GDT: @ UNI for the MVFC title!

[MontanaRabbit]

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As a guy who watches 95% of the games through ESPN3, which means I get to listen to the other team's announcers for all road games, Tyler and Struck do a great job. Hank and Tom do a great job, too. Anyone who listened to the game this weekend on ESPN3 and were subjected to the UNI crew knows how lucky we have it. I can't remember the name of the color guy, but it was a former player who seemingly understood about 25% of game rules. He kept saying he thought the first SDSU interception should have been negated because the UNI QB was across the line of scrimmage when he threw the football. He brought it up before they went to break and after they came back from break. When the official confirmed the pick, he responded by saying "I guess they couldn't tell if he was across the line of scrimmage when he threw it." It was only after the play by play guy gently pointed out that it wouldn't matter where the QB threw the ball from, if it was intercepted by the Defense the penalty would be declined. He also said the throw from Wieneke to TC was "clearly a broken play". Again, the play by play guy had to point out the fact that all of the O-line were blocking for TC probably meant it was a designed screen to the QB. It was like that all game.

More often than not, the away team is comprised of a decent play by play guy with varying degrees of "homer" in him. The color guy is always an ex-player or coach who openly roots for the home team and sees all penalties/plays through homer vision and has very little to add to the game other than to make you want to throw things at your TV. Say what you will about Struck's voice, but dude knows his football. He calls out coverages, how a certain play unfolded and what happened to get to that point, game plans, etc. He knows his X's & O's as well as anyone you'll listen too.

I'm in the same boat. Listen to the announcers of our peers and you quickly realize how lucky we are.

[JimmyJack]

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Criticism is a good thing. If the things JimmyJacks says about Tyler's work ethic are true, I have to believe Tyler would welcome honest critiques and work to improve.

A couple years ago Scotty Kwas was awful at giving score updates. He'd literally go game minutes without giving us the score. I remember it being discussed here. He's gotten a lot better at that. A LOT.

I have to think doing play by play is difficult to do well. The good ones make it seem effortless even though they are talking to us listeners, listening to the guy in the studio, planning what will be said at the next timeout, and dealing with a plethora of other distractions.

Tyler is actually a great story. He has always wanted to do play-by-play. As a kid, he would record games on a VCR and play them back so he could record his own play-by-play on a cassette recorder. You should see how he prepares for games. He has this huge piece of poster board that he pastes all the names, facts, statistics, human-interest notes on for easy reference during the game. He does that for every game. One other thing you will note is that he doesn't trip over any names of the opposing players. That's because he memorizes the names and numbers of key players before the games, for every sport he calls. The guy works his butt off. There's a whole lot more to play-by-play than just showing up and saying what you see. It's the preparation that sets him apart, the easy access to facts and statistics and stories. Next time you listen, make note of all the extra information that Tyler brings to the table during his calls. Also note how the production flows without any awkward moments or pauses or people talking over each other. That's Tyler's ease with the medium showing through. His work is impressive and his preparation and natural abilities are why he's considered a very, very talented broadcaster by people who know that business.

[MilwaukeeJacksAlum]

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As a guy who watches 95% of the games through ESPN3, which means I get to listen to the other team's announcers for all road games, Tyler and Struck do a great job. Hank and Tom do a great job, too. Anyone who listened to the game this weekend on ESPN3 and were subjected to the UNI crew knows how lucky we have it. I can't remember the name of the color guy, but it was a former player who seemingly understood about 25% of game rules. He kept saying he thought the first SDSU interception should have been negated because the UNI QB was across the line of scrimmage when he threw the football. He brought it up before they went to break and after they came back from break. When the official confirmed the pick, he responded by saying "I guess they couldn't tell if he was across the line of scrimmage when he threw it." It was only after the play by play guy gently pointed out that it wouldn't matter where the QB threw the ball from, if it was intercepted by the Defense the penalty would be declined. He also said the throw from Wieneke to TC was "clearly a broken play". Again, the play by play guy had to point out the fact that all of the O-line were blocking for TC probably meant it was a designed screen to the QB. It was like that all game.

More often than not, the away team is comprised of a decent play by play guy with varying degrees of "homer" in him. The color guy is always an ex-player or coach who openly roots for the home team and sees all penalties/plays through homer vision and has very little to add to the game other than to make you want to throw things at your TV. Say what you will about Struck's voice, but dude knows his football. He calls out coverages, how a certain play unfolded and what happened to get to that point, game plans, etc. He knows his X's & O's as well as anyone you'll listen too.

[goon]

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Agree. He's an above average announcer and does a good job of not being a fan. Same for our beat writers. The other DI school has unbearable announcers and a beat writer that is clearly a fan although he does a much better job if keeping it low key.

My only complaint is when they don't give the score and the clock time often enough. That should be part of almost every play in FB or possession in basketball. It's easy to say "3rd and 4 with 7 mins in the 2nd quarter or 68-60 with 2 minutes in the game....

I think TM does a good job giving time and score updates. The guy who does the women's game is horrible at it. He doesn't say it till there is a time out or a commercial break. if you tune in after the game starts, you can go several minutes just guessing what the score might be.

With TM he does sometimes get a little caught up in something descriptive while something big happened like a TO or a big shot etc, but he is very good and explaining how and what happened and very unbiased. Which is nice because then you think every call goes against us with a homer announcer, but with TM you know if he thought it was a bad call for either team or if either team got lucky.

[MontanaRabbit]

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This is a fair criticism. Some might argue that it adds to the experience by creating some additional suspense. Keeps fans on the edge of their seat, so to speak. But again, fair criticism.

Criticism is a good thing. If the things JimmyJacks says about Tyler's work ethic are true, I have to believe Tyler would welcome honest critiques and work to improve.

A couple years ago Scotty Kwas was awful at giving score updates. He'd literally go game minutes without giving us the score. I remember it being discussed here. He's gotten a lot better at that. A LOT.

I have to think doing play by play is difficult to do well. The good ones make it seem effortless even though they are talking to us listeners, listening to the guy in the studio, planning what will be said at the next timeout, and dealing with a plethora of other distractions.

[Nidaros]

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Tyler's wife, my former nurse loves to talk SDSU sports and Tyler. It does not matter how negative we might get here, Tyler has his biggest fan at home and that what counts to him I would presume. As many have said SDSU is lucky to have have him.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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My only occasional issue with his broadcasts is with the picture painting. IMO, Tyler sometimes gets a little too caught up in painting the picture that it takes too long to get to what actually happened on the field. He's painting the picture, and I'm asking, "Did he catch the ball?" or "Was it a touchdown?" or "Did he make the shot?" Sometimes you can tell from the crowd reaction, but not always, especially on the road. Overall, though, he does a fine job.

This is a fair criticism. Some might argue that it adds to the experience by creating some additional suspense. Keeps fans on the edge of their seat, so to speak. But again, fair criticism.

[jackmd]

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My only occasional issue with his broadcasts is with the picture painting. IMO, Tyler sometimes gets a little too caught up in painting the picture that it takes too long to get to what actually happened on the field. He's painting the picture, and I'm asking, "Did he catch the ball?" or "Was it a touchdown?" or "Did he make the shot?" Sometimes you can tell from the crowd reaction, but not always, especially on the road. Overall, though, he does a fine job.

Agree. He's an above average announcer and does a good job of not being a fan. Same for our beat writers. The other DI school has unbearable announcers and a beat writer that is clearly a fan although he does a much better job if keeping it low key.

My only complaint is when they don't give the score and the clock time often enough. That should be part of almost every play in FB or possession in basketball. It's easy to say "3rd and 4 with 7 mins in the 2nd quarter or 68-60 with 2 minutes in the game....

[mango4]

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Yes it is. His job is to call the game with some form of an unbiased approach to give an accurate description of events. I'm going to on a limb and say your a Vikings fan and love Paul Allen


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I'm a Vikings fan and can't stand PA. I use to listen his daily radio show and I had to stop because his homerism started bothering me.


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[jacksfaninne]

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IMO, his job is to paint a word picture of what is actually happening on the field/court.

My only occasional issue with his broadcasts is with the picture painting. IMO, Tyler sometimes gets a little too caught up in painting the picture that it takes too long to get to what actually happened on the field. He's painting the picture, and I'm asking, "Did he catch the ball?" or "Was it a touchdown?" or "Did he make the shot?" Sometimes you can tell from the crowd reaction, but not always, especially on the road. Overall, though, he does a fine job.

[MontanaRabbit]

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Yes it is. His job is to call the game with some form of an unbiased approach to give an accurate description of events. I'm going to on a limb and say your a Vikings fan and love Paul Allen


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I can't stand that dude! I actually enjoy when the Vikings lose in large part because of this guy. His call of the missed FG last year by Blair Walsh is priceless.

[thumper_76]

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No it isn't...his job is to call the game for the Jacks fans who are listening.

Yes it is. His job is to call the game with some form of an unbiased approach to give an accurate description of events. I'm going to on a limb and say your a Vikings fan and love Paul Allen


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[MontanaRabbit]

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IMO, his job is to paint a word picture of what is actually happening on the field/court. Not telling people what they want to hear.

Everyone's preferences are different. I think he does a phenomenal job. You don't. That's OK.

I've listened to pretty much everyone else in the conference (and many non-conference) via their video feeds for as long as we've been in the league, and there is no comparison. He isn't perfect (and I'm sure he would be the first to admit it), but his talent, professionalism, and preparation are much better than the norm for FCS.

This^

If someone thinks Tyler is bad I challenge them to listen to the announcers of some of our peers. You'll find Tyler is head and shoulders above them. It's really not even close.

Case in point. The guy on the WNAX feed for the Idaho game last night. He was supposedly the "long-time" radio voice for football and basketball. Tyler is WAY better than him. More prepared, and does a better job of describing the action.

Nothing is worse than a homer announcer. Sure Tyler is part of the "Jackrabbit Network", but that doesn't mean we don't have opposing fans tuning in.

[Nidaros]

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Poor boxer boy!! To think his one remark trigger all this discussion.

[Jacked_Up]

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Holy smokes. Jacks fans are getting awfully spoiled. Tyler does a great job on the radio and on other venues. SDSU and Jackrabbit fans are very fortunate to have him. He's quick, knowledgeable and has a good sense of humor. He's an easy listen.