Athlon's picks SDSU #1

[LakeJack]

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Summary of Athlon's @summithoops picks: 1. SDSU; 2. OU; 3. NDSU; 4. WIU; 5. IPFW; 6. IUPUI; 7. UMKC; 8. USD; 9. UNO.

[NoVaJack]

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Summary of Athlon's @summithoops picks: 1. SDSU; 2. OU; 3. NDSU; 4. WIU; 5. IPFW; 6. IUPUI; 7. UMKC; 8. USD; 9. UNO.

And to think five or so years ago they were borrowing football players to help field a team

[mitchellrabbit]

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And to think five or so years ago they were borrowing football players to help field a team

And how many on here thought Nagy should be gone.

[Nidaros]

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And how many on here thought Nagy should be gone.

I had plenty of doubts, and at times thought a change in coaching staffs was needed. I think both Glen Fox and Chris Wagner showed that they were not only football players. There is one more who was a big in 9 man football down by Mitchell, who name escapes me. Was it Steffan? He also did good on the court. To think we beat NDSU with these guys. There are certain memories that just dont go away. Thats why its great to be a Jack. Thanks also to Coach Nagy and staff. You have been through the ups and downs.

[mitchellrabbit]

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I had plenty of doubts, and at times thought a change in coaching staffs was needed. I think both Glen Fox and Chris Wagner showed that they were not only football players. There is one more who was a big in 9 man football down by Mitchell, who name escapes me. Was it Steffan? He also did good on the court. To think we beat NDSU with these guys. There are certain memories that just dont go away. Thats why its great to be a Jack. Thanks also to Coach Nagy and staff. You have been through the ups and downs.

Mike Steffen from Mt Vernon is who you are thinking of.

[SUPERBUNNY]

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And how many on here thought Nagy should be gone.

Yep, it's amazing how much better of a coach he is with talent around. Transition is brutal in MBB. It is over and Nagy survived it. I am really glad he is our coach. You won't find a more quality person and he always has been and always will be a winner. Hats off not only to him but to all of the coaching staff for turning things around.

SDSU has always had a strong MBB tradition and supported MBB very well. It is great to have that back! This year is going to be beyond fun!

GB, GB, GJ!

SUPERBUNNY

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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And how many on here thought Nagy should be gone.

I will get murdered for saying this. But, looking back, he should have been gone.

We never would have had a 6 win season if Nagy would have switched to the offense we currently run after the 04-05 season. Unfortunately, it took him until after the 07-08 season to figure out he had personnel to run a 4 out offense. He was too stubborn.

At that point, they had gone 3 straight seasons with less than 10 wins. The team stunk for a long period of time. They won 33 games over 4 years (8.25 wins per year). That is not only not good, it is very bad. The next year we won 13 games, now that is really something. Over a 5 year span, we won a whopping total of 46 games. How many NAIA coaches could put up those results and keep their job?

Frankly, its a miracle he is still our coach.

With all that being said, I'm very glad that he has things figured out now, and I'm very glad he wasn't fired.

[witness]

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And how many on here thought Nagy should be gone.

I know I did, from the arrests, to the losing seasons, to using football players, I think he could have been fired. Hindsight 20/20 , aren't we glad the AD didn't fire him, and I think that is a testament to things taking time. Remember Coach Ks first few seasons with Duke, I bet Duke is glad they didn't overreact to his few seasons at Duke either. However, I think part of it was that before then went D1, Nagy was regarded as a better coach than Stig and Stig did have some earlier success than Nagy so that also contributed to the heat on Nagy.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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Yep, it's amazing how much better of a coach he is with talent around. Transition is brutal in MBB. It is over and Nagy survived it. I am really glad he is our coach. You won't find a more quality person and he always has been and always will be a winner. Hats off not only to him but to all of the coaching staff for turning things around.

SDSU has always had a strong MBB tradition and supported MBB very well. It is great to have that back! This year is going to be beyond fun!

GB, GB, GJ!

SUPERBUNNY

We had enough that 10-15 wins should have been possible.

04-05 (10 wins)
Ben Beran
Steve Holdren

05-06 (9 wins)
Matt Cadwell
Steve Holdren
Ben Beran
Andre Gilbert

06-07 (6 wins)
Kai Williams
Matt Cadwell
Garrett Callahan

07-08 (8 wins)
Kai Williams
Ben Beran
Garrett Callahan
Clint Sargent
Anthony Cordova
Dale Moss

08-09 (13 wins)
Garrett Callahan
Clint Sargent
Anthony Cordova
Kai Williams
Dale Moss
Griffan Callahan

09-10 (14 wins)
Clint Sargent
Garrett Callahan
Kai Williams
Nate Wolters
Anthony Cordova
Dale Moss
Griffan Callahan

[propar80]

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IMO...a lot of the "heat" that Coach Nagy took in those years had a lot to do with the success of SDSU Women's BB and even more...the success of NDSU's men's basketball team, considering NDSU was barely a blip on the screen back in the NCC years as far as Men's BB goes. People had a hard time swallowing the fact that NDSU was having so much success so early. As most of us always said, in transition, losing is more the norm than winning. NDSU caught lightning in a bottle and Tim Miles took full advantage of it....NDSU<Colorado St.<Nebraska.

The question maybe 5 years down the road and SDSU has made a couple of NCAA runs, what will Coach Nagy do???

Go Jacks!!

[jackmd]

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And how many on here thought Nagy should be gone.

Not just on here. The past is the past, thank God it hasn't persisted.

Next step, continue to get better. No room for complacency or being satisfied contending for Summit league titles. The goal has to be to win an NCAA tourney game and the time is now. Nagy had very successful DII regular seasons. I think its fair to say his DII teams underperformed in the post-season, regionals and Elite 8's. I'm sure I'll get chastized for saying it but I think its fact. I believe SDSU had the best team in the nation at least 2 of those years and didn't win even a single game in the elite 8.

Again, shame on me, the past is just that. Big things are and should be expected of the team this year, time to go out and achieve, meet those expetations.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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Not just on here. The past is the past, thank God it hasn't persisted.

Next step, continue to get better. No room for complacency or being satisfied contending for Summit league titles. The goal has to be to win an NCAA tourney game and the time is now. Nagy had very successful DII regular seasons. I think its fair to say his DII teams underperformed in the post-season, regionals and Elite 8's. I'm sure I'll get chastized for saying it but I think its fact. I believe SDSU had the best team in the nation at least 2 of those years and didn't win even a single game in the elite 8.

Again, shame on me, the past is just that. Big things are and should be expected of the team this year, time to go out and achieve, meet those expetations.

The funny thing is, if SDSU underachieved during DII, they have probably overachieved during DI postseason.

In 09 we beat 2 seed Oral Roberts as a 7 seed.

In 11 we beat 4 seed IPFW as a 5 seed.

In 12 we won the whole thing as a 2 seed.

3/4 tournaments, SDSU has done better than their seed.

[LakeJack]

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Yea I want to talk about the '85-'86 season how could Coach Thorson lead us to a 8-20 record after Coach Zulk took us to the D-II NCAA Championship game the year before? How in the world did a thread about a basketball publication picking us to win the Summit League and going to another Men's NCAA Tournament turn into a remember everything bad that has ever happened to the program thread? Pure crazy if you ask me.

We made the Men's NCAA D-I tournament last year - perhaps the biggest thing to ever happen to SDSU Men's Basketball and I am pumped because we could very well do it again. We are favored by Athlon to do it again and I for one am happy and looking forward not unhappy and looking back.

[bigticket1]

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We had enough that 10-15 wins should have been possible.

04-05 (10 wins)
Ben Beran
Steve Holdren

05-06 (9 wins)
Matt Cadwell
Steve Holdren
Ben Beran
Andre Gilbert

06-07 (6 wins)
Kai Williams
Matt Cadwell
Garrett Callahan

07-08 (8 wins)
Kai Williams
Ben Beran
Garrett Callahan
Clint Sargent
Anthony Cordova
Dale Moss

08-09 (13 wins)
Garrett Callahan
Clint Sargent
Anthony Cordova
Kai Williams
Dale Moss
Griffan Callahan

09-10 (14 wins)
Clint Sargent
Garrett Callahan
Kai Williams
Nate Wolters
Anthony Cordova
Dale Moss
Griffan Callahan

Until the scrawny kid from St.Cloud showed up in the most recent year of your list,how many of those players were true point guards ? It's amazing how adding a really good point can make some talented players who struggle to win into a team that can be successful. Ask Bison fans what happened after Woodside left and they didn't have anyone to take over and run the show. Fortunately for the Jacks, early reports from work-outs indicate that Nate's heir-apparent may be already on campus in the person of Mr.Bittle.

[WestSideRabbit]

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Current players have been singing the praises of Bittle. I would expect him and Nate to see time on the court together!