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  • #46
    Re: Practice Facilities and Artificial Surface

    I'll guess that the vast majority of SDSU road games are played on Field Turf or some other artificial surface. Doesn't that put the Jacks at a competitive disadvantage?
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    • #47
      Re: Practice Facilities and Artificial Surface

      Originally posted by Jacked_Up View Post
      I'll guess that the vast majority of SDSU road games are played on Field Turf or some other artificial surface. Doesn't that put the Jacks at a competitive disadvantage?
      good point jacked up. POSITIVE REPS FOR YOUUUU.

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      • #48
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        Thanks, B8C. I'm rep-point challenged.
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        • #49
          Re: Practice Facilities and Artificial Surface

          Originally posted by Jacked_Up View Post
          I'll guess that the vast majority of SDSU road games are played on Field Turf or some other artificial surface. Doesn't that put the Jacks at a competitive disadvantage?
          Given that most of our games are biennial home and home conference games, wouldn't it follow, then, that a majority that come into Coughlin play on artificial surface? Doesn't that put them at a competitive disadvantage? The most resourceful teams win games in the elements. Football is not Robot Games or Bumper Cars, it's made to be played outdoors, in the elements. You're right on that, Zooropa.

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          • #50
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            Originally posted by zooropa View Post
            Who's more likely to slip? The SDSU kicker that's used to playing and practicing on grass, and in iffy field conditions, or the fieldturf kicker?
            I watched a three time winning Super Bowl kicker kick on grass for four years and his footing was still suspect at times on iffy field conditions. If the field is bad enough it doesn't matter who the kicker is.
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            • #51
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              I'm all for keeping outdoor football and welcoming SDSU opponents to the elements of sunshine, wind, rain and snow. I only oppose mud. In recent years, muddy turf probably has contributed to more Jacks' losses (at least one) than victories. I suspect mud has forced the occasional postponement or cancellation of practice, too. Also, with Field Turf, SDSU could compete to host events such as the state high school football playoffs.
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              • #52
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                Originally posted by JimmyJack View Post
                Has anybody seen the track facility on the BHS campus lately? With a few additions, it would be a very nice high school football facility. There are nice stands on the south side that were built over the summer. If they were extended the full length of the field on that side, they would have enough seating for home BHS fans. Add some lights and some temporary bleachers on the north side (over the track) and you'd have a pretty nice on-campus BHS football facility.

                Anybody know if there's any talk of bringing football back to the BHS campus?
                I do not believe so. I was told that BHS has a 25 year agreement to at CAS for puting in the lights. So my guess is the current contract still has around ten years on it. My guess is this agreement has already been or will be extended.

                It is also my understanding that SDSU financed a portion of the new track at BHS which only strengthens the idea for joint use facilities between the two parties. I think BHS/ Bobcat Backers would be very willing to finance a significant portion of the artificial turf at CAS if it would allow the partnership to continue and grow. Using CAF for a band competition I believe would help justify the cost and make it an easier sell to them.

                I also wonder if the home owners across the street from the BHS track would go for it or if they would complain and try to prevent the adding of lights from happening.
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                • #53
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                  Originally posted by SturgisJeff View Post
                  I doubt you'll ever see field turf or any articficial turf at Green Bay.

                  Hey anonymus neg rep thrower. How the heck does this comment deserve neg reps. Identify yourself when you ding so we can have a nice chat about your opinions.
                  Last edited by SturgisJeff; 05-04-2009, 10:40 AM.

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                  • #54
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                    Originally posted by GoJacks View Post
                    I also wonder if the home owners across the street from the BHS track would go for it or if they would complain and try to prevent the adding of lights from happening.
                    Don't know. That was total speculation on my part. But when I saw that grandstand going up last summer, I thought maybe it was going to be more than a track facility. As it is, they just need to plant some trees around it and it'll be a very nice track facility.
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                    • #55
                      Re: Practice Facilities and Artificial Surface

                      Originally posted by Jacked_Up View Post
                      SDSU could compete to host events such as the state high school football playoffs.
                      I don't think that's a likely scenario. I don't think the university sees that as a moneymaking opportunity. Nor do I think the BoR would allow/appreciate one regental institution biding to take an event away from another regental institution.

                      Re: Vinatieri & suspect field conditions

                      Fieldturf does not eliminate problems with water, it merely changes them.

                      Can the CAS field be improved? Obviously yes. Is the only valid improvement fieldturf? IMO, no. Should the Jacks have a fieldturf practice facility? Yes. As part of a fieldhouse.

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                      • #56
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                        I like grass at CAS but I don't like grass at CAS on a Saturday after a muddy Friday night high school football game. We have been lucky the last couple of years that there has not been a repeat of that game I won't refer specifically to. Generally speaking, we have a definite home turf advantage and I don't want to lose that.

                        A fieldhouse with fieldturf should be an expectation, I hope it happens sooner than later.

                        Outdoor fieldturf does not prevent all weather complications, rain and snow still lead to a slick surface, just not nearly as unstable as natural turf. I like the grass, it can be improved, I wouldn't be heart broken if fieldturf replaced the natural surface.
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                        • #57
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                          Originally posted by jackmd View Post
                          I don't like grass at CAS on a Saturday after a muddy Friday night high school football game.
                          Not being much of a Bobcat fan (or, in fact, a Bobcat fan at all), how often does CAS host back-to-back games?

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                          • #58
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                            Originally posted by SturgisJeff View Post
                            Hey anonymus neg rep thrower. How the heck does this comment deserve neg reps. Identify yourself when you ding so we can have a nice chat about your opinions.
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                            • #59
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                              Originally posted by zooropa View Post
                              Not being much of a Bobcat fan (or, in fact, a Bobcat fan at all), how often does CAS host back-to-back games?
                              BHS plays 4 home games a year. If things go well they never do. But usually it happens once or twice.
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                              • #60
                                Re: Practice Facilities and Artificial Surface

                                I currently coach in high School in Texas. This last summer we got a new artificial surface (Astro Play). With the change in technology it is difficult to tell the difference between the two at times. It allows us to practice anytime we want and the five soccer games they play on it in one week doesn't tear up the field anymore.

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