2021 Fall, Polls and Sagarin Rankings

[Prairiehaas]

The current Massey Composite has:

1. NDSU
2. SDSU
3. EWU
4. SIU
5 JMU
6. SHSU
7. MT SU
8. Villanova
9. USDr
10. MO SU
11. UNI
12. UM
13. Harvard
14. UC Davis
15. Dartmouth
16. SE LA
17. Princeton
18. UIW
19. KSU
20. ETSU

Of course for this discussion Harvard, Dartmouth and Princeton may be ignored.

[Roy]

The early Massey Composite this morning with only 5 reporting has us at #3 behind the Bison and Sam Houston St. Some people still think we are a pretty good football team.

The good news is that we can be better!

[jakejc795]

The early Massey Composite this morning with only 5 reporting has us at #3 behind the Bison and Sam Houston St. Some people still think we are a pretty good football team.

The good news is that we can be better!

Looks like UNI dropped a spot, with 'Yotes now at #17 (and Penguins at #37)

[JackJD]

I skipped a week (blaming Hobo Day letdown).

SAGARIN: Top 25 FCS teams in the Week 9 Sagarin ratings (games through October 30, 2021):

The first number is the rank among just FCS teams. The second number is the Sagarin rank for the team as determined among all 258 D1 teams. The MVFC teams not in the top 25 are listed below by their overall D-1 ranking projected by Sagarin.

The USA-Today/Sagarin site:
https://sagarin.usatoday.com/2021-2/...-ratings-2021/


1 62 North Dakota State MVFC
2 66 South Dakota State MVFC

3 87 Northern Iowa MVFC
4 94 Sam Houston State AQ7
5 99 Eastern Washington BIG SKY
6 101 Southern Illinois MVFC
7 107 Montana State BIG SKY
8 109 Missouri State MVFC
9 111 Montana BIG SKY
10 115 South Dakota MVFC
11 117 Weber State BIG SKY
12 118 SE Louisiana SOUTHLAND
13 119 North Dakota MVFC
14 122 Princeton IVY LEAGUE
15 124 Sacramento State BIG SKY
16 126 Chattanooga SOUTHERN
17 127 UC Davis BIG SKY
18 128 Villanova COLONIAL
19 131 Kennesaw State BIG SOUTH
20 134 Harvard IVY LEAGUE
21 138 Incarnate Word SOUTHLAND
22 139 East Tennessee State SOUTHERN
23 140 Monmouth-NJ BIG SOUTH
24 141 Dartmouth IVY LEAGUE
25 145 Central Arkansas AQ7

Sagarin ranking of remaining MVFC teams:

155 Illinois State
157 Youngstown State
167 Indiana State
168 Western Illinois

[JackJD]

THROUGH NOV 1 FCS POLLS


FCS Football Rankings -- Stats Perform top 22

FCS Coaches PollThrough Games NOV. 1, 2021

1	Sam Houston (40)	7-0
2	North Dakota State (10)	8-0
3	James Madison	7-1
4	Montana State	7-1
5	Eastern Washington	7-1
6	Southeastern Louisiana	7-1
7	Southern Illinois	6-2
8	UC Davis	7-1
9	South Dakota State	6-2
10	Villanova	6-2
11	Montana	6-2
12	Kennesaw State	7-1
13	Northern Iowa	5-3
14	ETSU	7-1
15	UT Martin	7-1
16	Sacramento State	6-2
17	Missouri State	5-3
18	VMI	6-2
19	Jackson State	7-1
T-20	Princeton	7-0
T-20	William and Mary	6-2
22	UIW	6-2

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/footba...orm-fcs-top-25


FCS Coaches Poll -- Games through Nov 1

1	Sam Houston (27)	7-0
2	North Dakota State	8-0
3	James Madison	7-1
4	Montana State	7-1
5	Eastern Washington	7-1
6	Southeastern Louisiana	7-1
7	UC Davis	7-1
8	Kennesaw State	7-1
9	Southern Illinois	6-2
10	Montana	6-2
11	UT Martin	7-1
12	South Dakota State	6-2
13	Villanova	6-2
14	East Tennessee State	7-1
15	Northern Iowa	5-3
16	Princeton	7-0
17	Jackson State	7-1
18	VMI	6-2
19	Eastern Kentucky	6-2
20	Missouri State

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/footba...s-bundle-asset

[Prairiehaas]

Massey Composite top 10:

1. NDSU
2. SHSU
3. JMU
4. SDSU
5. UNI
6. SIU
7. MSU Bobcats
8. EWU
9. MSU Bears
10. Princeton

Massey gives SDSU a .62 probability to win vs. NDSU with predicted score 28-24.

[JackJD]

SAGARIN: Top 25 FCS teams in the Week 10 Sagarin ratings (games through Nov 6, 2021):

The first number is the rank among just FCS teams. The second number is the Sagarin rank for the team as determined among all 258 D1 teams. The MVFC teams not in the top 25 are listed below by their overall D-1 ranking projected by Sagarin.

The USA-Today/Sagarin site:
https://sagarin.usatoday.com/2021-2/...-ratings-2021/

SDSU once again the top of the FCS teams at #61, with NDSU second at #63.

FCS (Sagarin)

1 (61) South Dakota State MVFC
2 (63) North Dakota State MVFC
3 (89) Sam Houston State AQ7
4 (90) James Madison COLONIAL
5 (100) Northern Iowa MVFC
6 (102) Montana State BIG SKY
7 (103) Missouri State MVFC
8 (105) Eastern Washington BIG SKY
9 (107) Southern Illinois MVFC
10 (110) Montana BIG SKY
11 (113) South Dakota MVFC
12 (117) SE Louisiana SOUTHLAND
13 (119) Villanova COLONIAL
14 (120) North Dakota MVFC
15 (121) Chattanooga SOUTHERN
16 (127) UC Davis BIG SKY
17 (128) Sacramento State BIG SKY
18 (129) Harvard IVY LEAGUE
19 (130) Weber State BIG SKY
20 (131) Kennesaw State BIG SOUTH
21 (132) Dartmouth IVY LEAGUE
22 (133) Incarnate Word SOUTHLAND
23 (135) Princeton IVY LEAGUE
24 (138) East Tennessee State SOUTHERN
25 (139) Stephen F. Austin AQ7

Sagarin rating of the remaining MVFC teams:
147 Illinois State
157 Youngstown State
167 Indiana State
174 Western Illinois

[JackJD]

Here's the top 16 from the FCS Coaches Poll following the 11/8/21 games. Looks like the Valley lost some love with NDSU demoted to #6 followed by the Jacks at #7. Oh well, its just a poll filled out by some guys who wished their teams could play with NDSU and SDSU and most of the rest of the Valley.

Place; School; Record; Points; Last week rating

1	Sam Houston (28)	8-0	700	1
2	James Madison	8-1	668	3
3	Montana State	8-1	631	4
4	UC Davis	8-1	561	7
5	Kennesaw State	8-1	539	8
6	North Dakota State	8-1	532	2
7	South Dakota State	7-2	525	12
8	Eastern Washington	7-2	498	5
9	Montana	7-2	489	10
10	UT Martin	8-1	464	11
11	Villanova	7-2	435	13
12	East Tennessee State	8-1	391	14
13	Southeastern Louisiana	7-2	373	6
14	Missouri State	6-3	333	20
15	Jackson State	8-1	272	17
16	Southern Illinois	6-3	258	9

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/footba...s-bundle-asset

[bigticket1]

Here's the top 16 from the FCS Coaches Poll following the 11/8/21 games. Looks like the Valley lost some love with NDSU demoted to #6 followed by the Jacks at #7. Oh well, its just a poll filled out by some guys who wished their teams could play with NDSU and SDSU and most of the rest of the Valley.

Place; School; Record; Points; Last week rating

1	Sam Houston (28)	8-0	700	1
2	James Madison	8-1	668	3
3	Montana State	8-1	631	4
4	UC Davis	8-1	561	7
5	Kennesaw State	8-1	539	8
6	North Dakota State	8-1	532	2
7	South Dakota State	7-2	525	12
8	Eastern Washington	7-2	498	5
9	Montana	7-2	489	10
10	UT Martin	8-1	464	11
11	Villanova	7-2	435	13
12	East Tennessee State	8-1	391	14
13	Southeastern Louisiana	7-2	373	6
14	Missouri State	6-3	333	20
15	Jackson State	8-1	272	17
16	Southern Illinois	6-3	258	9

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/footba...s-bundle-asset

It's amazing that UC Davis and Kennesaw State are at 4 & 5, above all the Valley teams when they fall below 7 Valley teams in the Sagarin rankings.

[JackJD]

Here's the top 18 in the Stats Perform FCS poll as of November 8. Looks more realistic than the Coach's Poll:

1	Sam Houston (50)	8-0	1,250	1
2	James Madison	8-1	1,180	3
3	Montana State	8-1	1,168	4
4	South Dakota State	7-2	1,045	9
5	North Dakota State	8-1	1,015	2
6	UC Davis	8-1	1,005	8
7	Eastern Washington	7-2	889	5
8	Villanova	7-2	872	10
9	Montana	7-2	799	11
10	Kennesaw State	8-1	778	12
11	ETSU	8-1	723	14
12	Sacramento State	7-2	624	16
13	UT Martin	8-1	622	15
14	Southeastern Louisiana	7-2	613	6
15	Southern Illinois	6-3	603	7
16	Missouri State	6-3	596	17
17	UIW	7-2	516	22
18	Jackson State	8-1	385	19

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/footba...orm-fcs-top-25

[filbert]

It's amazing that UC Davis and Kennesaw State are at 4 & 5, above all the Valley teams when they fall below 7 Valley teams in the Sagarin rankings.

It's apparent that the coaches mainly look just at the W-L record