Summit WBB 2018-19

[jackdaniel]

Re: Summit WBB 2018-19

Imho Denver is the 3rd best team on the women's side. Mens side also maybe.

Agree

[SteelSD]

Re: Summit WBB 2018-19

Imho Denver is the 3rd best team on the women's side. Mens side also maybe.

My tier rankings from early December:

Tier 1- SDSU, USD
Tier 2- Denver
Tier 3- UND, WIU, ORU, UNO
Tier 4- IPFW, NDSU

If anything I would maybe drop UNO down a tier and push the bottom two teams into a 5th Tier. I may have been a year too early on UNO as they look a bit behind the rest in that tier. Still not convinced WIU is as good as they have shown. They need to prove it on the road. Same thing for Denver. Not convinced they can carry that offense on the road. Don’t think they come back from 15 down against USD if that game had been in Vermillion.

[goon]

Re: Summit WBB 2018-19

My tier rankings from early December:

Tier 1- SDSU, USD
Tier 2- Denver
Tier 3- UND, WIU, ORU, UNO
Tier 4- IPFW, NDSU

If anything I would maybe drop UNO down a tier and push the bottom two teams into a 5th Tier. I may have been a year too early on UNO as they look a bit behind the rest in that tier. Still not convinced WIU is as good as they have shown. They need to prove it on the road. Same thing for Denver. Not convinced they can carry that offense on the road. Don’t think they come back from 15 down against USD if that game had been in Vermillion.

Seems about right to me

[OldHare]

Re: Summit WBB 2018-19

Leathernecks might come around quicker than Denver. They have 3 road games at Tulsa, Fargo, and Grand Forks. If they can get 3 in a row, Gravina will keep them closer to Tier 2. Denver has a good schedule with 4 of 6 in Denver and 1 of those road games is at PFW. Denver will stay in the Tier 2 at least in the first half of the season. North Dakota has not played well going 2-0 and they will play tougher games with Denver, SDSU, and WIU with Omaha sprinkled in. I look for WIU to get elevated to the Tier 2 as Gravina may have something perculating in Macomb.

[SteelSD]

Re: Summit WBB 2018-19

Leathernecks might come around quicker than Denver. They have 3 road games at Tulsa, Fargo, and Grand Forks. If they can get 3 in a row, Gravina will keep them closer to Tier 2. Denver has a good schedule with 4 of 6 in Denver and 1 of those road games is at PFW. Denver will stay in the Tier 2 at least in the first half of the season. North Dakota has not played well going 2-0 and they will play tougher games with Denver, SDSU, and WIU with Omaha sprinkled in. I look for WIU to get elevated to the Tier 2 as Gravina may have something perculating in Macomb.

Maybe, but WIU hasn’t shown any ability to win on the road either. And Denver has what appears to be just as good a perimeter game as WIU with a progressing inside game. I suspect the gap between the SD schools and the rest will open up once these lower tier teams have to try and win on the road. But Denver has clearly sent a message that they will be a tough out at home. Interesting to see what USD runs into at Macomb. But really only see potential losses for us in both USD games and the road game at Denver. So a win Sunday I think really puts us in the drivers seat for the regular season conference title.

[jackdaniel]

Re: Summit WBB 2018-19

Maybe, but WIU hasn’t shown any ability to win on the road either. And Denver has what appears to be just as good a perimeter game as WIU with a progressing inside game. I suspect the gap between the SD schools and the rest will open up once these lower tier teams have to try and win on the road. But Denver has clearly sent a message that they will be a tough out at home. Interesting to see what USD runs into at Macomb. But really only see potential losses for us in both USD games and the road game at Denver. So a win Sunday I think really puts us in the drivers seat for the regular season conference title.

I think you are right, but the possibility for a tie exists,so tie breaker rules would come into play for determining the Conference Tournament seeding and for the regular season crown, unless one of the SD schools loses in an unexpected loss, this would be highly unlikely though.

Sunday is huge.... we could be up 2 games with a win,sitting in the drivers seat as you have said, or let USD pull even with a loss by us (head to head loss). With a loss Sunday, we would still have to win against USD playing at Frost and win at Denver, to win the regular season, a loss to either gives USD the title, assuming USD wins out the rest of their schedule, but with a win Sunday, we'd only have to win one of those two games to at least tie with them, or win outright with winning both games. One things for sure, USD is in a hole and they desperately want to crawl out of it. They are in trouble and they know it. It's become a very interesting Conference season.

[bigticket1]

Re: Summit WBB 2018-19

Imho Denver is the 3rd best team on the women's side. Mens side also maybe.

The Denver men have a long ways to go to compete for the upper half of the conference. The NCAA's current NET rankings have them at #306, which is the lowest Summit men's team (Jacks are highest at 129).

[OldHare]

Re: Summit WBB 2018-19

WIU(1-1) gets a road opportunity today in Tulsa. If they lose there after UND defeated ORU(1-1) at home, I will need to lower expectations for the Leathernecks. Meanwhile, UND is at Denver(2-1) which should be a pounding unless Turgeon does not have his team back to earth after upsetting Yotes. I do not see the Fighting Hawks(2-0) maintaining an upper half spot.

[Roy]

Re: Summit WBB 2018-19

ORU has a free stream of the game today.

[OldHare]

Re: Summit WBB 2018-19

ORU has a free stream of the game today.

Leathernecks give up 11 offensive boards, 13 turnovers, and only 22 fg attempts compared to ORU's 37 shots. ORU leads 35-30 at half.

Leathernecks slip a tier as they give up 23 offensive boards and 23 turnovers giving Coach Cussen her 100th career victory.

[jackdaniel]

Re: Summit WBB 2018-19

Leathernecks give up 11 offensive boards, 13 turnovers, and only 22 fg attempts compared to ORU's 37 shots. ORU leads 35-30 at half.

Leathernecks slip a tier as they give up 23 offensive boards and 23 turnovers giving Coach Cussen her 100th career victory.

I saw the game, free courtesy ORU, W. Ill looked the better team early in the 4th, but then Oru got more scrappy and started fighting harder for the win, to their credit , they got their win, not the prettiest though.

[SteelSD]

Re: Summit WBB 2018-19

Leathernecks give up 11 offensive boards, 13 turnovers, and only 22 fg attempts compared to ORU's 37 shots. ORU leads 35-30 at half.

Leathernecks slip a tier as they give up 23 offensive boards and 23 turnovers giving Coach Cussen her 100th career victory.

And WIU had a 26-13 foul advantage and still lost. Just can’t see them consistently winning when they are getting killed on the glass game in and game out.

[OldHare]

Re: Summit WBB 2018-19

Omaha 78 NDSU 61. Bison(1-3) snuggle close to PFW(0-3).

[OldHare]

Re: Summit WBB 2018-19

There are 2 other teams move to 3-1 tonight. Fighting Hawks win against Mavs 68-57. The Golden Eagles thump Mastodons at Ft Wayne 72-61. ORU visits Brookings Saturday.

[SteelSD]

Re: Summit WBB 2018-19

UND won without Klabo and Morton, so have to say that UNO is quite a bit worse than I thought they would be.