USD moving up?

[jackmd]

Re: USD moving up?

Deep inside sources in Vermillion say there's serious consideration of the question:  Should USD move to D-1.

I think it is perfectly reasonable for USD to consider the question of moving up to D-1.

As for considering actually moving up, not such a good idea.  Know what I mean?

[sdman]

Re: USD moving up?

I would love to have usd and und and even uno, and scsu and msu move up and reconstitute a d1 ncc. Now I know there are a lot of hard feelings but the higher ups need to get past that kind of petty behavior and do what is best for the univ. Granted we would have to wait longer for tourney bids but anyone who has actually witnessed a men's bb game this year knows we are a long long way away from any tourney bid now or in the near future. Now it may hurt the women's basketball team who have more talent but they are not much of a revenue producer so they will just have to take one for the good of the U in this case. Probably won't happen but it would be nice.

[90Jackrabbit]

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Now it may hurt the women's basketball team who have more talent but they are not much of a revenue producer so they will just have to take one for the good of the U in this case.

Men's attendance for 12 games: 24,842 for an average of 2070/ game.

Women's attendance for 9 games: 16,997 for an average of 1889/game.

The women are holding their own in producing revenue in terms of ticket sales. I vote for getting in an existing conference and being tournament eligible at the end of our five year transition period. The men may be a ways off from a tourney bid, but our women's team could compete for a conference championship and a tourney bid in some of the conferences we have been looking at.

[thebluehatman]

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it's nice to know that "south dakota's team" is only 3 miles from the nebraska border...next thing you know they will be Nebraska's team too. ;D at least we are 15 miles from the border.

[jackmd]

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I would love to have usd and und and even uno, and scsu and msu move up and reconstitute a d1 ncc.  Now I know there are a lot of hard feelings but the higher ups need to get past that kind of petty behavior and do what is best for the univ.  Granted we would have to wait longer for tourney bids but anyone who has actually witnessed a men's bb game this year knows we are a long long way away from any tourney bid now or in the near future.  Now it may hurt the women's basketball team who have more talent but they are not much of a revenue producer so they will just have to take one for the good of the U in this case.  Probably won't happen but it would be nice.

Won't happen, not even worth thinking about right now.  The higher ups realize this and the sooner you do the better.  Not saying it can't happen in a decade or two, but not right now.  I assure you we would have waited if there was any possibility of a "DI NCC" in the near future.

[filbert]

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it's nice to know that "south dakota's team" is only 3 miles from the nebraska border...next thing you know they will be Nebraska's team too. ;D at least we are 15 miles from the border.

How about "Sioux City's team?" They need one, after all . . .

[JACKGUYII]

Re: USD moving up?

I guess this is USD's idea of updating their schedule!

http://www.usdcoyotes.com/sports/foo...elease_id=2995

[Rabbitlivinginverm]

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I guess they (Coyote fans) shouldn't have been so hard on us for playing a NAIA team.

[JBNJBQ]

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it's nice to know that "south dakota's team" is only 3 miles from the nebraska border...next thing you know they will be Nebraska's team too. ;D at least we are 15 miles from the border.

Naw, following usdII's lead uno was quick to claim that title in Nebraska.

uno is Nebraska's team! : : : : :


;D ;D ;D ;D ;D


JBNJBQ

[Dakota]

Re: USD moving up?

What conference is SDSU in and who is in there with them?

Just curious.

Football - The Great West Football Conference.
http://greatwestfootball.collegesports.com/
(SDSU, NDSU, Cal Poly, UC Davis, Southren Utah)

Soccer - United Soccer League
http://www.ipfw.edu/athletics/United...uscdefault.htm
(SDSU, NDSU, Utah Valley State, IPFW, Delaware State, Howard University, Longwood University, South Carolina State)

Basketball - United Basketball Conference.
(SDSU, North Dakota State, Indiana Purdue-Fort Wayne, New Jersey Institute of Technology, Texas-Pan American and Utah Valley State)

Swimming and Diving - Mid-Continent Conference
http://www.mid-con.com/sports/swimming/
(Oakland, Eastern Illinois, Western Illinois, IUPUI, Centenary, South Dakota State, Valparaiso)

Wrestling- On the verge with a number of western schools, no name released. Will be a wrestling only confrence. (Air Force, Wyoming, SDSU, NDSU are a few of the names on the list).

[Dakota]

Re: USD moving up?

Deep inside sources in Vermillion say there's serious consideration of the question:  Should USD move to D-1.

That doesn't mean they're making the move but some (coaches) are acknowledging that it's in discussion.  That's not too surprising since UND is moving in that direction.  USD has to consider all options.

I'm betting: the Yotes will move up -- and a lot of their alums will scream bloody murder.

I think that USD should stay DII and get BHSU and NSU to come over to the NCC. UND needs to stay DII also, as both ND and SD only need on DI school. Now if St. Cloud and UNO were to move up and replaced by said school mentioned above, that would work.

NDSU, SDSU, St. Cloud and UNO would be a good selling point or starting point for a league

[NightHawk78]

Re: USD moving up?

Just a few quick points:

1) The basketball "conference" is actually more of a scheduling arrangement that allows each of the teams to schedule home games during Jan. and Feb., particularly when the students are back in class. This should prevent the repeat of this season when the women's BB team is going a month between home games.

2) The wrestling conference has been on the "verge" of creation for quite some time. Hopefully, it'll be in place next season when our wrestlers are eligible to compete for the national tournament!

3) No school is eager to join the NCC at this point since it's on the verge of collapse. USD will likely be left scrambling if UND and SCSU move up.

[West_River_Jack]

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BHSU and SDSM&T need to stay together for scheduling purposes. It is probably counterproductive to consider adding one without the other.

I think that USD should stay DII and get BHSU and NSU to come over to the NCC. UND needs to stay DII also, as both ND and SD only need on DI school.

[JBB123]

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The only way a move up by either of the universities makes sense is if they have an inside track on a conference invite.  If not, there would be 4 of us, the SUs completing their transition and the U's just starting theirs.  

If the BSC expands by 1 they will have a choice of 4 teams.  If they want to go to two divisions they may need 3.  If the Mid Con is going to get bigger they need 2 from our area.  All the other options look about the same including the GWFC.  In almost any senario the universities are going to have to come to our door because we will be there first unless several different conferences step up to absorb us all.

They will need us for their limbo year, they will need us for future scheduling, they will need us to support their conference future.  In any event its very likely that SDSU and NDSU will be there first and have a deciding voice in their fate.

Change USD into SCSU or add them to the mix, its still the same deal, even if enough of them move up and want to form a new NCC.  In almost any situation they will be looking our way, critically dependent on us.

[Dakota]

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Just a few quick points:

1) The basketball "conference" is actually more of a scheduling arrangement that allows each of the teams to schedule home games during Jan. and Feb., particularly when the students are back in class. This should prevent the repeat of this season when the women's BB team is going a month between home games.

You are correct BUT the GWFC was also created for same reason and it could (if teams could be found) be around awhile. Plus in a short time it has gained respect nation wide. I see no reason why the BB conference couldn't end the same way. If a couple of these programs (SDSU included) have good success next year. That will give creditablity to the UBC.

This is a home for now even, if it's just for the schedule. We are being proactive and when you do that you just never know where this will take us.

I say buckle up and hope for the best, SDSU maybe the (or one of) schools that puts this basketball conference over the top, and the women have made a good start.

Think about it - UBC team NDSU upsets ranked Wisconsin, UBC team - SDSU makes WNIT.
Things go up from there.

These are our homes for now, so I say we just enjoy make something of them, till we move.