New SDSU Football Stadium Site Plan

[MontanaRabbit]

Re: New SDSU Football Stadium Site Plan

Stace Nelson is a complete and total......


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[jackrabit1]

Re: New SDSU Football Stadium Site Plan

I'm not surprised Steve Hickey voted against it... He probably got football confused with Child Porn, like he did with MMA.

[KUlawJack]

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Here's a link to the website of the SD Legislature (Legislative Research Council) where you can read SB 15 etc.
http://legis.sd.gov/Legislative_Sess...5&Session=2014

The seven "No" votes were in the House were:
Steve Hickey (R, Minnehaha)
Isaac Latterell (R, Lincoln)
Stace Nelson (R., Bon Homme, Douglas, Hanson, Hutchinson, McCook, and a small planet with a methane atmosphere orbiting Alpha Centauri B )
Lance Russell (R., Custer, Fall River, Pennington)
Blaine Campbell (R., Pennington)
Don Kopp (R., Pennington)
Betty Olson (R., Butte, Harding, Perkins)

It appears SDSU has strong political ties in Pennington and nearby counties. NOT!

a number of these vote against any higher education spending no matter the cause.

[Nidaros]

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We are where we want to be - on the gov's desk.

[jbjack]

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Hearing rumors of aluminum structure rather than prefab concrete as a cost concession to get the premium seating right. I suppose it makes sense to go all out on the premium seating. It will be paying the bills after all. However, an aluminum stadium seems something less than what we've all been waiting for. And although I'm not an engineer, I would imagine the lifespan of an aluminum structure is something less than pre-fab concrete and seems cheap. I suggested some time ago that perhaps we were over-building this thing (seating capacity-wise). If it is true that this will be an aluminum structure, I would reiterate my suggestion. I would much rather see the entire facility built correctly with a smaller, more realistic seating capacity and room for expansion when lasting success, and more importantly, loyal fan support, is achieved. A 16,500 seat stadium would be more than adequate based on current demand (approximately one 16,000 attendance gate every 2 years) with more than enough room in the open end zones to accommodate 18,000 or 19,000 standing room only crowds if the demand is actually there.

On the other hand, perhaps the students can get on board in doing their part. Drink for Dykhouse Stadium. Save all the cans for recycling into the the stadium structure.

[jackrabbit1979]

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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but did the recent season ticket information that was mailed include quite a price hike as well? The cost of the tickets didn't increase by much (appx $140/ticket vs $115 now, I don't have the brochure in front of me), but the price in donation changed from per order to per seat? Is that right?

If I recall in the past, I could order four tickets in section D for my family, and pay the cost of tickets plus my $100 donation. Under the new plan, I would have to pay the price of tickets plus $200/seat for tickets in approximately the same area. The donation ranges from 300 to 50 based on where you sit, but changing to a per seat locale really bumps the price no matter where you sit. My tickets would go from about $590/year to $1360. Is that right?

I understand the new stadium is going to cost more, but that is a significant hike.

[Nidaros]

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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but did the recent season ticket information that was mailed include quite a price hike as well? The cost of the tickets didn't increase by much (appx $140/ticket vs $115 now, I don't have the brochure in front of me), but the price in donation changed from per order to per seat? Is that right?

If I recall in the past, I could order four tickets in section D for my family, and pay the cost of tickets plus my $100 donation. Under the new plan, I would have to pay the price of tickets plus $200/seat for tickets in approximately the same area. The donation ranges from 300 to 50 based on where you sit, but changing to a per seat locale really bumps the price no matter where you sit. My tickets would go from about $590/year to $1360. Is that right?

I understand the new stadium is going to cost more, but that is a significant hike.

We are going to have to pay for the beauty of a new stadium. You have apparently looked more closely to the details and I suspect your math is not wrong. I too got the infamous envelope in the mail with a letter of intent. I just haven't sat down and looked it over like you have.

[MontanaRabbit]

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Hearing rumors of aluminum structure rather than prefab concrete as a cost concession to get the premium seating right. I suppose it makes sense to go all out on the premium seating. It will be paying the bills after all. However, an aluminum stadium seems something less than what we've all been waiting for. And although I'm not an engineer, I would imagine the lifespan of an aluminum structure is something less than pre-fab concrete and seems cheap. I suggested some time ago that perhaps we were over-building this thing (seating capacity-wise). If it is true that this will be an aluminum structure, I would reiterate my suggestion. I would much rather see the entire facility built correctly with a smaller, more realistic seating capacity and room for expansion when lasting success, and more importantly, loyal fan support, is achieved. A 16,500 seat stadium would be more than adequate based on current demand (approximately one 16,000 attendance gate every 2 years) with more than enough room in the open end zones to accommodate 18,000 or 19,000 standing room only crowds if the demand is actually there.

On the other hand, perhaps the students can get on board in doing their part. Drink for Dykhouse Stadium. Save all the cans for recycling into the the stadium structure.

Not sure where you got your information, but I would be surprised if this was indeed true. It's not out of the realm of possibilities, but it's definitely something that isn't normally considered.

Steel prices have risen in the last year or so, but aluminum is generally more expensive than steel so if they wanted to get away from pre-cast concrete they would likely use steel. On top of being more expensive, equivalent aluminum (compared to steel) sections would need to be bigger because of a lower modulus of elasticity (the main factor in deflection equations). Connections, and field modifications are also more difficult. The only thing I can think of that aluminum has going for it is weight.

I would think pre-cast concrete would be fairly competitive construction technique since Gage Brothers in Sioux Falls is only an hour down the road. Of course they could be to busy to take provide the pre-cast for that stadium too.

All that being said when done properly, aluminum structures can perform adequately.

[UWMandSDSU]

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Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but did the recent season ticket information that was mailed include quite a price hike as well? The cost of the tickets didn't increase by much (appx $140/ticket vs $115 now, I don't have the brochure in front of me), but the price in donation changed from per order to per seat? Is that right?

If I recall in the past, I could order four tickets in section D for my family, and pay the cost of tickets plus my $100 donation. Under the new plan, I would have to pay the price of tickets plus $200/seat for tickets in approximately the same area. The donation ranges from 300 to 50 based on where you sit, but changing to a per seat locale really bumps the price no matter where you sit. My tickets would go from about $590/year to $1360. Is that right?

I understand the new stadium is going to cost more, but that is a significant hike.

Ticket prices for last year was $130/ticket. But everything else you said appears to be correct. A definite bump in donation requirements for better seats (donation: previous years $50 or $100/seat based on location; future range of $50-$300/seat).

[slosho]

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Ticket prices for last year was $130/ticket. But everything else you said appears to be correct. A definite bump in donation requirements for better seats (donation: previous years $50 or $100/seat based on location; future range of $50-$300/seat).

One has to wonder how adversely (if at all) this will affect the Season ticket sales Vs. Walk-up. I know by 2016 this may be priced out of our budget and the walk up option would be a remedy for that.

[West-River_Jack]

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I have been contemplating a couple of club seats. However, given my age and the fact that both of my kids currently live in the sunny south, I don't know if I dare make a five or seven year agreement starting in 2016. I have to seek clarification from SDSU to see if there is a buyout clause in the contract. Perhaps I will have to take my chances that club seats not taken in the five, seven, and ten year contracts will become available on an annual basis, most likely at a higher cost.

[KUlawJack]

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Was considering Club Seats until I got the packet and found out about the other little details that go along with them, i.e., seat lease of 5, 7, or 10 years, which directly impacts price, plus a one-time donation for each seat of $750, plus maintaining Jackrabbit Club donation at present level, meaning that I'd have to maintain my current giving level. Just can't do all of it. My wife thinks we spend way too much on football each year any way with the exorbitant amounts spent on tailgating and traveling to away games that I can't justify it at this time. May be in 5 years.

I hope the AD doesn't have problems selling these seats, along with the loge boxes. I'm guessing a lot of them will be corporate buys rather than individuals. Who knows though.

[goon]

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One has to wonder how adversely (if at all) this will affect the Season ticket sales Vs. Walk-up. I know by 2016 this may be priced out of our budget and the walk up option would be a remedy for that.

We are in the same boat. My parents are retiriing and aren't looking forward to worse seats for the same money or paying that much more a season. Plus my wife and 2 little kids its expensive enough and our best option is to cancel season tickets and we will just buy as many as needed on game by game basis. I just wonder what sort of ticket pricing will be available. If there is a range in prices so every ticket isn't the same price. Like the ends should not cost the same as the middle sections imho in the new stadium.

[goon]

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Hearing rumors of aluminum structure rather than prefab concrete as a cost concession to get the premium seating right. I suppose it makes sense to go all out on the premium seating. It will be paying the bills after all. However, an aluminum stadium seems something less than what we've all been waiting for. And although I'm not an engineer, I would imagine the lifespan of an aluminum structure is something less than pre-fab concrete and seems cheap. I suggested some time ago that perhaps we were over-building this thing (seating capacity-wise). If it is true that this will be an aluminum structure, I would reiterate my suggestion. I would much rather see the entire facility built correctly with a smaller, more realistic seating capacity and room for expansion when lasting success, and more importantly, loyal fan support, is achieved. A 16,500 seat stadium would be more than adequate based on current demand (approximately one 16,000 attendance gate every 2 years) with more than enough room in the open end zones to accommodate 18,000 or 19,000 standing room only crowds if the demand is actually there.

On the other hand, perhaps the students can get on board in doing their part. Drink for Dykhouse Stadium. Save all the cans for recycling into the the stadium structure.

Originally I thought the stadium was going to be concrete with a brick face so its look would be similar and match the dykhouse. I am assuming that's not the case anymore simply based on cost. The brick look would be great I think but ticket prices would have to go up a lot more and they are already going to be expensive.

[Nidaros]

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I think they are trying to get the hard core loyalists like me tied down for long term financial commitments. The Stadium for State group wanted long term commitments and it pissed a bunch of alums off nearly fifty years ago. Most of them are pushing up daisies now, we could end up another group feeling the same way. There really has not been any discussion about single tickets and maybe that might be premature. The more commitments that they can make the less the bond issue in terms of dollars, as I understand it. You might check with Christy Williams and try and get some answers there.

One thing I did learn from the LOI package is the Loge seating is still outside, and maybe a few more comforts but not much.