New Parking, Traffic, and Tailgating Rules

[Evolution Prime]

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Tailgaiting doesn't always mean drinking until you are stupid. For some, typically students, it may. If its well policed, I don't see why it should be a big issue. Maybe I don't see all of it. I usually tailgate with my dad who usually tailgates with his friends, usually including Les Tuma. That is a subdued bunch who tailgate responsibly.

[rjacks21]

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I don't have a particular issue with the tailgating rules. The only thing I'd like to see is a less visual presence by the police in the backyard. Maybe it's just me, but I get a little annoyed when I see an officer patroling by my tailgating spot every 15 minutes for 5 hours. I'm just there to relax with family and friends and watch some great football.

I understand that they need to be there in case something happens but I think that can be accomplished without strutting through the Backyard staring people down all day. That being said, I can't wait until Sept. 12! Go Jacks!!

[JACKGUYII]

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Tailgaiting doesn't always mean drinking until you are stupid. For some, typically students, it may. If its well policed, I don't see why it should be a big issue. Maybe I don't see all of it. I usually tailgate with my dad who usually tailgates with his friends, usually including Les Tuma. That is a subdued bunch who tailgate responsibly.

I don't see how you can pick and choose the responsible one's which is why they have a universal policy. I guess for most people the primary reason for tailgating is to socialize prior to going to the game. How does SDSU benefit from a revenue perspective if people just sit out in the tailgate area? I remember before the policy looking out at all the people who did not attend the game and how I thought that is embarrasing and what message does that send to the players etc.

[Jacks99]

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SDSU is not a Big10/12 program that can fill a 60,000 seat stadium and not worry about those left over.

The 30min rule works either way. Either it sends extra fans into the stadium or it sends those that don't care about the game home.

[Jacks#1Fan]

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SDSU is not a Big10/12 program that can fill a 60,000 seat stadium and not worry about those left over.

The 30min rule works either way. Either it sends extra fans into the stadium or it sends those that don't care about the game home.

Couldn't agree more. The Jackrabbit Tailgating area is provided for SDSU fans who are going to the game. Nothing more, nothing less. If you're not going to the game, party elsewhere...who cares? We were among the first half dozen tailgaters to assemble north of the stadium before it got official approval as a tailgating site. It's great now and we're appreciative of the site. I'm also not as concerned about the officers on duty as some are...they don't stare at me, unless I don't see them, because, I don't stare at them. I was once cautioned about a coozie, because I forgot...in the early days. The lady was polite, I was embarassed, complied...and haven't had a thing said to me since then.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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The tailgating experience needs to be made as fan/casual fan friendly as possible. There is probably some tweaking that could be done to make it better, but the end goal is to get butts in the seats.

But,

1-There needs to be a police presence in the backyard. Past incidents (some well known, some not) underscore this fact. I guess I was raised to respect officers of the law. If they ask me to do something, I do it. Obviously some people do not share my feelings.

2-SDSU athletics needs to make money to continue the venture to DI. I'm not really sure how tailgating during the game helps accomplish that.

3-Gameday atmosphere suffers when tailgating happens during gametime. How fun would the McNeese game have been last year if half the people would have went out at halftime for a beer and not came back? Or at the end of the 3rd quarter?

[Nidaros]

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The tailgating experience needs to be made as fan/casual fan friendly as possible. There is probably some tweaking that could be done to make it better, but the end goal is to get butts in the seats.

But,

1-There needs to be a police presence in the backyard. Past incidents (some well known, some not) underscore this fact. I guess I was raised to respect officers of the law. If they ask me to do something, I do it. Obviously some people do not share my feelings.

2-SDSU athletics needs to make money to continue the venture to DI. I'm not really sure how tailgating during the game helps accomplish that.

3-Gameday atmosphere suffers when tailgating happens during gametime. How fun would the McNeese game have been last year if half the people would have went out at halftime for a beer and not came back? Or at the end of the 3rd quarter?

These are good points. Even with the 30 minute rule and Coach Stig getting on the PA, I noticed there were still some stragglers at McNeese and other home games.

Some have problems distinguishing between tailgating and a public beer bust, (beer bust kind of dates me,), but there does seem to be some confusion for some but not all who tailgate. And also there are people who have problems with alcohol and do know it and a tailgate event has to be the best cover for denial around. If alcohol consumption is your only reason for coming, then your priorities are really messed up.

Also how does the cost of having police protection at the tailgate affect the Athletic Budget? I can see where there would be a charge to Athletic department for wages of the officers who might otherwise be off the clock or doing other offical duties. Hopefully the tailgate fees are gauged to cover this cost.

Yes the McNeese game was a thriller and a bunch of folks would have missed the finish if tailgating had been allowed to run during the game. I still think McNeese got a break on the one td pass, but no sense in going over that again. Funny part is that McNeese went into the tank after the SDSU game and Central Arkansas won the Southland and could not go to the playoffs because of being in transition. I digrees here

Tailgating might not be making money for SDSU, but it does provide a social opportunity that possibly leads to further gifts. I can't think of some other function that would prime the pump for fundraising. So tailgate on. I come generally to enjoy the game and not much else.

[rjacks21]

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I thought it would be interesting to compare SDSU's policies to other MVFC schools and SDSU policies pretty much mirror the other schools I looked at.

NDSU - Lot opens 5 hrs prior to game. Must enter 30 mins before kickoff. Allowed for 2 hrs following game.

Western Illinois - Lot opens 3 hrs prior to game. Must enter 15 minutes before kickoff. No time limit listed following game.

Illinois State - Lot opens 3 hrs before game, closed at kickoff, no time limit listed after game.

UNI - Lot opens 4 hrs before game, Must enter 30 minutes prior to kickoff, Allowed 1 hr following game.

I was unable to find tailgating info for Indiana State, Missouri State, and Youngstown.

Also, the alcohol policies seemed simliar with no glass bottles or open cans in most cases.

We may not have a policy like McNeese which allows for tailgating the day before the game, but we've got a pretty comparable policy to the rest of the conference overall.

[SUPERBUNNY]

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If memory serves me, the Board of Regents wanted to shut tailgating down entirely. The AD Staff came up with the current rules to appease their concerns and yet allow the fans to continue to tailgate in a more controlled environment. My guess is that the BOR has to sign off on whatever the plan is.

Before the changes were made it was questionable whether or not the tailgate area was safe for children. Things seemed much better last year.

To me its a black or white issue, we either do it this way or we don't tailgate. Taking tailgating away would kill the atmosphere and be a complete disaster.

Lets tailgate and enjoy the game!!!

GB, GB, GJ!

SUPERBUNNY

[jackmd]

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Under the current rules I've had no trouble with my children being there nor have I had much trouble with the "police presence". I do think separating the student group from the alumni could allow for a little less supervision in the alumni tailgate areas and allow more focus on the group likely to be more disruptive. Then again, I can deal with just as it is now and have a great time. I will say unequivocally that tailgating has increased attendance significantly as it pertains to this area of the state.

[Jacks-02]

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Tailgating rules updated again and now finalized. Apparently no student section anymore...

Rules
https://www.nmnathletics.com//pdf4/6...B_OEM_ID=15000

Map
https://www.nmnathletics.com//pdf4/6...B_OEM_ID=15000

[EQguy]

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Quite interesting.

[Jacks#1Fan]

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I heard (second-hand of couse) that they were going to move the student tailgating area west of the road that now comes down Hwy 14 to the stadium. Not sure if that is true.

[Jacks-02]

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I heard (second-hand of couse) that they were going to move the student tailgating area west of the road that now comes down Hwy 14 to the stadium. Not sure if that is true.

Read the PDF...
12. The university will no longer have a designated area for SDSU students. Students may reserve spots listed above.

[KUlawJack]

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Read the PDF...
12. The university will no longer have a designated area for SDSU students. Students may reserve spots listed above.

Saw this. I actually think this is a poor idea. Just my opinion. I am no longer a student at SDSU, but if I were, I would feel somewhat unwelcome in the tailgate area. I guess students can always tailgate at their houses and such and head to the game before it starts.

I understand nothing stops students from entering by walking and finding a friendly group to tailgate with (or from paying for a spot but not many would do so - I rented a spot in college and tons of people just piled in at my spot) but say we throw a couple thousand students in that way and it could be a mess.

Thoughts?