2016 Recruits

[jackmd]

Re: 2016 Recruits

I wonder if this would be a possibility for a Big Ten grad transfer? Looking for immediate and significant playing time available at the guard position (Check), a winning program (Check), and a chance to play in the postseason (Check). No mention of specific transfer destinations or if he'd prefer to stay at high major school, so only speculation at this point...

http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/inde...ve_michig.html

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...chigan-release

This would be fantastic!! Never say never.

[NebraskaJack]

Re: 2016 Recruits

Maybe the same thing they saw when Nate Wolters was on the verge of committing to Augustana and decided on SDSU in the eleventh hour of his recruitment?

(To be clear, not saying this kid would or wouldn't be that good...I haven't watched the film and am not particularly interested in watching it... I'm just saying, this staff has a decent track record, unless Wolters is simply an anomaly/outlier.)

Dont get me wrong, there is a reason I haven't commented on his skill set. I am not a judge of athletic talent. We have a local kid here that I swear could play at the mid-major level but has no offers so that goes to show what I know.

[MrAugustana]

Re: 2016 Recruits

After a little research he definitely plays against a much higher level of competition than most high school kids. It said their schedule was made up of prep schools and small colleges. I saw last year that his team was in the same tournament as Tevin King although they didn't play each other. Maybe Tevin had some insight for the coaches.

The one thing that makes me curious though, is that his team gets a ton of exposure when they play in these prep team tournaments cuz there is a ton of D-1 recruits in those affairs.....out of 300 plus D-1 schools, what does our coaches see that no one else appears to?

Maybe the same thing they saw when Nate Wolters was on the verge of committing to Augustana and decided on SDSU in the eleventh hour of his recruitment?

(To be clear, not saying this kid would or wouldn't be that good...I haven't watched the film and am not particularly interested in watching it... I'm just saying, this staff has a decent track record, unless Wolters is simply an anomaly/outlier.)

[jackrabbit1979]

Re: 2016 Recruits

I wonder if this would be a possibility for a Big Ten grad transfer? Looking for immediate and significant playing time available at the guard position (Check), a winning program (Check), and a chance to play in the postseason (Check). No mention of specific transfer destinations or if he'd prefer to stay at high major school, so only speculation at this point...

http://www.mlive.com/wolverines/inde...ve_michig.html

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...chigan-release

[NebraskaJack]

Re: 2016 Recruits

After a little research he definitely plays against a much higher level of competition than most high school kids. It said their schedule was made up of prep schools and small colleges. I saw last year that his team was in the same tournament as Tevin King although they didn't play each other. Maybe Tevin had some insight for the coaches.

The one thing that makes me curious though, is that his team gets a ton of exposure when they play in these prep team tournaments cuz there is a ton of D-1 recruits in those affairs.....out of 300 plus D-1 schools, what does our coaches see that no one else appears to?

[CappinHard]

Re: 2016 Recruits

It always amazes me how some of us are able to better evaluate a recruit based on a 3 minute video than our coaches are able to do based on in-person observations, recommendations from coaches, meetings etc. After all, the coaches of the top three sports have only been able to make the playoffs 15 times in 24 tries since we became eligible in DI (7 for women's basketball, 5 for football and 3 for men's basketball). I sure wished they had the knowledge to observe quickness/speed, athleticism, heart, etc. That way new recruits who happened to come on this board to read about their future home wouldn't see themselves being dissed before they ever set foot on the court.

No one said they're better at evaluating recruits than our coaches, we're just providing opinions. Do you really want us to sit here and blow sunshine up recruits a$$e$? If a recruit has thin enough skin to let some random guys on a message board get to them, he probably isn't going to succeed anyway. A good recruit would use it as motivation to get faster/stronger and prove those people wrong.

Back to this guy, I'm biased because I watched him all year but I would take Ty Hoglund from Dell Rapids over this guy any day. If Ty grows an inch or two after high school (which is very possible, his dad did), I could see him as a potential future transfer from DWU.

[Rabbit74]

Re: 2016 Recruits

It always amazes me how some of us are able to better evaluate a recruit based on a 3 minute video than our coaches are able to do based on in-person observations, recommendations from coaches, meetings etc. After all, the coaches of the top three sports have only been able to make the playoffs 15 times in 24 tries since we became eligible in DI (7 for women's basketball, 5 for football and 3 for men's basketball). I sure wished they had the knowledge to observe quickness/speed, athleticism, heart, etc. That way new recruits who happened to come on this board to read about their future home wouldn't see themselves being dissed before they ever set foot on the court.

[goon]

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I'm sure you're being facetious with "ymca B league" comment, but I can assure you the competition he is playing with/against would better than most of the top high school teams in the state of SD.

The kids on these national prep school basketball teams are generally already a year out of high school and they are there specifically to play basketball, either because of grades or to display their talents against a higher level of competition.

Maybe a little but its hard to take away a 4 minute high light video how good someone is or isn't or how athletic.

[Jacks-02]

Re: 2016 Recruits

Not overly impressed with his athleticism either, but we've had other guards like Moffit and Bittle that weren't overly athletic and have contributed in recent years.

[Kemo]

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He lookes like a poor mans nate wolters tearing up the local ymca B league. He is a little crafty and floated midrange pull up jumpers. Didn't see a lot of 3s. But in the high lights was good shifty driving in. Seemed a bit slow and hard to tell how the defense really is with out watching entire games.

I'm sure you're being facetious with "ymca B league" comment, but I can assure you the competition he is playing with/against would better than most of the top high school teams in the state of SD.

The kids on these national prep school basketball teams are generally already a year out of high school and they are there specifically to play basketball, either because of grades or to display their talents against a higher level of competition.

[JACKGUYII]

Re: 2016 Recruits

Would this guy be in addition to a juco or grad transfer?

[goon]

Re: 2016 Recruits

He lookes like a poor mans nate wolters tearing up the local ymca B league. He is a little crafty and floated midrange pull up jumpers. Didn't see a lot of 3s. But in the high lights was good shifty driving in. Seemed a bit slow and hard to tell how the defense really is with out watching entire games.

[Kemo]

Re: 2016 Recruits

This is the exact same thing I thought when I watched it. At times he didn't look like he was very quick but he could get to the basket, so maybe its because he is 6'4" and doesn't seem to be moving that quick but can cover a lot of ground quickly. But my first thought was not that he is going to come in and take control right away. When I watch a highlight video of a someone I expect them to completely standout and wow you but this video didn't do it for me.

This video displays his athleticism a little more:

I know the gyms aren't much, but the competition is usually there for these prep school kids. Kid looks like a glider to me (he's 6'4"), so he is probably quicker and faster than some are giving him credit for (plus, to reiterate, the competition he is facing is of a high caliber).

[Carolina010]

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At first glance he seems a bit slow/clunky to me. Hard to tell at times if the defense was bad or if he made them look bad.

This is the exact same thing I thought when I watched it. At times he didn't look like he was very quick but he could get to the basket, so maybe its because he is 6'4" and doesn't seem to be moving that quick but can cover a lot of ground quickly. But my first thought was not that he is going to come in and take control right away. When I watch a highlight video of a someone I expect them to completely standout and wow you but this video didn't do it for me.

[UWMandSDSU]

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At first glance he seems a bit slow/clunky to me. Hard to tell at times if the defense was bad or if he made them look bad. Also, I can't believe some of the gyms they were playing in. We have nicer gyms in our little podunk towns in SD. The gym around the 2 minute mark was literally a barn!

Gym at 2-minute mark looks like Summit's high school gym.
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