7 Man Rotation

[3ptJackrabbit]

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What I meant is the process of "rebuilding" roles etc. with WOlters gone. But I agree with what you are saying too.

[SoDakJack]

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I'm not worried about this season. I think we will get the W/L column straightened out by the end of the year.

Next year's inexperienced squad could make this year's issues look like kids stuff, though. Getting 8-9 guys consistent minutes would be HUGE for next year, and shouldn't negatively impact this years success.

I really expected Nagy and the staff to play as many guys as they could during the non-conference schedule to get the experience they will need for the "real" season.

You can see the talent that this team has, it is just putting it together that will take time. Hopefully as they play together they come together on defense.

[Kemo]

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The one thing that I'm disappointed in so far this season isn't the losses (I expected growing pains), but rather not seeing much of Devine and Donlan. Coach can't tell fans they are the most improved/talented players on the team and then go and not play them at all, especially when the team is struggling. I do wonder if Donlan's off-season injury is what's affecting his playing time?

[slosho]

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If people think this season is rough so far, wait until next year when we have 3 players with significant experience.

Larson
Bittle
Broman

That's it folks. I'd love to hear an argument otherwise.

At some point a fresh Horstman has to be better than a gassed Carlson or White for crying out loud. But Horstman played 14 minutes last night against Montana, you say. Yep, because Bittle was hurt. If Bittle was available, Horstman would have rode the pine just like he did at LMU and USD. And we still would have had a 7 man rotation.

Some may argue that we will be 8 or 9 deep later in the season. NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. We haven't had a deep rotation since the DII days, and its debatable that we had one then. We might as well face it: we aren't going to play more than 7 deep, regardless of personnel.

There is no reason for a short 7 man rotation this season, IMO.

Did Naggy make Wolters, or Did Wolters make Naggy? think about that long and hard. then discuss.

With Nate as an Inexperienced Freshman we did not have the best year, but who's to say that Wolters/Hansen wasn't the real talent that got us as far as we got? Perhaps even we underestimate the value of a great point guard that is a solid scoring (53 Pts) threat.

Edit: I'm not advocating that this is a fact, but how long until fire Naggy is back?

[witness]

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I guess the Ewing effect is not in place here then...

[rabbitfarmer]

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I agree with KEMO and SLOSHO. Does anyone ever watch Nagy on the sidelines? He always seems to have a terrible attitude and this is from watching him for the last 7 years. I think there is some correlation that goes along with Hansen and success. Granted Nate was around during Hansens time but thats because he brought Wolters here... Hansen was probably thinking Nagy is going to move-on and when that didn't happen he knew it was time for him to go.

There should be no reason why we aren't playing more than 7 guys. You will never get good unless you get gametime experience. Horstman has never impressed me but I think part of that is playing time. Sometimes it is good for the starters to sit their a$$ on the bench if they aren't playing well or are tired. With a good rotation their should be no reason why we couldn't play 8-9 guys. I believe Nagy talked that defense and playing fast was the goal but that cant happen when you have only 6 guys getting the majority of minutes.

I'm going to get hated, negative rep and people are going to say it is early.. I hope I have to eat my words, but I wish Nagy was gone and Hansen was the Coach.

[RabbitObsessed]

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I agree with KEMO and SLOSHO. Does anyone ever watch Nagy on the sidelines? He always seems to have a terrible attitude and this is from watching him for the last 7 years. I think there is some correlation that goes along with Hansen and success. Granted Nate was around during Hansens time but thats because he brought Wolters here... Hansen was probably thinking Nagy is going to move-on and when that didn't happen he knew it was time for him to go.

There should be no reason why we aren't playing more than 7 guys. You will never get good unless you get gametime experience. Horstman has never impressed me but I think part of that is playing time. Sometimes it is good for the starters to sit their a$$ on the bench if they aren't playing well or are tired. With a good rotation their should be no reason why we couldn't play 8-9 guys. I believe Nagy talked that defense and playing fast was the goal but that cant happen when you have only 6 guys getting the majority of minutes.

I'm going to get hated, negative rep and people are going to say it is early.. I hope I have to eat my words, but I wish Nagy was gone and Hansen was the Coach.

I'm glad you added that last sentence. I was reading the whole thing and had zero idea what your point was. The last sentence cleared it up. It's a dumb sentence, but at least I know what you're saying now.

[mitchellrabbit]

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I agree with KEMO and SLOSHO. Does anyone ever watch Nagy on the sidelines? He always seems to have a terrible attitude and this is from watching him for the last 7 years. I think there is some correlation that goes along with Hansen and success. Granted Nate was around during Hansens time but thats because he brought Wolters here... Hansen was probably thinking Nagy is going to move-on and when that didn't happen he knew it was time for him to go.

There should be no reason why we aren't playing more than 7 guys. You will never get good unless you get gametime experience. Horstman has never impressed me but I think part of that is playing time. Sometimes it is good for the starters to sit their a$$ on the bench if they aren't playing well or are tired. With a good rotation their should be no reason why we couldn't play 8-9 guys. I believe Nagy talked that defense and playing fast was the goal but that cant happen when you have only 6 guys getting the majority of minutes.

I'm going to get hated, negative rep and people are going to say it is early.. I hope I have to eat my words, but I wish Nagy was gone and Hansen was the Coach.

We've already seen your love for Hansen in other posts.
Oh, and hate for nagy

[SUPERBUNNY]

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I agree with KEMO and SLOSHO. Does anyone ever watch Nagy on the sidelines? He always seems to have a terrible attitude and this is from watching him for the last 7 years. I think there is some correlation that goes along with Hansen and success. Granted Nate was around during Hansens time but thats because he brought Wolters here... Hansen was probably thinking Nagy is going to move-on and when that didn't happen he knew it was time for him to go.

There should be no reason why we aren't playing more than 7 guys. You will never get good unless you get gametime experience. Horstman has never impressed me but I think part of that is playing time. Sometimes it is good for the starters to sit their a$$ on the bench if they aren't playing well or are tired. With a good rotation their should be no reason why we couldn't play 8-9 guys. I believe Nagy talked that defense and playing fast was the goal but that cant happen when you have only 6 guys getting the majority of minutes.

I'm going to get hated, negative rep and people are going to say it is early.. I hope I have to eat my words, but I wish Nagy was gone and Hansen was the Coach.

Wow, just wow! The old Hansen leaving is why we're struggling post?

I guess you have to give Hansen credit for getting Wolters here but that isn't exactly a reason to give the guy an endorsement to be our coach. We go to the NCAA tourney two years in a row and now you wish Hansen was our coach rather than Nagy? I'm frustrated too but that is a reach and a half. I've watched Nagy for all of his year's as a head coach and when he was hear as an assistant and he has been consistent since day one. He's also been pretty successful, he's a good man, his teams graduate players, and

You see Nagy as having a terrible attitude. I watch the coaches a lot and I have always wondered what Hansen does during the game. He never seems to say two words. Austin was a very good basketball player for sure. He wasn't much of a leader on the team when he played. Has anyone considered the fact that maybe, just maybe he wasn't much of a leader as a coach as well? Maybe, just maybe Austin saw that he didn't have a future here and decided to move on? Who cares? He left! He's gone. Best of luck to him at wherever he went.

I don't know what went down. Only Austin and the coaches know why he left. It's none of our damn business.

The only thing that matters for our team is what we do in conference play and even more, what we do in Sioux Falls in March. This is a rough patch for sure but I think the coaching staff has earned the right to have our support while they figure it out. I'm on the record many times as saying we will probably struggle early due to loss of Nate, Larson getting used to playing, and getting all of the players on the same page. It's been tougher than I expected so far. Still, my belief is that they will be a force come tournament time.

Ugh, we just need a win!!!

SUPERBUNNY

[JackJD]

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Rabbitfarmer: call your doctor, he has a bed waiting for you. Get back on your meds!

[Nidaros]

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I agree with KEMO and SLOSHO. Does anyone ever watch Nagy on the sidelines? He always seems to have a terrible attitude and this is from watching him for the last 7 years. I think there is some correlation that goes along with Hansen and success. Granted Nate was around during Hansens time but thats because he brought Wolters here... Hansen was probably thinking Nagy is going to move-on and when that didn't happen he knew it was time for him to go.

There should be no reason why we aren't playing more than 7 guys. You will never get good unless you get gametime experience. Horstman has never impressed me but I think part of that is playing time. Sometimes it is good for the starters to sit their a$$ on the bench if they aren't playing well or are tired. With a good rotation their should be no reason why we couldn't play 8-9 guys. I believe Nagy talked that defense and playing fast was the goal but that cant happen when you have only 6 guys getting the majority of minutes.

I'm going to get hated, negative rep and people are going to say it is early.. I hope I have to eat my words, but I wish Nagy was gone and Hansen was the Coach.

Maybe you are good at rabbit farming, but picking coaches you might be as good as Justin Sell. That is to say Austin Hansen is a good if not excellent coach. I understand UNC beat K-state. Hansen will get his chance if and when Nagy moves on. I will give you rep pts for broaching the topic. So no hate here, just disagreement.

[Nidaros]

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I don't know what went down. Only Austin and the coaches know why he left. It's none of our damn business.

I don't think there was any mystery cloud for Hansen's departure. The current HC at UNC is DJ Hill who was a grad assistant and got his degree at SDSU in 2001, which no doubt was very close to Hansen's playing career. This is probably an old acquaintance from way back. DJ Hill coached at one of the JUCO's in Iowa so no doubt Hansen/Hills path crossed many times in recruiting battles. The bottom line is that Hill needed an Assistant and had more cash to offer so Austin departed and no doubt on good terms with everyone at SDSU. I have never heard a negative about him so yes it is our business your negatives about Hansen as a player/coach are off base.

[jack power]

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I don't think there was any mystery cloud for Hansen's departure. The current HC at UNC is DJ Hill who was a grad assistant and got his degree at SDSU in 2001, which no doubt was very close to Hansen's playing career. This is probably an old acquaintance from way back. DJ Hill coached at one of the JUCO's in Iowa so no doubt Hansen/Hills path crossed many times in recruiting battles. The bottom line is that Hill needed an Assistant and had more cash to offer so Austin departed and no doubt on good terms with everyone at SDSU. I have never heard a negative about him so yes it is our business your negatives about Hansen as a player/coach are off base.

All i'll say on the subject is that this was a good deal for Austin and and a good deal for SDSU.

[Nidaros]

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All i'll say on the subject is that this was a good deal for Austin and and a good deal for SDSU.

Send me a PM, I obviously missed out on some thing juicy here.

[Theee Catrabbit]

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Edit: I'm not advocating that this is a fact, but how long until fire Naggy is back?

Oh...I thought that's what you all were doing here....."Thanks for the memories Coach.....now go **** yourself!"

Yes it's a rebuild year. I didn't think that much of Nate at first. Seemed to go alright. I didn't think of Bittle very much...seems he is going to be pretty good.....I don't think much of Anders Broman right now....let's hope my pattern holds.
I like this team. By the end of the year I think we'll be alright. We aren't Duke, just wanted everyone to know that, in case there is some confusion. Nagy is a long term coach who went through some of the darkest times in the university's athletic history and ended up delivering in the end. But, hey **** him, fire up the torches I say!