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  • SteelSD
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    Originally posted by bigticket1 View Post
    This addition will allow Nagy to go back to a more "traditional" type line-up next year. Daum can move to a Dykstra-type 4 where he can be a beast and Telly can move to the 3 where he can provide big match-up problems for a lot of teams. Now if a JUCO guard could be added who can step right in and provide minutes next season, it could be an interesting group with Gentry and Dykman also coming into the mix.
    So general thoughts on next years rotation:

    1- Gentry, new player, Brown (is he a PG?)
    2- King, Tellinghuisen, Flatten, new player
    3- Tellinghuisen, Severyn, Flatten
    4- Daum, Severyn, Dykman,
    5- Theisen, Devin, Doyle, Vollbrecht (probable RS?)

    Based off the little pre-season work I saw, Gentry looks more like the facilitator and less the scorer. Not based off much I know... I know nothing of Brown.

    King seems like such a tweener to me, the size of a 2 guard with the game of a small/power forward (reminds me a bit of T. Prince). Makes me wonder that if Flatten or Severyn really step up, could we shift Telly to a shooting guard?

    Flatten is a little bigger and slight more athletic than Telly, but he is not the hardest worker on D (at least yet). Severyn is another guy who seems stuck between positions. The size of a 3 with more of a stretch 4 kind of game. I didn't see much growth in his game from last year, so worried about him. I haven't really seen enough of Dykman to know much, but I'm hoping he provides solid back-up production at the 4.

    Seem like we have a group of role players at the 5. Personally thought Devine outplayed Theisen at the end of the season, but really neither is a strong point.

    My random thoughts anyway.

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  • RabbitObsessed
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    Originally posted by MontanaRabbit View Post
    He had an impressive dunk in the SLT two years ago. Think it was in the semis and the game wasn't all that close at the time. Other than that I also don't remember him getting many minutes.

    He very well could be a key piece next year but assuming he's one is a stretch especially if you consider he hasn't been the most durable guy on the team.
    I remember him playing. And I like his game. I just don't remember him playing point guard like the previous poster I quoted said.

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  • MontanaRabbit
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    Originally posted by goon View Post
    I think of him in the dale moss model. Great athlete can do impressive thigns like that dunk. But feel Flattens defense is lacking a bit. I would think him more of a slasher scorer type athletic shooting guard. I usually perfer my shooting guards to be really really good shooters, like a clint sargent. Sometimes i like having the SF or the 3 spot to be more of a slasher and scorer type but can hopefully still shoot the 3 respectibly. Plus if his knees arent going to be healthy it might take away his explosive and athletic sytle of play. Hope he is able to really contribute this coming year though.
    Pretty detailed analysis of a guy that's only been on the floor 304 minutes in his SDSU career.

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  • goon
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    Originally posted by MontanaRabbit View Post
    He had an impressive dunk in the SLT two years ago. Think it was in the semis and the game wasn't all that close at the time. Other than that I also don't remember him getting many minutes.

    He very well could be a key piece next year but assuming he's one is a stretch especially if you consider he hasn't been the most durable guy on the team.
    I think of him in the dale moss model. Great athlete can do impressive thigns like that dunk. But feel Flattens defense is lacking a bit. I would think him more of a slasher scorer type athletic shooting guard. I usually perfer my shooting guards to be really really good shooters, like a clint sargent. Sometimes i like having the SF or the 3 spot to be more of a slasher and scorer type but can hopefully still shoot the 3 respectibly. Plus if his knees arent going to be healthy it might take away his explosive and athletic sytle of play. Hope he is able to really contribute this coming year though.

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  • MontanaRabbit
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    Originally posted by RabbitObsessed View Post
    Maybe it's my lack of memory, but I don't remember Flatten playing any point two years ago.
    He had an impressive dunk in the SLT two years ago. Think it was in the semis and the game wasn't all that close at the time. Other than that I also don't remember him getting many minutes.

    He very well could be a key piece next year but assuming he's one is a stretch especially if you consider he hasn't been the most durable guy on the team.

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  • RabbitObsessed
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    Maybe it's my lack of memory, but I don't remember Flatten playing any point two years ago.

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  • MNJack3
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    Originally posted by 91jack View Post
    I really think that Gentry will be that good next year, too. I just don't know what we have after him.
    Can King play the PG spot?

    Of course that depends on on what we get from Flatten and Dykman. I could see any of those 4 play the SF spot. It would be nice if Flatten and/or Dykman can play the SG spot.
    I was able to catch a practice this season and noticed a few things about Gentry & Dykman. Gentry is very shifty and crafty...has a nice floater...but seems to lack an outside shot. He'll need to be somewhat of a threat from deep so opponents don't sag off of him. In terms of Dykman, he's not a guard what so ever. He has a "Tony Fiegen" type game. Active and athletic, decent mid-range, he'll back up at the 4 spot for the next couple of years.

    If we don't land a Grad-Transfer guard I would expect Tevin & Skyler to back up Gentry at the PG spot. King played a little bit at the position this year and Skyler played a little PG last year.

    Spoke with a team Staff member earlier this year and the coaches are very high on a couple of 2017 Guards from Minnesota so I don't see them bringing in a Freshman guard this spring. A Grad-Transfer would be best case scenario at this point.

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  • RabbitObsessed
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    Could he be used as a Telly type player, that is more of a natural 3 that ends up playing the 4? I haven't seen him play, but based on Nagy's quote, that doesn't seem likely.

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  • bigticket1
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    Originally posted by Kemo View Post
    That's interesting because his athleticism is that of a 3 vertically, but maybe he doesn't have the lateral movement to guard the 3 or take a 3 off the dribble.
    He looks like he has a pretty thick body, so he might not be able to guard on the perimeter.

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  • Kemo
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    Originally posted by bigticket1 View Post
    The topic of Dykman's best position came up in Zimmer's chat yesterday. He said Nagy told him that he is a 4, and wasn't sure if he could even play the 3. Which seems odd since they have listed him as a guard all year in the programs.
    That's interesting because his athleticism is that of a 3 vertically, but maybe he doesn't have the lateral movement to guard the 3 or take a 3 off the dribble.

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  • bigticket1
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    Originally posted by 91jack View Post
    I really think that Gentry will be that good next year, too. I just don't know what we have after him.
    Can King play the PG spot? He can play the SG spot but he hasn't shown much of an outside shot, yet.
    I don't think we will have much of a problem with the SF, PF and C spots. I know not many people want to be listed as a C but you could call the the 3, 4 and 5 spots. You could move Reed, or Lane down the the SF spot. Of course that depends on on what we get from Flatten and Dykman. I could see any of those 4 play the SF spot. It would be nice if Flatten and/or Dykman can play the SG spot.
    We will have a team more like we did a couple of years ago when we had a 6'4" PG and not many players under that that played. We only have Gentry, Brown and King under 6'4" on the roster right now. I know we will get one or two more players under that but other then Gentry, I don't see many players that can play the PG spot.
    Anyway, this has nothing to do with 2016 Recruits so I will leave it at that so we can get back on topic.
    The topic of Dykman's best position came up in Zimmer's chat yesterday. He said Nagy told him that he is a 4, and wasn't sure if he could even play the 3. Which seems odd since they have listed him as a guard all year in the programs.

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  • Carolina010
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    Originally posted by Kemo View Post
    I'm almost positive we were recruiting Latulip out of high school, so the coaches should be aware of him.
    You are correct. I just looked back at the 2012 recruiting thread it says that we offered him coming out of high school, but he accepted a preferred walk-on spot at Illinois. This can only help us if we are in fact looking at him now. With Nagy having ties to that program and already recruiting and offering him a scholarship once, maybe there is still a little connection their.

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  • Kemo
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    Originally posted by Carolina010 View Post
    Just doing a quick check of Big Ten rosters there is really only one name that stands out. Mike Latulip out of Illinois. In is bio it said he red-shirted this year so that he could save one year of eligibility and transfer somewhere as a graduate student. He was only a walk on there and didn't play more than a couple minutes a season but her appear to be pretty good coming out of high school where he averaged 22 points and 4 assists as senior. he was selected 2nd and 3rd team all-state as a senior. Here is a link to his bio on the Illinois athletics page. http://www.fightingillini.com/roster...35&path=mbball
    I'm almost positive we were recruiting Latulip out of high school, so the coaches should be aware of him.

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  • 91jack
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    Originally posted by OldHare View Post
    Gentry could be one of those critical links next year. He may have been ready to play this year if the team was short on guards. I am not indicating there is not a greater need for more point guard talent, but I would not dismiss this young man's talent to contend for freshman of the year in 2016-17.
    I really think that Gentry will be that good next year, too. I just don't know what we have after him.
    Can King play the PG spot? He can play the SG spot but he hasn't shown much of an outside shot, yet.
    I don't think we will have much of a problem with the SF, PF and C spots. I know not many people want to be listed as a C but you could call the the 3, 4 and 5 spots. You could move Reed, or Lane down the the SF spot. Of course that depends on on what we get from Flatten and Dykman. I could see any of those 4 play the SF spot. It would be nice if Flatten and/or Dykman can play the SG spot.
    We will have a team more like we did a couple of years ago when we had a 6'4" PG and not many players under that that played. We only have Gentry, Brown and King under 6'4" on the roster right now. I know we will get one or two more players under that but other then Gentry, I don't see many players that can play the PG spot.
    Anyway, this has nothing to do with 2016 Recruits so I will leave it at that so we can get back on topic.

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  • OldHare
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    Originally posted by MrAugustana View Post
    I know Moffitt played hard for you guys and filled an important role and most people on here seem to adore him, but if you're looking for a transfer who can impact the team immediately, you need the aforementioend "hot prospect or even a George Marshall" more than a Moffitt-esque player. It would be a shame to let even a single year of Daum's career pass by with guards who can't be immediate difference-makers.

    Unless I missed something, it appears Daum is the only freshman to make 1st Team All-Conference as far back as the 2008-09 season (which is as far back as I cared to dig in the archives), and one of only three underclassmen to be make the 1st Team since 2010-11 (sophomores Nate Wolters in 2010-11 and Taylor Braun in 2011-12 being the other two). Obviously a big part of that is simply which teams have good upperclassmen and whatnot--meaning maybe there weren't as many good upperclassmen this year as there have been in past years--but I don't know if I'd necessarily call this a "down year" for the Summit League by any means. I think Daum is just really good.

    In terms of All-Conference teams (which, admittedly, is the only statistical base I'm working off of here) Daum seems to be somewhat of a rare talent for the Summit League and it would be a shame for his talents to be squandered as the result of a rebuilding year in the backcourt. For Jacks fans' sake, I'd hope Nagy and staff find a Marshall-esque talent or at least one of the young guards makes a pretty substantial jump over the summer. Of course, the transfer thing is easier said than done, but I would think SDSU should be an appealing landing spot for transfers, particularly with Nagy proving they can succeed in Brookings and the guards themselves recognizing they'd be paired with a big man of Daum's caliber right out of the gate.

    Or maybe the younger guards are more ready than I realized and all my rambling is for naught. That is quite often the case. I just think if the best option anyone has come up with so far is a player comparable to Moffitt, the staff should aim slightly higher (sorry, sorry, I know you guys love Moffitt...just looking at this from an outsider's perspective).

    Anyway, thanks for humoring me. I'm a little anxious about tonight's Augie game and needed to ramble a little bit.
    Gentry could be one of those critical links next year. He may have been ready to play this year if the team was short on guards. I am not indicating there is not a greater need for more point guard talent, but I would not dismiss this young man's talent to contend for freshman of the year in 2016-17.

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