GDT: @ NDSU for the Marker!

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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I think we are in complete agreement. It is a tough one to judge. The video does not look good, but it is a full contact sport. Emotions are high and he has to get the player down. I'm not looking for anyone to say he's guilty...it just isn't an obvious innocence like some are saying.

It is hard to judge. I will say that if the twist happened after the #8 was brought down or the play was blown dead, I would be more inclined to call it dirty. As it is, play was ongoing and #8 was still fighting, I'm inclined to believe Roseboom was just trying to make a football play.

[Nidaros]

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I actually know the kid personally. There is no way that he would do something like that to injure on purpose. He is a great person as well as football player. Christian slipped down to the feet of Bruce and tried to get Bruce to the ground. It is an unfortunate play that he got twisted up like that. However, Christian is not that type of person.

In his defense and having watched No 8, on film for a week, Christian knew this guy could slip away very easy and score six. The fact that he got a hold of his foot meant that you dont let go. Now if Anderson would have went down if he would have been using his head, but instead he twisted in the opposite direction and brought his own injury on himself. Christian is one of the shining stars on defense and he should not be punished for his tackling method. Decades ago, when I was playing B squad football at Brookings High. They told us time and time again to aim for the ankles when tackling a runner.

Bulldog and everyone else from NW Iowa should be very proud of Christian.

[TransAmBison]

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Yes I regret using the word BULL, and watching this play on the video link it does not look good for Christian Rozeboom No 2. He has been one of our bight spots on defense and his actions here are not really that honorable, but its a fast moving game. Having a foot hold you dont want to let go.

I think we are in complete agreement. It is a tough one to judge. The video does not look good, but it is a full contact sport. Emotions are high and he has to get the player down. I'm not looking for anyone to say he's guilty...it just isn't an obvious innocence like some are saying.

[Nidaros]

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I'm saying you are making a definite statement by calling "bull". Whether it was intentional or not is 50/50. Also, as a team I would never accuse SDSU of trying to injure. Individual players, who knows. Like I said, I'm not making the accusation either...just no knowing the intent.

Here's the play. https://youtu.be/Vh4Mw_1jBfM?t=15m18s

Yes I regret using the word BULL, and watching this play on the video link it does not look good for Christian Rozeboom No 2. He has been one of our bight spots on defense and his actions here are not really that honorable, but its a fast moving game. Having a foot hold you dont want to let go.

[WestSideRabbit]

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out of curiosity where is Cal poly? whats their record?

17th. https://twitter.com/FCS_STATS/status/788065532876558337

[goon]

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SDSU is also now ranked #7 in the STATS media poll and NDSU is #4

out of curiosity where is Cal poly? whats their record?

[Jacked4Days]

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SDSU is also now ranked #7 in the STATS media poll and NDSU is #4

[Jacked4Days]

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Klieman doesn't come out and say it, but it sounds like he believes it was intentional. He says "I hate to see it happen and the way it happened, that's just not good for football". I just don't see it. Even if that was an NDSU player trying to tackle an SDSU player, I wouldn't call it dirty, he felt that Bruce was trying to get away and hadn't gone down yet, so he did anything he could to make sure that Bruce went down.

I actually know the kid personally. There is no way that he would do something like that to injure on purpose. He is a great person as well as football player. Christian slipped down to the feet of Bruce and tried to get Bruce to the ground. It is an unfortunate play that he got twisted up like that. However, Christian is not that type of person.

[goon]

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You are correct. There's only one person who knows the intent #2 had.

As he made the tackle, he could very well have been thinking "I'm gonna break this dudes ankle, f'n Bison scum".

He just as easily, and more likely could have been thinking "good lord these guys are hard to bring down this must be why they're 5x champions, I can't let him go".

I tend to lean the latter.

I just happened to watch the SDSU highlight film right after reading about all the controversy , that's why when I saw the Weineke tackle, I figured I'd bring it up on AGS.

If you look hard enough you could say the Bison dude on that play was trying to crank backwards on Weineke's leg. I don't think that's the case, but it's easy to pick out plays like that is my point. It's football...I'd argue that everyone is "trying to injure" everyone else on every play.

Guys get tackled like that every game. surprised honestly more people don't get hurt from it. WRs get a guy on their ankle like all the time that twist or grab on the lower leg to make a tackle. when a guy has you low and you keep trying to go forward, the pile that game to tackle it was the opposite force he was going. just a bad break, pardon the pun.

[RowdyRabbit]

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I'm saying you are making a definite statement by calling "bull". Whether it was intentional or not is 50/50. Also, as a team I would never accuse SDSU of trying to injure. Individual players, who knows. Like I said, I'm not making the accusation either...just no knowing the intent.

Here's the play. https://youtu.be/Vh4Mw_1jBfM?t=15m18s

You are correct. There's only one person who knows the intent #2 had.

As he made the tackle, he could very well have been thinking "I'm gonna break this dudes ankle, f'n Bison scum".

He just as easily, and more likely could have been thinking "good lord these guys are hard to bring down this must be why they're 5x champions, I can't let him go".

I tend to lean the latter.

I just happened to watch the SDSU highlight film right after reading about all the controversy , that's why when I saw the Weineke tackle, I figured I'd bring it up on AGS.

If you look hard enough you could say the Bison dude on that play was trying to crank backwards on Weineke's leg. I don't think that's the case, but it's easy to pick out plays like that is my point

It's tackle football...I'd argue that everyone is "trying to injure" everyone else on every play.

[CappinHard]

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I'm saying you are making a definite statement by calling "bull". Whether it was intentional or not is 50/50. Also, as a team I would never accuse SDSU of trying to injure. Individual players, who knows. Like I said, I'm not making the accusation either...just no knowing the intent.

Here's the play. https://youtu.be/Vh4Mw_1jBfM?t=15m18s

Klieman doesn't come out and say it, but it sounds like he believes it was intentional. He says "I hate to see it happen and the way it happened, that's just not good for football". I just don't see it. Even if that was an NDSU player trying to tackle an SDSU player, I wouldn't call it dirty, he felt that Bruce was trying to get away and hadn't gone down yet, so he did anything he could to make sure that Bruce went down.

[goon]

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If this is true, that's a great read by TC to realize how the defender was playing Jake and to not throw the fade. Also an incredible adjustment by Jake as he would have been preparing to go up and get the ball. My guess is that it's something they've practiced and talked about, where depending on how the defense is playing it's an option to throw the stop route instead of the fade.

The timing on it sure looked like the play worked perfectly. it was a thing of beauty.

[TransAmBison]

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What to you mean a definite statement? I was just reporting on some of the stuff I read. Yes its definitely evidence of complaints on Bisonville and AGS that SDSU plays dirty and makes intentional injuries. No quarrel with you TAB, I am just reporting what I read. I trying to find this play on video to get a better look at it. Socalledfan gives us the benefit of the doubt. I would not support a team that intentionally injurers the opponents.

I'm saying you are making a definite statement by calling "bull". Whether it was intentional or not is 50/50. Also, as a team I would never accuse SDSU of trying to injure. Individual players, who knows. Like I said, I'm not making the accusation either...just no knowing the intent.

Here's the play. https://youtu.be/Vh4Mw_1jBfM?t=15m18s

[Nidaros]

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I have refrained from talking about it there...but I question anybody who makes a definite statement...including yours. We as fans just can't know. It could easily be he was just doing the only thing he thought he could do to get Bruce down...or just as easily he took an opportunity to hurt Bruce. We can't know.

NDSU also had a player destroy your punt returner...this could easily be questioned by Jackrabbit faithful and I would not be able to defend it. The kid had some distractions which I think may have influenced the stupid play, but I don't know.

What to you mean a definite statement? I was just reporting on some of the stuff I read. Yes its definitely evidence of complaints on Bisonville and AGS that SDSU plays dirty and makes intentional injuries. No quarrel with you TAB, I am just reporting what I read. I trying to find this play on video to get a better look at it. Socalledfan gives us the benefit of the doubt. I would not support a team that intentionally injurers the opponents.

[TransAmBison]

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AGS posters and of course bisonville are bitching about the injury to Bison No 8. Bruce Anderson. They are claiming and intentional harm. Bull!!!!!

I have refrained from talking about it there...but I question anybody who makes a definite statement...including yours. We as fans just can't know. It could easily be he was just doing the only thing he thought he could do to get Bruce down...or just as easily he took an opportunity to hurt Bruce. We can't know.

NDSU also had a player destroy your punt returner...this could easily be questioned by Jackrabbit faithful and I would not be able to defend it. The kid had some distractions which I think may have influenced the stupid play, but I don't know.