oral Roberts Golden Eagles

                    Originally posted by filbert View Post
                    According to Sagarin's rankings, ten conferences have their strongest team ranked lower than SDSU.

                    That does not in any possible, conceivable scenario work out to a sixteen seed for SDSU.

                    Turning to the NCAA's darling rating system, the RPI, SDSU's RPI, as of last Sunday, was 96. (Higher than Sagarin's rating of SDSU of 113, by the way.) If SDSU wins the SL tournament, the RPI will inevitably finish right around 100. Teams with RPIs around 100 do not become sixteen-seeds. Conference champions with RPIs greater than around 140-150 become 16-seeds.

                    I conclude that the ORU message board poster you reference is woefully ignorant of the current state of college basketball. It is entirely possible that they the poster may have consumed some exceedingly sour grapes this evening.

                    SDSU will be a dangerous team if the Jacks make it to the NCAA's because of decent guard play and 3-point shooting capability from multiple players. A first-round upset win is obviously a long-shot but based on the past few years, it is certainly not impossible.
                    I agree SDSU is no where near a 16 seed. Jacks current RPI is 88 and is projected to be 83 with a win against that one team Saturday. While 3 wins at a neutral site in the SLT probably won't move the RPI needle much,it will probably be around 75.

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                    • #40
                      Re: GDT: SDSU Jackrabbits vs Oral Roberts Golden Eagles

                      According to ORU fan board: Worst ORU conference loss of Sutton era. Tied for worst ORU conference loss overall.
                      Holy nutmeg!

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                      • #41
                        Re: GDT: SDSU Jackrabbits vs Oral Roberts Golden Eagles

                        Somebody posted Sutton's comments on the ORU board. This is a link to an mp3 on Dropbox.

                        https://t.co/8g1nSlEc0Q
                        Holy nutmeg!

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                        • #42
                          Re: GDT: SDSU Jackrabbits vs Oral Roberts Golden Eagles

                          Here's the Tulsa World's story, also noting worst conference loss in the Scott Sutton era:

                          http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextr...3a7eeefda.html

                          I was sitting with a college buddy who knows basketball (very good player for the Jacks back in the day). Early in the butt-kicking, I commented to my buddy that the ORU players clearly had some athletic ability; their post, #44, although a freshman, is a player; Egemo averaged 17.5 pts per game prior to yesterday; Scott Sutton is a good coach -- So what the heck was happening? At that point the Jacks couldn't miss (shooting percentage in the 70s) and we were getting tough rebounds and controlling turnovers...we were on a roll. Coach Sutton is somewhat of a sideline pacer and but he spent most of this game sitting in his chair.

                          It all made me wonder if there's a side story. The ORU players just lost heart early in the contest. Somebody put their pet dog down?

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                          • #43
                            Re: GDT: SDSU Jackrabbits vs Oral Roberts Golden Eagles

                            Originally posted by JackJD View Post
                            Here's the Tulsa World's story, also noting worst conference loss in the Scott Sutton era:

                            http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextr...3a7eeefda.html

                            I was sitting with a college buddy who knows basketball (very good player for the Jacks back in the day). Early in the butt-kicking, I commented to my buddy that the ORU players clearly had some athletic ability; their post, #44, although a freshman, is a player; Egemo averaged 17.5 pts per game prior to yesterday; Scott Sutton is a good coach -- So what the heck was happening? At that point the Jacks couldn't miss (shooting percentage in the 70s) and we were getting tough rebounds and controlling turnovers...we were on a roll. Coach Sutton is somewhat of a sideline pacer and but he spent most of this game sitting in his chair.

                            It all made me wonder if there's a side story. The ORU players just lost heart early in the contest. Somebody put their pet dog down?
                            Yes old Shep went down a 7:01 PM CST.

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                            • #44
                              Re: GDT: SDSU Jackrabbits vs Oral Roberts Golden Eagles

                              Maybe being in the Southland a couple of years made them soft.

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                              • #45
                                Re: GDT: SDSU Jackrabbits vs Oral Roberts Golden Eagles

                                Originally posted by JackJD View Post
                                Here's the Tulsa World's story, also noting worst conference loss in the Scott Sutton era:

                                http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextr...3a7eeefda.html

                                I was sitting with a college buddy who knows basketball (very good player for the Jacks back in the day). Early in the butt-kicking, I commented to my buddy that the ORU players clearly had some athletic ability; their post, #44, although a freshman, is a player; Egemo averaged 17.5 pts per game prior to yesterday; Scott Sutton is a good coach -- So what the heck was happening? At that point the Jacks couldn't miss (shooting percentage in the 70s) and we were getting tough rebounds and controlling turnovers...we were on a roll. Coach Sutton is somewhat of a sideline pacer and but he spent most of this game sitting in his chair.

                                It all made me wonder if there's a side story. The ORU players just lost heart early in the contest. Somebody put their pet dog down?
                                I agree with some of this--the Golden Eagles played like a team that internally has Something Going On inside the team chemistry. Something not good.
                                "I think we'll be OK"

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