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  • #46
    Re: Uno gdt

    Originally posted by SturgisJeff View Post
    22 points in the second half. bison kicked em by over 40 us 15.
    I'm not a great basketball mind (or a basketball mind period) but I wonder if the NDSU score was a fluke.

    To me UNO looked pretty good. Some of those guys could flat out play basketball. They moved the ball a ton, several of them could jump out of the gym, and that was probably the best I've seen Wolters guarded in a long time, if not ever, at least at Frost. (Though the play where UNO blocked Wolter's shot and Wolters followed it and layed it in was pretty nifty.)

    I think they'll beat some Summit teams this year (USD, KC, IUPUI I'm looking at you.)
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    • #47
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      if you get into comparing scores you will go nuts and figure ways how Colorado's football team is somehow better then Oregon's.

      SDSU was the better team, no ifs ands or buts about it. The big problem I've seen from the Jacks this year is not the toughness or the rebounding or the defense though they do need to work on those, its the ability to put teams away. It seems like every game they go out to a decent lead early and then let the other team come back. They were up big on Alabama, up on Hosftra, UND, tonight. I've been in those games where you are up by 28 in the half though and they are difficult, because as a team you don't want to beat them by 40, and what happens is you get into bad offensive sets, then they hit a few 3s, cut the lead and then a game that should be won by 40 is somehow turned into a 15 point game.

      I do think UNO will be quick learners in the Summit League, IDK if they will be a top 3 contender for a while, but remember that this is their first year in transition. Remember where SDSU was at during transition.

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      • #48
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        We were nearly doubling them up at the half (54-28). Though I'd rather not see it, I don't blame the guys for losing a little focus from that point on. The way the season has gone I'm just glad we did not let them hang with us until there were a few seconds left.

        I'm really looking forward to seeing if we can hang around with the Gophers this week.

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        • #49
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          Wisconsin football has the philosophy of playing hard the entire game. if the score gets run up so be it. do people like them for it....no. you are not out on that field or court to make the other team feel good about themselves, and not hurt their feelings, if you are then you don't deserve to play or coach.you are out there to win at all costs whether by one point or a hundred and playing hard the entire game is a part of that process. playing a hard first half and scoring 58 points and then only scoring 22 in the second is embarrassing while letting the other team outscore you especially when they are not even close to you in ability. it teaches laziness as in doing only what it takes to get the job done. I would rather my team play hard, intense, and focused the entire game especially my starters and key reserves and the margin of victory be damned than have them play focused for a half. will a forty point blowout come back to haunt you later when you are down and they are up probably, will an unfocused team come back to haunt you, probably and not when you want it.

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          • #50
            Re: Uno gdt

            Originally posted by joeboo22 View Post
            if you get into comparing scores you will go nuts and figure ways how Colorado's football team is somehow better then Oregon's.

            SDSU was the better team, no ifs ands or buts about it. The big problem I've seen from the Jacks this year is not the toughness or the rebounding or the defense though they do need to work on those, its the ability to put teams away. It seems like every game they go out to a decent lead early and then let the other team come back. They were up big on Alabama, up on Hosftra, UND, tonight. I've been in those games where you are up by 28 in the half though and they are difficult, because as a team you don't want to beat them by 40, and what happens is you get into bad offensive sets, then they hit a few 3s, cut the lead and then a game that should be won by 40 is somehow turned into a 15 point game.

            I do think UNO will be quick learners in the Summit League, IDK if they will be a top 3 contender for a while, but remember that this is their first year in transition. Remember where SDSU was at during transition.
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            • #51
              Re: Uno gdt

              Originally posted by joeboo22 View Post
              if you get into comparing scores you will go nuts and figure ways how Colorado's football team is somehow better then Oregon's.

              SDSU was the better team, no ifs ands or buts about it. The big problem I've seen from the Jacks this year is not the toughness or the rebounding or the defense though they do need to work on those, its the ability to put teams away. It seems like every game they go out to a decent lead early and then let the other team come back. They were up big on Alabama, up on Hosftra, UND, tonight. I've been in those games where you are up by 28 in the half though and they are difficult, because as a team you don't want to beat them by 40, and what happens is you get into bad offensive sets, then they hit a few 3s, cut the lead and then a game that should be won by 40 is somehow turned into a 15 point game.

              I do think UNO will be quick learners in the Summit League, IDK if they will be a top 3 contender for a while, but remember that this is their first year in transition. Remember where SDSU was at during transition.
              What do you mean you dont want to beat them by 40? I call BS.

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              • #52
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                Originally posted by MontanaRabbit View Post
                What do you mean you dont want to beat them by 40? I call BS.
                I should have worded that different, you don't want to romp all over them. Most basketball coaches will tell there players to run the offense, or slow it down, or work on things when up 25+. Not that you don't want to win by 40 but you don't want to run up and down the court, firing up 3's every shot you have when up 40. Its kinda a basketball coaches code so to say. Kinda like when up 21+ in football in the second half and you don't throw it all over the place. All of that causes the intensity to go down and so on.

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                • #53
                  Re: Uno gdt

                  Originally posted by Southeast View Post
                  We were nearly doubling them up at the half (54-28). Though I'd rather not see it, I don't blame the guys for losing a little focus from that point on. The way the season has gone I'm just glad we did not let them hang with us until there were a few seconds left.

                  I'm really looking forward to seeing if we can hang around with the Gophers this week.
                  Your correct southeast. We pretty much coasted the second half. Tough to keep that intensity when you know your that much better than the opposition. Couple of comments.

                  What's up with Horstman? He simply is not able to score from anywhere.

                  Secondly in the post game comments from Coach Nagy.....the number one goal is not winning! Yikes, I would think winning the ball game should be #1 priority.

                  Good win Jacks. A conference win is a conference win. Omaha will not likely get many wins this year.

                  GBGBGJ

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                  • #54
                    Re: Uno gdt

                    Originally posted by Chains View Post
                    Your correct southeast. We pretty much coasted the second half. Tough to keep that intensity when you know your that much better than the opposition. Couple of comments.

                    What's up with Horstman? He simply is not able to score from anywhere.

                    Secondly in the post game comments from Coach Nagy.....the number one goal is not winning! Yikes, I would think winning the ball game should be #1 priority.

                    Good win Jacks. A conference win is a conference win. Omaha will not likely get many wins this year.

                    GBGBGJ
                    You should watch the video

                    http://www.gojacks.com/mediaPortal/p...bml?id=1128644

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                    • #55
                      Re: Uno gdt

                      Originally posted by Chains View Post
                      Your correct southeast. We pretty much coasted the second half. Tough to keep that intensity when you know your that much better than the opposition. Couple of comments.What's up with Horstman? He simply is not able to score from anywhere. Secondly in the post game comments from Coach Nagy.....the number one goal is not winning! Yikes, I would think winning the ball game should be #1 priority.Good win Jacks. A conference win is a conference win. Omaha will not likely get many wins this year.GBGBGJ
                      Uhh.... I think you took it wrong. His point is he isn't happy with 1 or 12 point wins if they didn't play as well as they should. You prepare for being the best not the opponent.
                      "This is your life and it's ending one minute at a time." -Tyler Durden

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                      • #56
                        Re: Uno gdt

                        Originally posted by Chains View Post
                        Secondly in the post game comments from Coach Nagy.....the number one goal is not winning! Yikes, I would think winning the ball game should be #1 priority.

                        Good win Jacks. A conference win is a conference win. Omaha will not likely get many wins this year.

                        GBGBGJ
                        These interviews have to be taken with a grain of salt. Saturday morning one of my coffee guys was relating a second-hand observation of sitting behind the Nagy bench and how hard he was on the players. So what the coach suppose to do?
                        I do think this coach does care about his players and winning. Was the one comment directed specificallly to a transition D1 team, namely Omaha? I think so. And is winning at Minnesota important? I think so.

                        This behind the bench fan is way off base in critizing coach for getting in the players faces. I beleive Nagy has said himself many times that when he stops getting in their face, its a sign that he no longer cares about that player. What else is the coach to do? As long as profanity is not used, you have to motivate the gang, thats what he is being paid for. Watching the Insider interview, Mrs Nagy was on his case for not being more of a cheerleader. You could not pay me enough to be Coach Nagy, not that I could do better, but most likely worse.

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                        • #57
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                          Originally posted by Nidaros View Post
                          These interviews have to be taken with a grain of salt. Saturday morning one of my coffee guys was relating a second-hand observation of sitting behind the Nagy bench and how hard he was on the players. So what the coach suppose to do?
                          I do think this coach does care about his players and winning. Was the one comment directed specificallly to a transition D1 team, namely Omaha? I think so. And is winning at Minnesota important? I think so.

                          This behind the bench fan is way off base in critizing coach for getting in the players faces. I beleive Nagy has said himself many times that when he stops getting in their face, its a sign that he no longer cares about that player. What else is the coach to do? As long as profanity is not used, you have to motivate the gang, thats what he is being paid for. Watching the Insider interview, Mrs Nagy was on his case for not being more of a cheerleader. You could not pay me enough to be Coach Nagy, not that I could do better, but most likely worse.
                          My dad always told me that when your coach stops yelling at you is the day he stops caring about you.
                          "This is your life and it's ending one minute at a time." -Tyler Durden

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                          • #58
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                            It would seem a big job to keep these young players motivated every day from October to March. As we saw in the opening game at Alabama that a small opening for the other team fuels the momentum. Coach Nagy has his methods which seem at times a bit of a tantrum. AJ may have some things to say to his women players that would take some people back a step or two as well. It is normal for all to want to hear the positive things on a regular basis and I am sure there is that type of reinforcement for the team as well. If I watched the entire coaching staff during the game, I would expect that there is many positive things happening. The bigger your game, the bigger your pressures no matter what is happening in these young people's lives. This is about as big as you get in college basketball so I would expect a level of pressure to rise to the same level from the coaching staff to find that talent in the players. These players were not recruited to be on a mediocre team and the fan base would evaporate quickly if they were a mediocre team. SDSU is recruiting young men with good character that have a talent on the basketball court and in the classroom. I am in favor of letting the coach have the freedom to succed or fail as well.
                            Best to remember these are kids and they are doing everything they can to entertain us, be scholars, and all in all be great humans. Jackedforlife

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                            • #59
                              Re: Uno gdt

                              Originally posted by Nidaros View Post
                              These interviews have to be taken with a grain of salt. Saturday morning one of my coffee guys was relating a second-hand observation of sitting behind the Nagy bench and how hard he was on the players. So what the coach suppose to do?
                              I do think this coach does care about his players and winning. Was the one comment directed specificallly to a transition D1 team, namely Omaha? I think so. And is winning at Minnesota important? I think so.

                              This behind the bench fan is way off base in critizing coach for getting in the players faces. I beleive Nagy has said himself many times that when he stops getting in their face, its a sign that he no longer cares about that player. What else is the coach to do? As long as profanity is not used, you have to motivate the gang, thats what he is being paid for. Watching the Insider interview, Mrs Nagy was on his case for not being more of a cheerleader. You could not pay me enough to be Coach Nagy, not that I could do better, but most likely worse.
                              Klink (especially) and the other assistants we have now do a nice job of giving out carrots to balance Nagy's stick - something that was not happening when Coach Larson was around, IMO. Some players (and people in general) are going to respond better to positive reinforcement. Some are not.

                              An example would be if Nate made a top ten type play followed by a time-out. Nagy would likely smile/chuckle and shake his head. Klink and the other coaches would meet him 10 feet away from the bench with high fives and butt slaps.

                              The assistants we have now do a nice job of amplifying the basketball points, not the attitude of the head coach. Just my opinion.
                              “I used to be with it. But then they changed what it was. Now what I’m with isn’t it, and what’s it seems scary and wierd. It’ll happen to you.” — Abe Simpson

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                              • #60
                                Re: Uno gdt

                                Originally posted by Chains View Post
                                What's up with Horstman? He simply is not able to score from anywhere.
                                Looked like he had a couple of shots that just rimmed out. He's not a good long range shooter, but he had decent looks closer to the hoops where the shot just didn't drop.

                                Originally posted by Chains View Post

                                Secondly in the post game comments from Coach Nagy.....the number one goal is not winning! Yikes, I would think winning the ball game should be #1 priority.
                                Yeah, as others pointed out, you missed the point of what he was saying.
                                Originally posted by JackFan96
                                Well, I don't get to sit in Mom's basement and watch sports all day

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