GDT: SDSU vs Montana

[YanktonJack7]

Re: GDT: SDSU vs Montana

Obviously our issue is our perimeter defense. The first four games of the season (including the exhibition), we have been scorched from deep. If it happens one night it might just be a guy having a great night, but four games in a row is a trend. Troubling.

Offense is too inconsistent. Seems like some of the guys are afraid to step up. During the final minute, Chad White had a good look at a 3 but hesitated and then shot it and missed it.

I also agree we need a good PG so that Carlson can play the 2. He's fouled out in every game so far.

[SoDakJack]

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I don't see how it's an excuse. It's just a statement of fact. We have been the suck so far without Nate. Fact. Everyone else needs to step up and no one is. I don't know how that's an excuse or "bury their heads in the sand" bull****. If anything, it's the opposite. It's coming to realize the fact that some of these guys aren't nearly as good as we thought they were when Nate was playing. That's tough to admit. Maybe it will be proven wrong throughout the year, but as of now, it's pretty apparent that this team isn't very good.

Mostly because Austin Hanson isn't there to coach them to shoot free throws. Probably nothing to do with the fact that the leading free throw shooter percentage-wise and volume-wise left. Who also happened to run the entire offense by himself leaving the rest of the players to catch and shoot and use their energy on defense. Don't think Nate could help them though.

*Buries head in sand*

Having the best player ever to put on an SDSU uniform arguably in any sport leave is devastating. But we don't have him to hide the weaknesses behind anymore. As great as he is, with perimeter defense the way it has been, he'd have had to put up 53 every night.

All I was trying to say was instead of focusing on the one thing that we'll probably never be able to replicate, we need to look at the things that are fixable now.

[discoDancinJackrabbit]

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Obviously our issue is our perimeter defense. The first four games of the season (including the exhibition), we have been scorched from deep. If it happens one night it might just be a guy having a great night, but four games in a row is a trend. Troubling.

Offense is too inconsistent. Seems like some of the guys are afraid to step up. During the final minute, Chad White had a good look at a 3 but hesitated and then shot it and missed it.

I also agree we need a good PG so that Carlson can play the 2. He's fouled out in every game so far.

lol. Yeah how do tell a guy to be faster than what he is ? Seriously. Who is going to be the point guard next year. Bittle or Broman, doesn't matter. Playing Carlson and even watching him for that matter is pointless imo.

[YanktonJack7]

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lol. Yeah how do tell a guy to be faster than what he is ? Seriously. Who is going to be the point guard next year. Bittle or Broman, doesn't matter. Playing Carlson and even watching him for that matter is pointless imo.

Hopefully Deondre Parks is a good as advertised and he can take over the PG. Maybe not right away, but eventually he should be the guy.

[discoDancinJackrabbit]

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Hopefully Deondre Parks is a good as advertised and he can take over the PG. Maybe not right away, but eventually he should be the guy.

Deondre Parks eh.. Why not.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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lol. Yeah how do tell a guy to be faster than what he is ? Seriously. Who is going to be the point guard next year. Bittle or Broman, doesn't matter. Playing Carlson and even watching him for that matter is pointless imo.

Perhaps I misunderstood, but Carlson is pretty good and needs to be on the floor. He is fouling out because so far he is being forced to play offense and defense (something Nate rarely did night in and out). He is our best on-ball defender, rebounds, and is being asked to carry the load. BTW, he is also our leading scorer on the season. I think if he plays like this all year he will be on an all conference team.

That being said, I seem to remember recent SDSU teams with execution issues and less talent than this one. This team has some execution issues, but plenty of talent too. I'm pretty confident they will dang good by the end of the year.

[Kemo]

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Obviously our issue is our perimeter defense. The first four games of the season (including the exhibition), we have been scorched from deep. If it happens one night it might just be a guy having a great night, but four games in a row is a trend. Troubling.

Offense is too inconsistent. Seems like some of the guys are afraid to step up. During the final minute, Chad White had a good look at a 3 but hesitated and then shot it and missed it.

I also agree we need a good PG so that Carlson can play the 2. He's fouled out in every game so far.

Players aren't communicating well and are having trouble knowing whether to switch on screens or fight through them. This is leading to defenders being out of position and leaving opposing shooters with really good looks. The good news is that it's a mental/experience issue rather than a physical one. Physically this team is grabbing boards and contesting more interior shots than any Jacks team in recent memory. This gives me hope.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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I don't see how it's an excuse. It's just a statement of fact. We have been the suck so far without Nate. Fact. Everyone else needs to step up and no one is. I don't know how that's an excuse or "bury their heads in the sand" bull****. If anything, it's the opposite. It's coming to realize the fact that some of these guys aren't nearly as good as we thought they were when Nate was playing. That's tough to admit. Maybe it will be proven wrong throughout the year, but as of now, it's pretty apparent that this team isn't very good.

Mostly because Austin Hanson isn't there to coach them to shoot free throws. Probably nothing to do with the fact that the leading free throw shooter percentage-wise and volume-wise left. Who also happened to run the entire offense by himself leaving the rest of the players to catch and shoot and use their energy on defense. Don't think Nate could help them though.

*Buries head in sand*

Its probably worth saying they aren't as bad as many here seem to think either. Dykstra, Larson, and Carlson are all good enough to be all conference if we finish high in the standings. But sadly they aren't Nate. I think we will be alright.

If we make 2 more free throws and Montana misses one 3 its a completely different ballgame down the stretch.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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Players aren't communicating well and are having trouble knowing whether to switch on screens or fight through them. This is leading to defenders being out of position and leaving opposing shooters with really good looks. The good news is that it's a mental/experience issue rather than a physical one. Physically this team is grabbing boards and contesting more interior shots than any Jacks team in recent memory. This gives me hope.

I think you are right on. A big reason for this is the fact that 2 newcomers are seeing a lot of minutes (Broman and Larson).

If we are playing like this in January, I will be concerned.

[RabbitObsessed]

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If we make 2 more free throws and Montana misses one 3 its a completely different ballgame down the stretch.

If that happens, the outcome still doesn't change the process. If we would have pulled a win out of our asses, I still wouldn't feel better about where the team is at. Wouldn't change the bad defense.

I do agree though that it's still super early and things can change quickly. Plenty of time, blah, blah, but I'm still concerned. Hard not to be with how these games have gone.

[discoDancinJackrabbit]

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Perhaps I misunderstood, but Carlson is pretty good and needs to be on the floor. He is fouling out because so far he is being forced to play offense and defense (something Nate rarely did night in and out). He is our best on-ball defender, rebounds, and is being asked to carry the load. BTW, he is also our leading scorer on the season. I think if he plays like this all year he will be on an all conference team.

That being said, I seem to remember recent SDSU teams with execution issues and less talent than this one. This team has some execution issues, but plenty of talent too. I'm pretty confident they will dang good by the end of the year.

Yup you misunderstood. Glad you toyed with the possibility. -playing Carlson as a point guard-

[Jacked_Up]

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Nate's not coming back. Let's move on. Give this team a few more games. The talent is there. The team will get better as players like Larson and Broman pick up experience. Contending for a conference crown would be nice, but the conference tourney is what really matters, and that's more than three months of cold weather away.

[joeboo22]

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I think once Larson starts finishing he will be a force. He is playing as if he hasn't played against real competition in quite some time (which he hasn't). He makes a solid move, and then doesn't finish, makes 1 good play followed by a bad play. He will be alright, though I wish he wasn't playing quite as many minutes right now, but what do I know.

I think this team will be alright, they are huge, something that allows you to compete in the conference. There are shooters on the team that just aren't clicking right now. There are some underclassmen that haven't played much. However the point guard position needs to be figured out. Is Carlson going to be the PG or the 2G, is Bittle a PG or a wing, is Broman going to just pass or can he score.

They'll figure it out, and if they don't? Well the sun will come up tomorrow

[MontanaRabbit]

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It's not like they lost to a bunch of scrubs last night. Montana has a good program. I still hate them, but they do deserve credit. They are coming off just as many consecutive trips to the NCAA as we are.

[Nidaros]

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Nate's not coming back. Let's move on.

Wisdom it's called.