Seed Scenarios

[Gojacks2487]

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Make it easy with 16 teams. Two from each of the P5 conferences, one each from the 5 lower conferences and one at large. Seed the entire field. The first round will eliminate the lesser conference champions after which there should be some exciting football.

I think it should be less because there is basically a 1st round with all the conf championships. My vote would 8 put a precedent on winning your conf championship and leave room for 2 wild card conference teams or P5 teams that got beat out of championship ex Alabama or Notre Dame-independent

[Prairiehaas]

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There are 10 FBS conferences. Make it a 12-team playoff, seeded 1-12 among the 10 conference champions and 2 at-large teams, and give teams 1-4 a first round bye. If it's good enough for FCS it ought to work for FBS. (The annual pummeling of the Sun Belt champion by the #5 seed would be just additional comic relief.)

Make it easy with 16 teams. Two from each of the P5 conferences, one each from the 5 lower conferences and one at large. Seed the entire field. The first round will eliminate the lesser conference champions after which there should be some exciting football.

[91jack]

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The FCS playoff doesn’t represent the top 24 teams in FCS. The automatic qualifier needs to be eliminated and conference strength has to be considered more. How about some non conference games at the beginnng of the year to showcase conferences, CAA ( any other) vs MVFC to show conference strength. It’s are to watch first round games when the underdog has no chance of winnng or even playing well.

I think you should look at it as a 16 team playoff with play-in games. If you do that there are only San Diego (ORV), Furman (#25), New Hampshire (#20) and UNI (#21) that weren't rated in the top 18 in the final FCS rankings that would have made it.
I put the top 18 teams because NC A&T played Grambling and some championship game instead of getting into the playoffs.

There are some slight problems but not many.
1) San Diego and Northern Arizona were both in the "other receiving votes" category so one of the would have made the 16 team playoff while Western Illinois (#10) had to play Weber State (#8) to eliminate one of them.
2) Furman (#25) did beat Elon (#17) so they basically won their play-in game.
I know that final ranking are not exactly what they should be but the 16 team playoff isn't really bad.

[slosho]

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Mike Leech Weigh's in. This guy is too good!

https://twitter.com/BradGalli/status/937885597938614274

[filbert]

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Most teams that play in a Bowl game only play one game.
If you are in the national championship playoffs, you have to play two games if you make it to the championship game. The more teams you add to the playoffs the more games you add to the season. The only way to solve that would be to play less games in the regular season.
I think that is what they do in South Dakota in high school football playoffs. I THINK classes 11AAA and 11AA play one more regular season game but they play one less game in the playoffs.
There have been a few players that sat out their bowl games last year because they didn't want to get injured and miss out on their millions of dollars.
Would you rather play 3 or 4 games to win a national championship or make sure you stay healthy to make millions of dollars?

In answer to your question--how many players have sat out of the FBS championship playoff games?

[91jack]

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And yet . . . Bowl games.

Most teams that play in a Bowl game only play one game.
If you are in the national championship playoffs, you have to play two games if you make it to the championship game. The more teams you add to the playoffs the more games you add to the season. The only way to solve that would be to play less games in the regular season.
I think that is what they do in South Dakota in high school football playoffs. I THINK classes 11AAA and 11AA play one more regular season game but they play one less game in the playoffs.
There have been a few players that sat out their bowl games last year because they didn't want to get injured and miss out on their millions of dollars.
Would you rather play 3 or 4 games to win a national championship or make sure you stay healthy to make millions of dollars?

[Justwin]

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And yet . . . Bowl games.

Which is why we are seeing players opting not to play in them. Can't say I blame them.

[MontanaRabbit]

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This might be a conversation for another thread, but imo the FBS playoffs needs to go to 8. That way all P5 conference champions would be in plus 3 at large teams. In that scenario, you could see an undefeated G5 team sneak in if they had a very good resume. Even then, idk if a G5 team would deserve it, because there's just a huge difference between the P5 and G5, which is why the P5 should just go on their own and the P5 should make a conference with the FCS, which is a conversation for yet another thread.

I vividly remember when Boise State beat Oklahoma in the Fiesta Bowl. I'm a fan of letting teams prove if they belong or not on the field instead of using metrics or perception or whatever to decide if they belong.

[filbert]

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The biggest problem with expanding rounds in the playoffs is injuries. Most teams are held together with duct tape at this point in the season.

And yet . . . Bowl games.

[Justwin]

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Yikes, I can already hear the bellowing that the P5 conferences would produce every year when 4 out of the 5 G5 teams get blown out. I just don't think the G5 is worthy of 5 teams, even in a 12 team format. Would it be "fair"? Sure. However, look at what being "fair" has done to some of the high school championships in SD (made them a joke). Fortunately, there have been some recent rule changes for the better.

The biggest problem with expanding rounds in the playoffs is injuries. Most teams are held together with duct tape at this point in the season.

[CappinHard]

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There are 10 FBS conferences. Make it a 12-team playoff, seeded 1-12 among the 10 conference champions and 2 at-large teams, and give teams 1-4 a first round bye. If it's good enough for FCS it ought to work for FBS. (The annual pummeling of the Sun Belt champion by the #5 seed would be just additional comic relief.)

Yikes, I can already hear the bellowing that the P5 conferences would produce every year when 4 out of the 5 G5 teams get blown out. I just don't think the G5 is worthy of 5 teams, even in a 12 team format. Would it be "fair"? Sure. However, look at what being "fair" has done to some of the high school championships in SD (made them a joke). Fortunately, there have been some recent rule changes for the better.

[SoDakJack]

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This might be a conversation for another thread, but imo the FBS playoffs needs to go to 8. That way all P5 conference champions would be in plus 3 at large teams. In that scenario, you could see an undefeated G5 team sneak in if they had a very good resume. Even then, idk if a G5 team would deserve it, because there's just a huge difference between the P5 and G5, which is why the P5 should just go on their own and the P5 should make a conference with the FCS, which is a conversation for yet another thread.

I have always thought that either 5 (#1 gets a bye) or 6 (#1 & #2 get a bye). Right now there is no advantage to being #1 vs being #4.

[filbert]

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This might be a conversation for another thread, but imo the FBS playoffs needs to go to 8. That way all P5 conference champions would be in plus 3 at large teams. In that scenario, you could see an undefeated G5 team sneak in if they had a very good resume. Even then, idk if a G5 team would deserve it, because there's just a huge difference between the P5 and G5, which is why the P5 should just go on their own and the P5 should make a conference with the FCS, which is a conversation for yet another thread.

There are 10 FBS conferences. Make it a 12-team playoff, seeded 1-12 among the 10 conference champions and 2 at-large teams, and give teams 1-4 a first round bye. If it's good enough for FCS it ought to work for FBS. (The annual pummeling of the Sun Belt champion by the #5 seed would be just additional comic relief.)

[CappinHard]

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I was talking about the previous BCS system that used computers to rank the teams and then we magically had this national title game. The four team playoff is light years ahead of that, but if you're not in a P5 conference you've got virtually zero shot to get in, even if you go undefeated. I'd like to at least see the "little guys" get a chance.

This might be a conversation for another thread, but imo the FBS playoffs needs to go to 8. That way all P5 conference champions would be in plus 3 at large teams. In that scenario, you could see an undefeated G5 team sneak in if they had a very good resume. Even then, idk if a G5 team would deserve it, because there's just a huge difference between the P5 and G5, which is why the P5 should just go on their own and the P5 should make a conference with the FCS, which is a conversation for yet another thread.

[Justwin]

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You can not compare football to basketball. They are totally different!