RATINGS

[JACKGUY]

I noticed this morning that the Jacks didn't get any respect for their win over the #4 rated DII. Still not rated in the top #25. Maybe a win over Winona another top 25 team will earn us some respect.

[89rabbit]

Re: RATINGS

Bisonguy had this on the Bisonville.com board, and I thought you guys might be interested.

Bisonguy wrote:

Looks like NDSU moved up two spots in the Don Hansen poll, SDSU also moved into the 19 spot.

September 14, 2003
NCAA II Top 40
1 GRAND VALLEY STATE MI 2-0 21 TUSKEGEE AL 2-1
2 VALDOSTA STATE GA 2-0 22 CHADRON STATE NE 2-0
3 CARSON-NEWMAN TN 3-0 23 SOUTHERN ARKANSAS 2-0
4 TEXAS A&M-KINGSVILLE 0-1 24 FINDLAY OH 2-0
5 INDIANA PA 2-0 25 TARLETON STATE TX 1-1
6 SAGINAW VALLEY MI 2-0 26 EMPORIA STATE KS 2-0
7 CENTRAL MISSOURI 2-0 27 OUACHITS BAPTIST AR 1-0
8 NEBRASKA-OMAHA 2-1 28 PRESBYTERIAN SC 1-1
9 CATAWBA NC 2-0 29 ST. CLOUD STATE MN 2-1
10 PITTSBURG STATE KS 2-0 30 NORTH ALABAMA 2-0
11 EAST STROUDSBURG PA 2-0 31 NEBRASKA-KEARNEY 1-1
12 HARDING AR 1-0 32 BENTLEY MA 2-0
13 MINNESOTA-DULUTH 1-1 33 ALBANY STATE GA 2-1
14 WINONA STATE MN 3-0 34 CENTRAL OKLAHOMA 2-0
15 FAYETTEVILLE NC 2-0 35 DELTA STATE MS 2-0
16 CENTRAL WASHINGTON 1-2 36 CENTRAL ARKANSAS 2-0
17 NORTH DAKOTA STATE 2-1 37 EASTERN NEW MEXICO 2-0
18 NORTHWEST MISSOURI 1-1 38 WINSTON-SALEM NC 2-1
19 SOUTH DAKOTA STATE 1-1 39 BLOOMSBURG PA 1-1
20 SHIPPENSBURG PA 2-0 40 SOUTH DAKOTA 2-0

[bisonguy]

Re: RATINGS

All the polls are just plain stupid at this time of year. NWMSU should obviously be ranked behind SDSU. SDSU is a better team and proved it on the field. Most polls have a double-edged sword. On one hand they say ""What have you done lately?", on the other they don't move people around if they haven't done anything lately. It's hard to move into the polls, and it's hard to move out. I would have dropped NWMSU out of the top 25, especially after their one TD win over Mankato. If they deserve to be in the top 25, they can win their way back.

[89rabbit]

Re: RATINGS

bisonguy also left this on the bisonville board.

bisonguy wrote:

My new favorite poll for the week- The Dopke poll
NWMSU is about where they belong, along with someone else.


Dopke 2003 Division II Route 66 Rankings

September 15, 2003
1 Grand Valley State (2-0) Lakers still have plenty of offensive punch to defend their title.
2 Valdosta State (2-0) Blazers perched atop the lethal Gulf South.
3 Central Missouri State (2-0) Mules have their opportunities awaiting them already.
4 Carson-Newman (3-0) Eagles winning their feathers quickly.
5 Pittsburg State (2-0) Gorillas poised for big things.
6 North Dakota State (2-1) Bison not ducking any opponents.
7 Indiana, PA (2-0) Indians are just plain tough stuff.
8 Central Arkansas (2-0) Bears becoming more balanced on offense.
9 Catawba (2-0) Indians need more punch on offense.
10 Winona State (3-0) Warriors are making a statement.
11 Saginaw Valley State (2-0) Cardinals need to stiffen on defense.
12 East Stroudsburg (2-0) Warriors have their hands full in the PSAC.
13 Southern Arkansas (2-0) Muleriders one of the many solid GSC clubs.
14 North Alabama (2-0) Lions are looking to be Kings of the Gulf South.
15 Texas A&M-Kingsville (0-1) Javelinas record tarnished by tough schedule.
16 Findlay (2-0) Oilers will get their chance to show their stuff.
17 Delta State (2-0) Statesmen are another lethal ingredient to the GSC mix.
18 Emporia State (2-0) Hornets will have their shot to show their sting.
19 Nebraska-Omaha (2-1) Mavericks cannot be ignored in the NCC.
20 South Dakota State (1-1) Jacks learning the tough lessons of stiff scheduling.
21 Tarleton State (1-1) Texans are a failed field goal away from perfection.
22 Shippensburg (2-0) Shipps getting it done on both sides of the ball.
23 South Dakota (2-0) Coyotes start is far from being ugly.
24 St. Cloud State (2-1) Huskies will need to regroup as the nCC looks tough.
25 Fayetteville State (2-0) Broncos need to pull it together if they're to repeat.
26 Northwest Missouri (1-1)
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63 Mesa State (1-1)
64 Adams State (1-1)
65 Arkansas Tech (1-1)
66 North Dakota (1-1)

[bisonguy]

Re: RATINGS

I don't understand why the D2football.com poll won't drop someone (NWMSU) that deserves to be dropped. They're either ignorant, or scared to drop a team that isn't performing well that was overrated earlier. The Don Hansen and Dopke both will drop somebody if they deserve it (see St. Cloud State). They can then earn their spot if they DESERVE it, not because the pollsters feel they will comeback later in the year.