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I've got UMKC on MLK Day circled. That one we're going to win.
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North Dakota State at Frost Jan. 15th should also be a D-I win. Those would be the 4 D-I wins I predicted. ;D
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What is the one thing you need to have to be succussful at the college basketball level?
Hint: its the one thing the Jacks can't do this year and have been very good at in the past, also maybe the biggest talent we lost when Andy transferred to Mankato. also something we lost when wenig went down for the season.
Three point shooting.
We absolutely do not have it this year.
"I'd like to thank the good Lord for making me a Yankee." - Joe D.Comment
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All of our D-I games so far have been against Mid-Major powers.
http://www.collegeinsider.com/mmpoll/
1. Gonzaga (24) 3-1 765 1
2. Southern Illinois (5) 4-0 724 2
3. Pacific 2-0 690 3
4. Pepperdine 4-1 619 7
5. Creighton (1) 5-0 577 21
6. Utah State 3-1 536 6
7. Vermont 2-1 534 14
8. Central Florida (1) 4-0 510 22
9. St. Mary's (CA) 4-3 480 5
10. Wichita State 1-0 476 11
11. Wisconsin-Milwaukee 3-0 443 16
12. Manhattan 3-0 428 19
13. Santa Clara 4-1 369 NR
14. Niagara 3-1 327 23
15. East Tennessee State 1-2 288 7
16. Old Dominion 4-1 287 15
17. Princeton 2-2 275 4
18. Davidson 2-2 271 12
19. Buffalo 2-1 236 18
20. Southwest Missouri State 2-1 161 25
21. Hofstra 3-0 115 NR
22. Western Kentucky 3-0 109 NR
23. Kent State 4-2 87 NR
24. Oral Roberts 3-0 81 NR
25. Texas A&M-Corpus Christi 4-1 66 NR
OTHERS RECEIVING VOTES: Miami (Ohio) 58, Murray State 57, Butler 54, Bowling Green 47, UL-Lafayette 38, Illinois-Chicago 47, 33, Northern Iowa 25, Eastern Kentucky 23, Boston University 21, South Carolina State 18, Drexel 18, Toledo 18, Austin Peay 16, Birmingham Southern 16, Portland 13, Gardner-Webb 12, James Madison 12, Valparaiso 12, College of Charleston 11, Middle Tennessee 10, Eastern Washington 8, Wright State 8, Georgia State 7, Holy Cross 5, Illinois State 5, Samford 5, UC Santa Barbara 4, North Texas 4, St. Francis (PA) 3, Texas-San Antonio 3, VCU 3, Eastern Michigan 2, Fairfield 2, Belmont 1, New Hampshire 1, Southeastern Louisiana 1, Western Michigan 1.
Things get easier (Southeast Missouri St.) before they get hard again (Marquette).
Go State! ;D
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I think the mistake being made here is focusing on the talent of our opponents. Doesn't matter how good the team you are playing against is, you have to be better.
I am not comfortable calling this team better than any current DI team on our schedule with the possible exception of NDSU. I forgot about them. As for the others, I don't know enough about them. I haven't seen any of Ohio Valley Conf teams play so I would be depending on the word of others. I have seen this Jacks team play and I'll stand by my statement with the following modification (not being pesimistic just realistic).
I will be happy if the Jacks win more than one DI game on the road this year. I'll be ecstatic when they prove me wrong.
More importantly, the significance of DI losses this year is minimal. I truly believe this. Recruiting will survive a poor performance at this higher level the first few years. We have been dealt a tough hand moving up to DI the same year we lost two great players. That doesn't diminish the magnitude of the decision.
We are here to add what we can to life, not get what we can from life. -Sir William Osler
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looks like we are gonna hit 50. seemed like we played pretty well in the 2nd half too.
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UMW 89 - SDSU 54. Ugly. :-[
Still love my Jackrabbits, tomorrow is another day.
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Sometimes you get your arse kicked. Hurts for awhile and then you get to kick someone else's arse.Comment
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JackMD, This might sound weird coming from me, but I would bet a lot of money that State will win more than one D-I game this year. I'm pretty sure you will beat Tenn. St., UMCK, SE Miss. St., and maybe Denver and maybe Arkansas St. I don't know much about those last two. Not to mention NDSU, but you already said that you forgot about them. It may not seem like it but I actually hope you guys do win your D-I games. You guys still have more SD players on your team than those teams that you are playing, and as long as that is the case then I will always cheer for SDSU against any D-I team. I really do think you guys will beat those teams that I mentioned. I realize you guys aren't as good as years past but Nagy will find a way to beat these teams I mentioned, possibly more. I'll tell you one thing tonights score surprised me more than Manhattans score did.Originally posted by jackmd
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Good Game Tonight, I will say this much 40 & 54 (i think, I know for a fact 40 can) on your team can ball. Most of the Jackrabbit fans were in my section so that was kind of neat, nice people not A-holes like UIC fans. ANyway, this year is going to be tough for you guys, hopefully you pull out a few DI wins this year. Keep your heads up, my freshman year at UWM (97-98 ) , the team went 3-24. Hopefully you guys will be better than that when you make the transition to DI.
89Rabbit, I am really interested on hearing your views on UWM adding a football team. Do you think it is better for us to go Scholarships or no Scholarships? I believe the last time UWM had a team was in 1976. Milwaukee is dieing to have a team in the city for this football hungry state. Hopefully they get the funding and a stadiun can get built (get built on the land where they should of built Miller Park!!). Well, good luck on the rest of your season, will UWM be makin a trip to your home court next year?Comment
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I was at the game last night in full SDSU atire. Ugly game. I didn't catch any grief for having the Jacks stuff on, but I did get a lot of funny looks. I think Holdren's parents were there. With my wife and me that would be about it for Jacks fans.
As for the game, it was UGLY, obviously. Man for man we were out muscled all the way down the roster. Our gaurd play was very poor to put it as midly as I can. We went up 6-5 early and we looked pretty good. Then, they hit a 3, got into the press and all hell breaks loose. I heard they shot 51% for the game, but during that stretch in the first half when the lead grew to 25 they had to have shot 70%. The worst part was they were killing us on the boards - both offensively and defensively. At the end of the first half they had twice as many shots as we did. Throw in the "Back to D-II" chants and the errant passes flying out of bounds and it was not a fun night. At least they sold beer.
Holdren is a good talent, but seemed to get easily frustrated. He had a couple of 1 on 3 drives to the hoop after we forced UWM into a turnover that were ill-advised. Each time he ended up giving the ball right back to UWM. He's young, though, and he's easily our best player. One positive note: not one player on our team quit the entire game. Also, Nagy was coaching his guys to the last whistle. And not the "Rah, Rah" type of coaching, either. He was instructing to the last second.
UWM is a big, athletic team that will make a lot of noise this year. Losing to them is nothing to hang our heads about. Losing to them by 35 may be, but hopefully our kids use it to grow. We have a good enough coach and kids who will listen to him. That alone will be enough to beat 1 or 2 of the D-I teams like Tenn St. In fact, I would toss a shiney quarter on the Jacks pulling out the win this weekend at SE Miss St. We're definitely due."You just stood their screaming. Fearing no one was listening to you. Hearing only what you wanna hear. Knowing only what you heard." MetallicaComment
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Kingbury,Originally posted by Kingsbury
Let me start by saying that I am a huge football fan. I think every college should have a football team. Nothing better then a Saturday afternoon filled with tailgating and College football.
I think if UMW can afford and support it scholarship football is the way to go. With scholarships comes a higher level of football, otherwise you are just playing D-III football. I know Wisconsin has tons of D-III schools and their is nothing wrong with that but my guess is the good folks of Milwaukee would want more for their great city.
Another advantage to scholarship football is access to the NCAA I-AA playoffs. While Non-scholarship teams are eligible, no Non-scholarship team has ever been included in the 16.
If UMW can't support it finacially (extra scholarships, title IX considerations, and fan support) then Non-scholarship football is better then no football. Valpo is coming to Brookings next fall in one of our early games.
If you really want to know more about I-AA football here is a site that fans from all over the country come to and talk I-AA football. I think it would be of interest to you.
http://www.anygivensaturday.com
Also feel free to ask any questions you have here or in a PM. Sorry we didn't give you much of a game last night, we will be better next year when you come to Frost Arena.
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i am hard pressed to say good game from last night....but i will do it anyway. we just outmanned you guys. i was impressed by "steve" which we yelled at hime every time he touched the ball. you guys will definatly be a good team in a couple years. i'm pretty sure you can beat some of the bottom teams in our confrence (youngstown state for example) and maybe even more. you should get UW-Green Bay on your schedule. they think they are good, but truly suck.
i do have one suggestion. take our your frustration on Marquette, they been allowing supposidly lesser teams (thats just a matter of opinion i think marquettes is overrated this year) keep with them. stop diener and they are very beatable. Good luck, Ill be rooting for your over marquette. Good luck with the rest of the season!
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Wanted to mention one other thing about the game last night. I was very dissapointed in the showing for UWM fans. The announced attendance was in the neighborhood of 3000, but the actual fan count couldn't have been more than 1500, and that would be stretching it in my opinion. The student section was loud and in the game from the tipoff to the final horn, but they couldn't have numbered more than 350. When these teams venture the Frost next year, they are going to be in for a rude awakening. It will be interesting to see the turnout for the Marquette game next week."You just stood their screaming. Fearing no one was listening to you. Hearing only what you wanna hear. Knowing only what you heard." MetallicaComment
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Here are the highlights :-/ from the Argus story.
http://www.argusleader.com/sports/Th...article8.shtml
Wis.-Milwaukee hammers SDSU
From Staff & Wire Reports
published: 12/2/2004
Ed McCants scored 19 points and Boo Davis added 18 Wednesday night as Wisconsin-Milwaukee beat South Dakota State 89-54 in Milwaukee.
Adrian Tigert added 13 points and Joah Tucker and Chris Hill 11 apiece for Milwaukee, which improved to 4-0 for the first time since the 1992-93 season when the school won its first eight games.
South Dakota (1-4), which this season moved up from NCAA Division II to Division I, was led by Luke Geiver with 14 points and Steve Holdren with 13. All four of the team's losses have been on the road against Division I opponents.
The Panthers made seven 3-pointers en route to a 47-20 halftime lead. . . .
The Jackrabbits took their only lead of the game early at 6-5 on a basket by Ben Beran. But McCants scored to ignite a 15-4 run that put the Panthers on top 20-10.
South Dakota State (1-4)
Steve Holdren 6-14 3-3 15, Ben Beran 3-7 0-0 6, Jared DeJong 2-3 0-0 4, Luke Geiver 4-6 0-0 12, Brady Hokenson 2-8 2-2 6, Mackenzie Casey 0-1 0-0 0, Ben DeWaard 0-0 0-0 0, Joe Green 3-10 1-4 9, Michael Loney 0-1 2-2 2. Totals 20-50 8-11 54.
UW-Milwaukee (4-0)
Joah Tucker 5-10 0-0 11, Adrian Tigert 5-7 2-3 13, Derrick Ford 2-3 0-0 4, Ed McCants 6-14 4-4 19, Boo Davis 7-14 0-0 18, Chris Hill 4-7 1-1, Allan Hanson 1-2 0-0 2, Drrick Wimmer 1-1 0-0 3, Jason McCoy 1-4 1-2 3, James Wright 1-2 0-0 2, Nick Hansen 0-1 0-0 0, Michael Bendall 0-0 0-2 0, Rob Sanders 1-1 1-2 3. Totals 34-66 9-14 89.
Halftime score - UW-Milwaukee 47, SDSU 20. FG percentage - SDSU .400, UWM .515. 3-Pt FG - SDSU 6-18 (Geiver 4-6, Green 2-8, Holdren 0-1, Hokenson 0-3), UWM 12-30 (Davis 4-9, McCants 3-9, Hill 2-5, Wimmer 1-1, Tigert 1-2, Tucker 1-3, Hanson 0-1, Hansen 0-1). Rebounds - SDSU 29 (Holdren 5, Beran 5, Green 5), UWM 37 (Tigert 7). Fouls - SDSU 15, UWM 17. Fouled out - none. Assists - SDSU 8 (Hokenson 4), UWM 18 (Tucker 4, Davis 4). Steals - SDSU 5 (Geiver 3), UWM 10 (Tucker 2, Tigert 2). Blocked shots - SDSU 1 (Beran), UWM 4 (Ford 2, Hansen 2). Turnovers - SDSU 22, UWM 13. Attendance 3,053.
Time to put this one behind us. Bring on SE Missouri St.
Go Jackrabbits! ;D
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