Summit League Postseason 2018

[OldHare]

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Ryun Williams had tough return to Vermillion. Yotes pounded the Rams by 25. Round 3 will be played in Vermillion on Thursday.

[JackJD]

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Ryun Williams will return to Vermillion as the Leathernecks could not maintain the lead and fall to CSU.

The Colorado State coaching staff has three connections with USD and one with SDSU. Head Coach Williams was the USD head coach for four years (2008-12) following Chad Lavin's tenure. He talked Lavin out of retirement and Lavin is the CSU Director of Women's Basketball Administration. An assistant coach, Amber Cunningham, played for Lavin and Williams at USD -- she's the former Amber Hegge.

Another CSU Assistant is Carissa Thielbar. Thielbar -- yes, wife of SDSU and Minnesota Twins pitcher Caleb -- was a grad assistant (2011-12) and then an assistant coach (2012-15) under for the Jackrabbits.

[OldHare]

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Ryun Williams will return to Vermillion as the Leathernecks could not maintain the lead and fall to CSU.

[OldHare]

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Yote women go from 22-10 after 1 quarter to 65-58 win. They host another game Sunday from the WIU vs CSU game.

[OldHare]

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The yote women are looking very sharp against Houston. The yotes are heads and shoulders above this team.

[thumper_76]

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I agree, I know many fans what the football team to make the NDSU game bigger and act like its a bigger deal, usually the football team goes about treating it no differently then other games. Its a different game, but it shouldn't consume the team. Also the 2 edged sword. likely our demise will be in the NCAA a really bad 3 point shooting performance. But you dance with who brung ya. or so the saying goes. USD brought emotion as their dance partner, and when it gets the better of you it hurts. A team that relies on 1 player or 1 style of ball will often find that when they lose, that's what cost them the game, be it 3 pt shooting, rebounding, defense etc...

On the same token, that’s how mid major teams are built generally. Great at one thing that carries them.


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[goon]

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I'll just re-post this.

I'm in the "never get too high, never get too low" camp generally.

Also, from experience, losing a big game hurts far worse than winning a big game makes you feel good. That's human nature.

But "playing with emotion" is a two-edged sword. For most of the year, USD used that emotion to drive them and they benefited greatly from it. Personally, I think it turned against them in the SLT championship game (by SDSU extending the first-half lead with Daum on the bench, mainly). When SDSU burst their emotional bubble and their hope of going to the NCAA, they couldn't re-create last night the emotion they used to be a good team all year. That's the other edge of the emotion sword.

I agree, I know many fans what the football team to make the NDSU game bigger and act like its a bigger deal, usually the football team goes about treating it no differently then other games. Its a different game, but it shouldn't consume the team. Also the 2 edged sword. likely our demise will be in the NCAA a really bad 3 point shooting performance. But you dance with who brung ya. or so the saying goes. USD brought emotion as their dance partner, and when it gets the better of you it hurts. A team that relies on 1 player or 1 style of ball will often find that when they lose, that's what cost them the game, be it 3 pt shooting, rebounding, defense etc...

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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I'm with RO, not going to bang on a talented kid who obviously wants to win so badly and came up short. I know lots of working professionals who wouldn't have handled SLT type disappointment as well as Mooney.

Heck, I know several SDSU football fans who don't handle football losses as well as that young man...

[filbert]

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One wonders if the poor performance tonight is related to the hyper-emotional SL championship post-game of the Yotes. They had everything emotionally invested in beating SDSU. That kind of focus/hope can really backfire if it isn't consummated.

I'll just re-post this.

I'm in the "never get too high, never get too low" camp generally.

Also, from experience, losing a big game hurts far worse than winning a big game makes you feel good. That's human nature.

But "playing with emotion" is a two-edged sword. For most of the year, USD used that emotion to drive them and they benefited greatly from it. Personally, I think it turned against them in the SLT championship game (by SDSU extending the first-half lead with Daum on the bench, mainly). When SDSU burst their emotional bubble and their hope of going to the NCAA, they couldn't re-create last night the emotion they used to be a good team all year. That's the other edge of the emotion sword.

[Roy]

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Does the print media have a mercy rule? I never thought so but I could find no reference to the "Disaster in the Dome" last night in today's Argus. Probably just missed it? Go Jacks!!

[goon]

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Just curious what the take would have been if he started calling out coaches, teammates, officials, etc....

What did you expect him to say? I think he took the best route available without flaming everyone else.

Its ok to say we, We didn't do enough to win, we didn't defend or rebound like we should.......

[NebraskaJack]

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Kid's vain as hell too. All this "I didn't do enough" crap. It's all about his performance. I never saw his post SLT comments as coming from a place of humility. It was about how good he thinks he is that his 30 point performance was a bad night.

Just curious what the take would have been if he started calling out coaches, teammates, officials, etc....

What did you expect him to say? I think he took the best route available without flaming everyone else.

[jackdaniel]

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Kind of reminds me of the way Neb "fans" treated Jessica Shepard formerly at Neb now playing at ND. They all wondered how come she didn't have to sit out a year and got to play right away. I don't ,it was a very hostile environment at Neb,they should be ashamed to treat anyone like they did her. I don't care for Neb Fans at all, they are the worst.

[filbert]

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You guys are the biggest liars in the ****ing world if you don't think his jersey is the only reason you're criticizing him. If he did everything else the same way and was a Jackrabbit, you'd all be defending him. Kid is good as hell, wears his heart on his sleeve, and wants to win.

Discuss posts, not posters.

[Sodakbull]

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I don't see the need to disparage or single out any specific player.

The amount of disappointment is huge after losing a championship game that would send you dancing, and as Coach said, the world goes on, but man, after only a week, that world had not moved on for those young men.

I think the blame can be split into 3.

I blame the AD for putting the kids in that position in the first place. Not sure when bids went in or when USD accepted the invite, but the admin should've asked the players/coach if they were even in the correct state of mind to play, or perhaps they should've been able to tell without asking that they were not in a right state of mind to play that game.

I blame the coaches for not better preparing them once it was decided they were entering this tournament. It's the coaches job to build them back up and prepare them to go out there again.

I blame the players for not doing their part in getting over the woe is me attitude. They may have given it all they had, but it was obvious all they had was a 3/4 empty tank still.

I feel bad for those kids. Last night was not a good representation of how great they were this year.

I think if I was a coach this game is pretty revealing on who on my team is mentally tough and who isn't. If I was an AD, I also get to evaluate my coaching staff on how good they are on getting kids ready to play and if they are getting the right kids in to play at my school. Sometimes more is revealed by losing than by winning the games. No excuses allowed .
Nick Fuller and Trey Birch Manning pretty much nailed it at the post game press conference.

But enough about USD. Lets go beat the Buckeyes!!!!!!!!