Cal Poly

[jackmd]

Re: Cal Poly

Just playing devils advocate here...underage drinking/breaking the law is OK if you do it where nobody in authority can see you do it, even if it is in property that said authority owns and operates and is in direct conflict with their institutional policies (no alcohol whatsoever allowed on property) and state/national law. Underage drinking/breaking the law is NOT OK if you do it in a public place where alcohol is allowed to those over the legal drinking age. OK.

I have no idea how this is relevant to the discussion. SDSU is going to enforce the state and federal laws that define the legal drinking age as 21. They are absolutely obligated to do so. That doesn't mean that every kid under 21 drinking on campus the day of the game is going to get caught. That does mean if you are caught you get a ticket and you get escorted away. It's really not that difficult to understand.

I also understand that the suggestion is that SDSU should "turn a blind eye" towards the illegal behavior. No one on this forum has any idea what the enforcers of the rules are discussing behind closed doors nor should we.

Bottom line, there's a huge group of people that want a safe place to tailgate. Last year "the Backyard", at least a large portion of it, wasn't safe. SDSU is trying to find a way to accommodate all. I commend them for that. That accommodation will not include allowing a blatant violation of state and federal law. To suggest that aren't permitting some questionable behavior already is a little naïve.

Perhaps they should set up sobriety check points immediately outside of every exit from the parking lots? They certainly could do that.

[Carolina010]

Re: Cal Poly

Wrong. See this link even if you are same body weight as yours truly 240 plus, 10 drinks in that 9 hour range would give you a .16% reading double the legal limit.

https://www.google.com/search?q=alco...VWszeydO1iM%3A

No it would not. That isn't taking in to account anything you have eaten during that time or the fact that you can digest on drink an hour. So if you have 10 drinks in 9 hours your body digest 9 of those. So you have 1 drink in your system for a .02% reading 1/4 the legal limit. See this link taking into account time http://www.intox.com/DrinkWheelResul...nited%20States

[Nidaros]

Re: Cal Poly

I have no idea how this is relevant to the discussion. SDSU is going to enforce the state and federal laws that define the legal drinking age as 21. They are absolutely obligated to do so. That doesn't mean that every kid under 21 drinking on campus the day of the game is going to get caught. That does mean if you are caught you get a ticket and you get escorted away. It's really not that difficult to understand.

I also understand that the suggestion is that SDSU should "turn a blind eye" towards the illegal behavior. No one on this forum has any idea what the enforcers of the rules are discussing behind closed doors nor should we.

Bottom line, there's a huge group of people that want a safe place to tailgate. Last year "the Backyard", at least a large portion of it, wasn't safe. SDSU is trying to find a way to accommodate all. I commend them for that. That accommodation will not include allowing a blatant violation of state and federal law. To suggest that aren't permitting some questionable behavior already is a little naïve.

Perhaps they should set up sobriety check points immediately outside of every exit from the parking lots? They certainly could do that.

Doc makes a great deal of sense here. I just dont see how we build a fan base doing something illegal. Yes the students are the future and the reason for having a football team. Some will be very loyal in the future, and others are not going to get excited about mailing in a donation to the SDSU foundation. Considering the cost of attending and the accumulated debt following graduation, we are going to have a rough time getting their needed support. Giving them excess to alcohol will not cut the mustard.

[Nidaros]

Re: Cal Poly

No it would not. That isn't taking in to account anything you have eaten during that time or the fact that you can digest on drink an hour. So if you have 10 drinks in 9 hours your body digest 9 of those. So you have 1 drink in your system for a .02% reading 1/4 the legal limit.

Possibly with food and spacing your notion might work. I have my doubts, since the body is very slow in burning alcohol consumed.

[CappinHard]

Re: Cal Poly

Perhaps they should set up sobriety check points immediately outside of every exit from the parking lots? They certainly could do that.

If they are going to clamp down on underage drinking, they should set up check points. The problem is you and many others are all for the strict enforcement of underage drinking, but that doesn't affect you at all. If SDSU were to strictly enforce every single law possible, tailgating wouldn't be fun at all and probably wouldn't exist. So where does it stop? If it's up to you, it stops at enforcing underage drinking, but why? Why enforce that law if we aren't going to enforce others? Because adults are "more responsible" and "can handle it better"? As long as they aren't causing a nuisance, I would contend that adult drinkers are more dangerous because students are likely to walk back to their dorms or houses and eventually take a bus downtown, where as the adult drinkers get in their cars and drive home. (Easy Nidaros, I'm not suggesting check points, I'm just making a point)

[Nidaros]

Re: Cal Poly

If they are going to clamp down on underage drinking, they should set up check points. The problem is you and many others are all for the strict enforcement of underage drinking, but that doesn't affect you at all. If SDSU were to strictly enforce every single law possible, tailgating wouldn't be fun at all and probably wouldn't exist. So where does it stop? If it's up to you, it stops at enforcing underage drinking, but why? Why enforce that law if we aren't going to enforce others? Because adults are "more responsible" and "can handle it better"? As long as they aren't causing a nuisance, I would contend that adult drinkers are more dangerous because students are likely to walk back to their dorms or houses and eventually take a bus downtown, where as the adult drinkers get in their cars and drive home. (Easy Nidaros, I'm not suggesting check points, I'm just making a point)

As long as I get home safely, that is all I really care about. Plus I would hate to see someone else or their family injured for whatever reason. I will not comment any further. And your point was??? Alcohol affects everyone who consumes it. It does not discriminate based on man made laws of age 21. So adults are not any better than the students when they are impaired.

[jackmd]

Re: Cal Poly

If they are going to clamp down on underage drinking, they should set up check points. The problem is you and many others are all for the strict enforcement of underage drinking, but that doesn't affect you at all. If SDSU were to strictly enforce every single law possible, tailgating wouldn't be fun at all and probably wouldn't exist. So where does it stop? If it's up to you, it stops at enforcing underage drinking, but why? Why enforce that law if we aren't going to enforce others? Because adults are "more responsible" and "can handle it better"? As long as they aren't causing a nuisance, I would contend that adult drinkers are more dangerous because students are likely to walk back to their dorms or houses and eventually take a bus downtown, where as the adult drinkers get in their cars and drive home. (Easy Nidaros, I'm not suggesting check points, I'm just making a point)

Exactly. Difference is I'm happy to leave it up to the administration at SDSU and let them figure out how they want to handle it. I hope they don't end tailgating for me but if they do I can certainly live without it. Seems to me you might be suggesting that they permit illegal and dangerous behavior at the expense of those following the law and respecting others so that those behaving irresponsibly may be allowed to continue to do so. I can't get behind that. Not now, not ever.


Check points at every exit would be fine with me. The fewer drunk drivers there are on the road the better.

[filbert]

Re: Cal Poly

Boy, that Cal Poly game sure did suck, huh?

[MontanaRabbit]

Re: Cal Poly

So let me get this straight. Our FB team loses and we start to argue about growing the fan base by more or less allowing underage drinking?

I've got a better idea.....win games. And more importantly win games with all our chips in the middle. That'll grow the fan base faster than anything.

[Nidaros]

Re: Cal Poly

So let me get this straight. Our FB team loses and we start to argue about growing the fan base by more or less allowing underage drinking?

I've got a better idea.....win games. And more importantly win games with all our chips in the middle. That'll grow the fan base faster than anything.

Amen that will do it.

[JACKGUYII]

Re: Cal Poly

So let me get this straight. Our FB team loses and we start to argue about growing the fan base by more or less allowing underage drinking?

I've got a better idea.....win games. And more importantly win games with all our chips in the middle. That'll grow the fan base faster than anything.

It's seems many of the under age drinkers can't go more than a 1/2 of football before they return to the dorms for more drinking or whatever...

[BTownJack]

Re: Cal Poly

Cal Poly has 1st and 10 - runs a dive straight up the middle and gains 8 yards. How many f-ing times did that happen last Saturday evening? Enough to drive me to drink !!!!

[slosho]

Re: Cal Poly

It looked to me like they "washed down" the interior D-line and kicked out the D-end (hopefully that makes sense) on most of these so I think they found a scheme that (likely unbeknownst to them immorally) leveraged our lack of depth.

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[Nidaros]

Re: Cal Poly

We won't have to worry about triple offense this week end,or any other until end of season. The way Cal Poly executed, they will win a bunch of games. I will be watching them the rest of the season.

[filbert]

Re: Cal Poly

Cal Poly has 1st and 10 - runs a dive straight up the middle and gains 8 yards. How many f-ing times did that happen last Saturday evening? Enough to drive me to drink !!!!

CP were obviously the designated drivers last Saturday.