2 more coaches gone!

[Nidaros]

Re: 2 more coaches gone!

Agreed, it would be nice to have an outgoing quote from each guy but perhaps that's against policy. It can be construed many ways, that's the difficulty of a thread wild with rumors and speculation(no matter how well somebody knows someone's 3rd cousins girlfriends uncle in Tallahassee). Kinda shoots a hole in the law school theory unless that is part of the business plan. Maybe the HS coaching aspirations are there to throw us off track. Unfortunately like a tootsie pop and the quantity of licks to hit the center, "the world may never know"..........Unless the JR high coaches 4th grade sons Sunday school teacher posts something on Facebook.

I think your suggestion about giving statements is absolutely stupid. I am sorry but it makes no sense. These guys got lives to live just like you and I and they are not obligated to say Jack8888 when they leave. As far as Flynn, I find KU Law Jack a relying source since he is an attorney and no doubt has gotten to know Flynn, and possibly Flynn came to him for advice about law school. I don't know and don't care to know. Law school just might be part of his business plan. Who knows? John Flynn has moved on.

[Jackedforlife]

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According to this article Christiansen left to pursue other opportunities. Later in the article it said he expressed interest in coaching at the HS level.

Makes me question the validity of the thread about his departure.

Agreed, it would be nice to have an outgoing quote from each guy but perhaps that's against policy. It can be construed many ways, that's the difficulty of a thread wild with rumors and speculation(no matter how well somebody knows someone's 3rd cousins girlfriends uncle in Tallahassee). Kinda shoots a hole in the law school theory unless that is part of the business plan. Maybe the HS coaching aspirations are there to throw us off track. Unfortunately like a tootsie pop and the quantity of licks to get to the center, "the world may never know"..........Unless the JR high coaches 4th grade sons Sunday school teacher posts something on Facebook.

[MontanaRabbit]

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Zim's article.

http://www.argusleader.com/story/spo...taff/79010668/

According to this article Christiansen left to pursue other opportunities. Later in the article it said he expressed interest in coaching at the HS level.

Makes me question the validity of the thread about his departure.

[UWMandSDSU]

Re: 2 more coaches gone!

Zim's article.

http://www.argusleader.com/story/spo...taff/79010668/

[Nidaros]

Re: 2 more coaches gone!

Seems that indecency is the way of the world, now. Just check the comments of most any topic. Anonymity breeds boldness. The meanness on this board is nothing compared to most topics. Even walking around in Rochester, Mn.with my SDSU cap or shirt, occasionally, people will ask me if I went to San Diego State. Guess that shows the level of concern for SDSU vs, XXXX outside of that area. Maybe SDSU is peaked out for admissions, but they have no advertising in this area. We are swamped with NDSU ads on tv as well as billboards. Last time I was at Scheels, they didn't even have SDSU t-shirts. They had a whole kiosk for NDSU(300 miles) gear. UND even, UNI(110 miles), etc. In past they had one stack of plain SDSU t's. Talk about thread drift, two topics not related to subject.

The first two sentences of your post have earned some positive rep pts, and your points about advertising are well taken. NDSU is starting to spend money with Mediacom, more thread drift, but I would not be surprised to loose some more assistants, and I said it before and will say again. An assistant job in football at SDSU is not a career but an entry level job.

[RochJack69]

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Thanks for the explanation. I am not up enough on posters here know these things...just getting tired of the lack of decency on messageboards. I understand smack talk, giving grief, etc...but it just seems that the trend has been mean-spirited attacks (not singling out here...messageboards in general). Bisonville is as bad as any now...

Seems that indecency is the way of the world, now. Just check the comments of most any topic. Anonymity breeds boldness. The meanness on this board is nothing compared to most topics. Even walking around in Rochester, Mn.with my SDSU cap or shirt, occasionally, people will ask me if I went to San Diego State. Guess that shows the level of concern for SDSU vs, XXXX outside of that area. Maybe SDSU is peaked out for admissions, but they have no advertising in this area. We are swamped with NDSU ads on tv as well as billboards. Last time I was at Scheels, they didn't even have SDSU t-shirts. They had a whole kiosk for NDSU(300 miles) gear. UND even, UNI(110 miles), etc. In past they had one stack of plain SDSU t's. Talk about thread drift, two topics not related to subject.

[jumpinjackrabbit]

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As my dad would say, "Let's end this Malarkey and move on"!!! Go Big, Go Blue, Go Jacks!!!!

[MontanaRabbit]

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I believe that in BULLDOG's case, it was a cumulative kind of thing that was pushed over the edge by this latest series of posts about the coaching staff situation. If you go back and read his prior posts, it seems he usually comes here to complain that the Jacks had missed or passed over NW Iowa players that he thought should be in Brookings. It's valuable to get local input, but especially in recruiting, hindsight is always 20/20. It's OK to think that we missed on a player but to go back over and over and over it again is what started to wear thin with many people.

I think you nailed it on the head. I personally grew wary over the repeated post about the NW Iowa kids. Not one program ever bats .1000 on recruits. Not one. So complaining that we should have recruited this kid or that kid is really really dumb. For all we know the coaches had recruits graded higher that already had committed so that position was full. But posting over and over and over about it....what's the point?

For me at least it's not the information that Bulldog is posting as much as the delivery. Likes to just put his toe in the water instead of jumping in. This thread is a perfect example. The first post can easily be construed as a sky is falling type post and later he admits to having an axe to grind but yet won't talk about it. Screams of a troll.

[jack power]

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Thanks for the explanation. I am not up enough on posters here know these things...just getting tired of the lack of decency on messageboards. I understand smack talk, giving grief, etc...but it just seems that the trend has been mean-spirited attacks (not singling out here...messageboards in general). Bisonville is as bad as any now...

Nobody cares what you think,asshat.

[TransAmBison]

Re: 2 more coaches gone!

I believe that in BULLDOG's case, it was a cumulative kind of thing that was pushed over the edge by this latest series of posts about the coaching staff situation. If you go back and read his prior posts, it seems he usually comes here to complain that the Jacks had missed or passed over NW Iowa players that he thought should be in Brookings. It's valuable to get local input, but especially in recruiting, hindsight is always 20/20. It's OK to think that we missed on a player but to go back over and over and over it again is what started to wear thin with many people.

Thanks for the explanation. I am not up enough on posters here know these things...just getting tired of the lack of decency on messageboards. I understand smack talk, giving grief, etc...but it just seems that the trend has been mean-spirited attacks (not singling out here...messageboards in general). Bisonville is as bad as any now...

[bigticket1]

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I went back and reread what he wrote. I have to say it is a tough one...he definitely made it look like a bad situation...and maybe it is with it being the time to finish off recruiting. I don't know. I just saw a group of people with pitchforks and clubs when his news didn't look like it would materialize. Then when it did, rather than put the weapons down they still attacked. Can't say it would be any different on Bisonville...seems people are losing manners all over the place.

I believe that in BULLDOG's case, it was a cumulative kind of thing that was pushed over the edge by this latest series of posts about the coaching staff situation. If you go back and read his prior posts, it seems he usually comes here to complain that the Jacks had missed or passed over NW Iowa players that he thought should be in Brookings. It's valuable to get local input, but especially in recruiting, hindsight is always 20/20. It's OK to think that we missed on a player but to go back over and over and over it again is what started to wear thin with many people.

[Nidaros]

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That's good stuff right there.

Hell there are many, many, good people in Fargo, including TAB, and the surrounding area, they just don't hide behind a phony handle and insult people. Another one who shares good information is Sam's Rams, he has not be here for a while, but maybe on signing day he will show up.

[TransAmBison]

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I have heard fifty or more applications for some of the openings, and I don't think it going to be different this time around. Only a moron would not ask about opening salary, so these guys know they are headed for a lean budget to live on. Most of them have a goal in mind and this coaching job is a stepping stone, and that about all they can expect.

Do you know if the salary is comparable to similar positions at peer/same conference institutions?

[Nidaros]

Re: 2 more coaches gone!

Reading some of the comments I can understand the outrage of giving a little information and then letting everyone's imagineation run wild, but I do think there are some comments that are clearly a little overboard.

Bulldog thanks for the info and keep it coming, exspecially from your neck of the woods. I also agree losing two young assistants a few weeks from signing day could change things or make a difference on the kids that haven't made a decision yet.

I do do like the comments of change can be good. My personal opinion is the loss if Flynn to law school isn't too significant, I think the o line play lacked last yr and kinda lost there nastyness of we are going dominate this line and push you back 3 yards witch opened up huge holes. The NDSU and UNI games the better players where there D lines and that is something we need to win to move the ball.

Losing Davis in my opinion is going to make a difference and be the hardest to replace. He has had his hands on a lot off great WR even the ones that didn't have supior size and speed he turned into great route runners.

I trust that stig and Eric won't have to much trouble finding replacements since our program is on the rise.

I have heard fifty or more applications for some of the openings, and I don't think it going to be different this time around. Only a moron would not ask about opening salary, so these guys know they are headed for a lean budget to live on. Most of them have a goal in mind and this coaching job is a stepping stone, and that about all they can expect.

[rabbits64]

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I went back and reread what he wrote. I have to say it is a tough one...he definitely made it look like a bad situation...and maybe it is with it being the time to finish off recruiting. I don't know. I just saw a group of people with pitchforks and clubs when his news didn't look like it would materialize. Then when it did, rather than put the weapons down they still attacked. Can't say it would be any different on Bisonville...seems people are losing manners all over the place.

IMO the attacks came from people's opinions of Bulldog, not necessarily specific to the post. The post obviously annoyed people, but if it was another person, might not have brought such vitriol. Admittedly he has struck a few nerves with me in the past too.