Augie to the Summit?

[SoDakJack]

Re: Augie to the Summit?

consider this.

if this were to have taken place 10 years ago.

We'd have seen Wolters at Augie.

Nagy would still be here. Daum likely would not be (no Nate)

how many times do we get to the dance considering the above?

Is the Augie move good for us?

read that till it sinks in.

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If Augie was D1 ten years ago, maybe they don't make a run at Wolters. Maybe they had already filled their available roster spots.

Maybe SDSU is more aggressive in local recruiting with Augie in conference 10 years ago so we go after Nate sooner.


Revisionist history can go a number of ways and really doesn't mean anything.

[2002jack]

Re: Augie to the Summit?

consider this.

if this were to have taken place 10 years ago.

We'd have seen Wolters at Augie.

Nagy would still be here. Daum likely would not be (no Nate)

how many times do we get to the dance considering the above?

Is the Augie move good for us?

read that till it sinks in.

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Maybe Nagy gets fired and we end up with Nate Oats and now we are the 13th ranked team in the nation! This is fun.

[SturgisJeff]

Re: Augie to the Summit?

Maybe Nagy gets fired and we end up with Nate Oats and now we are the 13th ranked team in the nation! This is fun.

this is fun, maybe if Stig doesnt get a 5 year extension we get Urban Meyer.

[goon]

Re: Augie to the Summit?

Coach K maybe wants a new challenge and sandford gives us money to pay him 10 million a year.

[SUPERBUNNY]

Re: Augie to the Summit?

A couple pages back there was a lot of talk about basketball attendance and what will happen with Augie's attendance at the D1 level.

The likelihood is to see attendance drop. Losing Friday/Saturday doubleheaders and moving to weeknight games is a big factor. Games being on ESPN, Midco, and others is also a factor. Go out on a cold night to spend $20 for a ticket and $10 for overpriced mediocre concessions or watch the game in HD on the big screen at home with a good meal and a few blue yummies? Multiply that for a family of 4 to 5 and many are choosing the stay at home option.

We all love, myself included, to look back on the NCC glory days of a packed Frost Arena and those epic rivalry battles. You had to ways to take in the game back then, buy a ticket or listen on the AM radio. I so miss the atmosphere of those games. SDSU has lost that entirely. The only thing close is the Summit League Tournament which Augie would only help elevate.

Welcome to D1 Augustana. We knew it would happen. They were, are, and will always be the little private school that we whoop up on. Looking forward to it again.

SUPERBUNNY

[JACKGUYII]

Re: Augie to the Summit?

Augie having the majority of its base in town will most likely overcome week day game slump attendence. I dont like the doubleheaders as much as I used too regardless of long drive. Long time to sit!

[SUPERBUNNY]

Re: Augie to the Summit?

Augie having the majority of its base in town will most likely overcome week day game slump attendence. I dont like the doubleheaders as much as I used too regardless of long drive. Long time to sit!

It could certainly help. Will be interesting to see.

SUPERBUNNY

[Jacked_Up]

Re: Augie to the Summit?

Augie will be fine. They have the population to draw from,enrollment numbers don't matter. If SF adopts them as their team they are good to go. Their biggest challenge may be in facilities or lack there of.

Of course enrollment matters. To a large degree, enrollment determines a school's fan base. Perhaps more importantly, it determines a big share of a school's future donor base. Business support can come go. A school's graduates are likely to remain loyal and supportive of their alma mater. Sioux Falls will not automatically become an Augie town. Ask supporters of USF, SDSU, USD, NU, Iowa, Iowa State, U of M, or graduates and supporters of several other regional colleges that live or work in Sioux Falls.

[JACKGUYII]

Re: Augie to the Summit?

Of course enrollment matters. To a large degree, enrollment determines a school's fan base. Perhaps more importantly, it determines a big share of a school's future donor base. Business support can come go. A school's graduates are likely to remain loyal and supportive of their alma mater. Sioux Falls will not automatically become an Augie town. Ask supporters of USF, SDSU, USD, NU, Iowa, Iowa State, U of M, or graduates and supporters of several other regional colleges that live or work in Sioux Falls.

Enrollment matters more in towns the size of Brookings or Vermillion. Omaha, Des Moines or Sioux Falls not so much. Large potential marketing base if you can put a quality product on the floor.

[filbert]

Re: Augie to the Summit?

Enrollment matters more in towns the size of Brookings or Vermillion. Omaha, Des Moines or Sioux Falls not so much. Large potential marketing base if you can put a quality product on the floor.

I've come around to the thought that one result of Augie to D-I is that it will re-energize SDSU's Sioux Falls fan base for something other than the Summit League tournament.

[JACKGUYII]

Re: Augie to the Summit?

I've come around to the thought that one result of Augie to D-I is that it will re-energize SDSU's Sioux Falls fan base for something other than the Summit League tournament.

I think your on to something.

[Nidaros]

Re: Augie to the Summit?

1. More stable conference,
2. An additional Summit League baseball team
3. Their strong athletic base for moving up including recent DII national titles in baseball, men's and women's basketball points to a very respectable conference addition,
4. Increased attendance due to additional local rivalry,
5. Every challenge forces you to work harder and become stronger
6. Increased interest/coverage of DI athletics
7. 18 game conference schedule for basketball should end regular season games against the likes of SDSMT

I don’t have any problems with your positives all very good. What still bothers me is the Augie Administration being able to connect with the SF business community. Right now I sense a gulf that can be overwhelming but am likely wrong.

[Nidaros]

Re: Augie to the Summit?

Enrollment matters more in towns the size of Brookings or Vermillion. Omaha, Des Moines or Sioux Falls not so much. Large potential marketing base if you can put a quality product on the floor.

The plan to add three dorms at Augustana seems to follow a Creighton vision and more academic programs. Enrollment will more of a future issue for Augustana.

[Jacked_Up]

Re: Augie to the Summit?

Augie didn't own Sioux Falls in the old D-2 days, when crowds at conference basketball games in the region were significantly larger than they are these days (even though the universities and communities were smaller). About the only thing that's changed, other than the flight to D-1, is that the Summit Tournament has replaced the old Holiday Tournament as an annual attraction in Sioux Falls.

[thumper_76]

Augie to the Summit?

If I'm SDSU/USD, I say "okay, Sanford/Krabbenhof/whoever, whatever donations you make to Augustana to facilitate their move to D-I, you match that with equal donations to our institution, above and beyond what you've given and pledged to give to us until now."

If they're hell-bent on doing this, I see no reason why SDSU and USD presidents' yea vote in the Summit League shouldn't come with a price tag attached.

Yep. Make the pay the hell out of us to make up for the money Augie is going to leech away from us. If they threaten to pull donations, fine. This stunt was going to cost us tons of money anyways from a fundraising standpoint, and guess what. SDSU will be around anyways and eventually they’re going to want back in on us. Put the serious squeeze on them if they want to be little bastards.

I wish people would wake up and realize the size of the enrollment is irrelevant to the number of people you get to a sporting event. I believe Augie has a strong local following and will build on that. All those SDSU and USD supporters who live in the Sioux Falls market who refuse to drive 50 miles north or south, but show up at Summit League tournament will help add attendence at the old Arena for home Augie games against the State schools.

When you changing your name to AugieGuyII champ.

As I said earlier you're well within your duties as an SDSU booster to share these feelings with your administrators. I'm sure people such as former Augie Ast AD Jeff Holm would gladly here you out. I'm not expecting a D1 transition to be fair or easy but since we're talking in hypotheticals, what would stop a corporate donor like Kelby, a man who has negotiated billion dollar mergers, from flipping the script on SDSU and pulling or reducing their donations and giving it to Augie unless they voted Augie into the Summit?

I truly understand why SDSU fans dont like this, Augie sucked in the NCC across the board, the fear of increased competition for SF money/attention, change in general, etc. However I still believe the most likely scenario is Augie receiving a Summit invite with little drama.

I didnt realize the WCC was on the table for DU, that would be far more enticing than the Summit. Has the WCC reciprocated any of that interest? WIU is in such a remote location I'm surprised theyve made it this far so I see why that sows doubt.

I don’t like it because your leech asses want to jump into something that SDSU fans made great while stealing sponsors from SDSU athletics that we will need. SDSU fans made the SLT a huge deal and your punk ass school got jealous and want to horn in on it after we did the work. I hope you guys go the route of Centenary for this bull**** coattail riding and guaranteed leeching away of our resources. GTFO.


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