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  • sfjacksfan99
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    Re: Lujan or Christion?

    Originally posted by jacksfan29 View Post
    Really? If we beat UNI this weekend we are 6-1. If we beat who we are supposed to beat (MSU, USD) and split with ISUr and WIU we will be 9-2 and we will get a top 8 seed. If we win out, we will be a 3 seed at the lowest, possibly a 2 seed. There are less than 10 teams in the country right now who have a shot at the national championship. We are one of the 10. This is the most wide open I have seen FCS since we moved up. The CAA, down. The Big Sky, down. Southland, down.

    This^^^! People who don't think we are worthy of the #6 ranking in the country are wrong, wrong, wrong. Ok, so we got drubbed by NDSU. They got beat by a bad team...in Fargo. So are they crap and have no shot at the NC? That's what I thought. We are just as good as they are. Maybe not in some of our players minds, but on the field we are.

    We flat out whipped a previous top 10 team at their house last week (a game we were probably expected to lose in all honesty). YSU barely lost at home to the #4 team in the country and NC runner up last year the week before. We played pretty below average and still handled ISU-b, who proved last week they are still no slouches by rolling up a bunch of points against SIU. Now give credit to the defense for the last two weeks, since we just want to talk about a QB controversy, a shaky OLine and a struggling punter. The D was lock down solid the last two weeks against teams that were scoring a bunch of points. If the D wants to play like this from here on out, Finnes might as well be the QB and we might just win out. This team is legit, believe it.

    Now...the conversation about the QB. This whole Redbird deal November 7 is looming already. Yeah, yeah, 1-0. But, it is eerily similar to the 2009 ordeal against SIU (which happened to be the same weekend, Nov. 10, 2009 if I recall). 38-7 or something was the score that day and they rolled our a$$es right out of the gate. Taryn is not TOB. He is the future for 3-1/2 years. Pick a QB (TC) and let's roll. Stig sits there and talks about goals at the beginning of the season and he always mentions a Top 8 seed (since it went to 8). Listen to yourself coach. If you want a seed, alternating QBs is not the way to go. It breaks the flow of the game. Look at the ISU-b game and bringing in Taryn and Dalt back and forth in the second half. There was no flow to that half. It was brutal.

    Happy Hobo Week!

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  • Jacked4Days
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    Re: Lujan or Christion?

    Originally posted by WestSideRabbit View Post
    Matt Zimmer ‏@argusmattz 2m2 minutes ago
    Jacks coach John Stiegelmeier: "Once (Zach) Lujan is healthy we'll do something we haven't done here and play two quarterbacks."

    Tweet from Zimmer just now.
    I'm curious to see what the plan is to split playing time. This could be done a number of ways. I personally would rather start the quarterback that gives the offense the best matchup. If we want to pass and exploit a poor secondary, use Lujan. I firmly believe that today on October 20th, 2015 that Lujan is a better passer than TC. If we want to exploit a weakness in defending athletic quarterbacks and read option, obviously use TC. Then the other quarterback can get time in each of the games situationally.

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  • CappinHard
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    Re: Lujan or Christion?

    Originally posted by WestSideRabbit View Post
    Matt Zimmer ‏@argusmattz 2m2 minutes ago
    Jacks coach John Stiegelmeier: "Once (Zach) Lujan is healthy we'll do something we haven't done here and play two quarterbacks."

    Tweet from Zimmer just now.
    Well, this is better than what Stig said on his radio show. I am encouraged by this, knowing that they aren't going to just bench TC. It could play out well, but it is really tough to manage 2 QB situations. More times than not, they don't end up working out. Sometimes, they end up working great though, and that's what I'll hope for.

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  • UWMandSDSU
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    Re: Lujan or Christion?

    Originally posted by bigticket1 View Post
    Stig said this on his radio show last night.
    Thanks just read back to your post from yesterday.

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  • bigticket1
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    Re: Lujan or Christion?

    Originally posted by UWMandSDSU View Post
    Did miss something or forget something? Jake isn't 100%?
    Stig said this on his radio show last night.

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  • MontanaRabbit
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    Re: Lujan or Christion?

    I sure hope the coaches know as much as all the experts on this thread.

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  • UWMandSDSU
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    Re: Lujan or Christion?

    Originally posted by Jackedforlife View Post
    No one has filled that void plus now we know Jake isn't 100%.
    Did miss something or forget something? Jake isn't 100%?

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  • WestSideRabbit
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    Re: Lujan or Christion?

    Matt Zimmer ‏@argusmattz 2m2 minutes ago
    Jacks coach John Stiegelmeier: "Once (Zach) Lujan is healthy we'll do something we haven't done here and play two quarterbacks."

    Tweet from Zimmer just now.

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  • Jackedforlife
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    Re: Lujan or Christion?

    Originally posted by Hareofthedog View Post
    TC will not redshirt. End of story
    Not even question, I feel this will play out the way most of us feel it should. I really like Lujan but regardless of his highest QB rating there are a few things to remember. Last year he had a veteran WR that helped mentor and draw coverage from our rookie sensation. No one has filled that void plus now we know Jake isn't 100%. He had an all world RB that defenses keyed on first.

    What about his magic this year you say? He played excellently against a horrible FBS team and some other FCS schools that would be cellar dwellers in the MVFC. He hung tough in a game where he was battered every play. Honestly Peyton manning couldn't have saved us that game. So props to Zach there. All in all teams are keying on Jake and weren't/aren't prepared to take on TC. Each week TC learns and improves, other WR's improve and new wrinkles are added. Growing pains? Yes we've seen them but some are play calls that shouldn't have been made. If the D continues their aggressive and dominant style we can afford a few growing pains from TC.

    Plain and simple, TC hasn't even scratched the surface of his potential and he's arguably the best QB on the team. He will not redshirt.

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  • Hareofthedog
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    Re: Lujan or Christion?

    TC will not redshirt. End of story

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  • OldHare
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    Re: Lujan or Christion?

    Originally posted by bigticket1 View Post
    Debate/speculate all you want about who should be playing QB,but do we really need to go down this path ? All it takes is one person to read this and go out and have a few beers with his buddies and say "Yeah,I heard that if TC doesn't start,he's gonna leave" and you have rumors floating out there that wouldn't be good for anyone involved. I have no idea what TC thinks,and I seriously doubt that you do either.
    This might be considered at least a 4 star response.

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  • bigticket1
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    Re: Lujan or Christion?

    Originally posted by Justwin View Post
    I shudder at the thought of that happening but if it did I think this situation would be solved..........wouldn't surprise me for TC to say "see ya later".
    Debate/speculate all you want about who should be playing QB,but do we really need to go down this path ? All it takes is one person to read this and go out and have a few beers with his buddies and say "Yeah,I heard that if TC doesn't start,he's gonna leave" and you have rumors floating out there that wouldn't be good for anyone involved. I have no idea what TC thinks,and I seriously doubt that you do either.

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  • mango4
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    Re: Lujan or Christion?

    Originally posted by Justwin View Post
    Dont think that's possible. He has already had his redshirt. You only get 1. Injury or hardship would be the only way to get a second 1.
    He hasn't had his redshirt. He's a true freshman and his redshirt was burned this year when he played against Indiana State. Doesn't mean he can't use it later as it's the 4 in 5 rule, meaning he has 5 years to play 4.

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  • Nidaros
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    Re: Lujan or Christion?

    Originally posted by westernjack View Post
    Its possible. He hasn't had his redshirt yet. He has 4 years of playing eligibility and 1 year of redshirt eligibility while in college. This year is 1 of his 4 years of playing eligibility.
    Do we have a redshirt rule expert in the house? Its getting complicated for me.

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  • westernjack
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    Re: Lujan or Christion?

    Originally posted by Justwin View Post
    Dont think that's possible. He has already had his redshirt. You only get 1. Injury or hardship would be the only way to get a second 1.
    Its possible. He hasn't had his redshirt yet. He has 4 years of playing eligibility and 1 year of redshirt eligibility while in college. This year is 1 of his 4 years of playing eligibility.

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