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  • OldHare
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    Re: 2 more coaches gone!

    Originally posted by mnjackrbt View Post
    HS and college is an entirely different ballgame. I know nothing about this guy from Spirit Lake. Can he handle 80-100 hour work weeks? Does he have a family? Can he watch game film from 6am - 2pm, practice from 2-5 pm, have a quick meal with the family, review practice from film 6-7pm, call recruits from 7-9pm, prep for the next day from 9-10 pm? Then go home to the family just to restart it again? Can he travel for a week or two at a time in the offseason to recruit? And that doesn't even tap into does he know the X's and O's and the techniques of his position group?

    It takes a special kind of man and a more than understanding family to get into the college coaching ranks. It's not for most people.
    You make it sound like he is on an 8-4 job in the high school. If he is a full time teacher, it may surprise you how many hours he has on the plate. You might have stopped where you mentioned that you knew nothing about the guy. I will start watching the parking lots at 7 in the morning to check on the traffic near the coaches offices.

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  • mnjackrbt
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    Re: 2 more coaches gone!

    Originally posted by BULLDOG View Post
    I know I'll get blasted for this, but I think they should seek Josh Bolluyt the head coach at Spirit Lake. The guy can flat out coach. Great defensive mind and ties throughout the state of Iowa. He built that program into a state power and it was a doormat before he arrived. I've listened to him speak at clinics and he has college defensive coordinator written all over him. A college position coach would be a great step for him to take. I'm not sure he's take the pay cut, but I know I'd find out. I know NDSU has a couple former Iowans on their staff and with UNI in a downward spiral it's a great time to come into Iowa. NDSU is beating down the doors. No sign in our school of SDSU, but NDSU was here at the beginning of the week. Spirit Lake, Rock Valley, Heelen, West Lyon, Central Lyon, and Sioux Center have talented Div. 1 athletes that come from well coached hs programs.
    HS and college is an entirely different ballgame. I know nothing about this guy from Spirit Lake. Can he handle 80-100 hour work weeks? Does he have a family? Can he watch game film from 6am - 2pm, practice from 2-5 pm, have a quick meal with the family, review practice from film 6-7pm, call recruits from 7-9pm, prep for the next day from 9-10 pm? Then go home to the family just to restart it again? Can he travel for a week or two at a time in the offseason to recruit? And that doesn't even tap into does he know the X's and O's and the techniques of his position group?

    It takes a special kind of man and a more than understanding family to get into the college coaching ranks. It's not for most people.

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  • Nidaros
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    Re: 2 more coaches gone!

    Originally posted by UWMandSDSU View Post
    I think a similar HS coach that would be a great hire is Hermanson from Sioux Falls (currently coaches at USF and SF Storm & former SDSU football player). I have no idea if he would even be interested. Like NW Iowa, Sioux Falls athletes get recruited by NDSU very hard. NDSU coaches were visitors to a SF school this past week.
    Hermansen is close to the same age as Stig which is 58 or 59 years old, and according to the media guide he last lettered in 1980. Also this would be a huge pay cut and probably the same could be said about the Bolluyt from Spirit Lake who no doubt has gotten a raise every year he has been at Spirit Lake. Who knows both could be among the 350 applications that were received.

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  • UWMandSDSU
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    Re: 2 more coaches gone!

    Originally posted by BULLDOG View Post
    I know I'll get blasted for this, but I think they should seek Josh Bolluyt the head coach at Spirit Lake. The guy can flat out coach. Great defensive mind and ties throughout the state of Iowa. He built that program into a state power and it was a doormat before he arrived. I've listened to him speak at clinics and he has college defensive coordinator written all over him. A college position coach would be a great step for him to take. I'm not sure he's take the pay cut, but I know I'd find out. I know NDSU has a couple former Iowans on their staff and with UNI in a downward spiral it's a great time to come into Iowa. NDSU is beating down the doors. No sign in our school of SDSU, but NDSU was here at the beginning of the week. Spirit Lake, Rock Valley, Heelen, West Lyon, Central Lyon, and Sioux Center have talented Div. 1 athletes that come from well coached hs programs.
    I think a similar HS coach that would be a great hire is Hermanson from Sioux Falls (currently coaches at USF and SF Storm & former SDSU football player). I have no idea if he would even be interested. Like NW Iowa, Sioux Falls athletes get recruited by NDSU very hard. NDSU coaches were visitors to a SF school this past week.

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  • BULLDOG
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    Re: 2 more coaches gone!

    Originally posted by OldHare View Post
    Zimmer's article in today's Argus indicated that 350 applicants are interested in the safeties position. They have not formally advertised for the other 2 positions. It seems to be a time for job changes in the coaching industry.
    I know I'll get blasted for this, but I think they should seek Josh Bolluyt the head coach at Spirit Lake. The guy can flat out coach. Great defensive mind and ties throughout the state of Iowa. He built that program into a state power and it was a doormat before he arrived. I've listened to him speak at clinics and he has college defensive coordinator written all over him. A college position coach would be a great step for him to take. I'm not sure he's take the pay cut, but I know I'd find out. I know NDSU has a couple former Iowans on their staff and with UNI in a downward spiral it's a great time to come into Iowa. NDSU is beating down the doors. No sign in our school of SDSU, but NDSU was here at the beginning of the week. Spirit Lake, Rock Valley, Heelen, West Lyon, Central Lyon, and Sioux Center have talented Div. 1 athletes that come from well coached hs programs.

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  • OldHare
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    Re: 2 more coaches gone!

    Zimmer's article in today's Argus indicated that 350 applicants are interested in the safeties position. They have not formally advertised for the other 2 positions. It seems to be a time for job changes in the coaching industry.

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  • goon
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    Re: 2 more coaches gone!

    Originally posted by TransAmBison View Post
    Not positive...but I think it was a little less than Bohl...but I don't know...
    Because neilson at usd is making more then glenn was. I would guess there might be a slight chance with these positions opened there is a little increase in pay with it.

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  • TransAmBison
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    Re: 2 more coaches gone!

    Originally posted by goon View Post
    Similar to usd. They hired 3 what appear to be solid hires and limited funds and resources. A lot of times when a coach leaves the new hire gets a better salary. Just curious when bohl left did the new coach make more, less or the same as bohl? Also just curious on that.
    Not positive...but I think it was a little less than Bohl...but I don't know...

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  • goon
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    Re: 2 more coaches gone!

    Originally posted by TransAmBison View Post
    Can you list the good things SDSU has to offer and why you would get a pretty good list of candidates? Not looking to smack or starting an argument...just curious on your thoughts...
    Similar to usd. They hired 3 what appear to be solid hires and limited funds and resources. A lot of times when a coach leaves the new hire gets a better salary. Just curious when bohl left did the new coach make more, less or the same as bohl? Also just curious on that.

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  • Jackedforlife
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    Re: 2 more coaches gone!

    Originally posted by jackrabbit1979 View Post
    I can name 10 without really blinking an eye. I would assume a seasoned coach could identify even more.

    1. Best conference in FCS
    2. Best FB facilities in conference (maybe FCS)
    3. Brand new stadium
    4. Supportive fan base with reasonable expectations.
    5. High quality administration with track record for loyalty and support
    6. Carnegie level, land grant, flagship university with wide variety of desirable academic programs
    7. Quality recruitment bases (Omaha/NE, Iowa, MN, SD) in all directions
    8. University commitment to the student-athlete concept above win at all costs
    9. Unprecedented academic success within the conference.
    10. Consistent winning in program

    ^ -this too, I believe he stated it more eloquently than I did.

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  • Jackedforlife
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    Re: 2 more coaches gone!

    Originally posted by TransAmBison View Post
    You first. Seriously, though...I do not want to come here and make a list running down your program...not my intent at all. I was just curious about what you see as the strengths of your program that would entice candidates.
    The smarta$$ in me wants to say because it's in SD not ND but that really doesn't answer the query.


    While like any other FCS program we cannot boast of 5 straight(only one can, honest congrats btw)but we have built a decent winning tradition especially compared to D2 days. Our facilities are finally amongst the best in the FCS. Steigelmeier has garnered respect as a coach, mentor and man of integrity. There is a consistency in staff and the student athletes perform well on the field, in the classroom and in the community. Brookings has many things to offer for a community of its size.

    None of this is to be confused that NDSU isn't any of this, your question though is the strengths our program has to offer.

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  • jackrabbit1979
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    Re: 2 more coaches gone!

    Originally posted by TransAmBison View Post
    Can you list the good things SDSU has to offer and why you would get a pretty good list of candidates? Not looking to smack or starting an argument...just curious on your thoughts...
    I can name 10 without really blinking an eye. I would assume a seasoned coach could identify even more.

    1. Best conference in FCS
    2. Best FB facilities in conference (maybe FCS)
    3. Brand new stadium
    4. Supportive fan base with reasonable expectations.
    5. High quality administration with track record for loyalty and support
    6. Carnegie level, land grant, flagship university with wide variety of desirable academic programs
    7. Quality recruitment bases (Omaha/NE, Iowa, MN, SD) in all directions
    8. University commitment to the student-athlete concept above win at all costs
    9. Unprecedented academic success within the conference.
    10. Consistent winning in program

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  • TransAmBison
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    Re: 2 more coaches gone!

    Originally posted by MontanaRabbit View Post
    Tell us why SDSU wouldn't be a good gig. Just curious on your thoughts.
    You first. Seriously, though...I do not want to come here and make a list running down your program...not my intent at all. I was just curious about what you see as the strengths of your program that would entice candidates.

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  • MontanaRabbit
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    Re: 2 more coaches gone!

    Originally posted by Nidaros View Post
    I sorry you did say other people have said that its a bad deal, but I think we are stuck with single year contracts for a long time. The political climate is pretty much status quo. Even if somehow the other party got control of the legislature, they would not be much different than the current party. That's what I learned in pol science class at SDSU.
    I may have misunderstood your post. I thought it read like I said that it was a show-stopper.

    I agree we are pry stuck with it for the foreseeable future.

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  • Nidaros
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    Re: 2 more coaches gone!

    Originally posted by MontanaRabbit View Post
    No...no I didn't. Some people here think it's a bad deal....I don't buy into that. We don't have a history of firing coaches. Actually it seems to be the opposite...our administration gives a pretty long leash.
    I sorry you did say other people have said that its a bad deal, but I think we are stuck with single year contracts for a long time. The political climate is pretty much status quo. Even if somehow the other party got control of the legislature, they would not be much different than the current party. That's what I learned in pol science class at SDSU years ago and I don't think it has changed. I stated in my other post that multi year contracts are risky with out having a daddy war bucks on hand. I stand by that statement. Yes the admin seems to extend a leash a mile or two.

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