ORU to Southland a done deal

[zooropa]

Presser tomorrow:

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextr...0_TheOra916657

[joeboo22]

Re: ORU to Southland a done deal

I think it helps with SDSU/Sioux Falls ability to keep the Summit League tournament. Helps the baseball side of things as well. But I think its crucial that the conference finds another member and preferably not one that is in transition. Also would like some baseball help whether that is Northern Colorado and North Dakota as baseball only schools or a new member as an all sport member. Just ideas. I don't like to see ORU leaving but with Centenary gone you could tell they were on an island and they didn't necessarily liked it. Couple that with losing the conference tournament for 6 years in a row, baseball at least being challenged and other factors its understandable why they left.

[hareball]

Re: ORU to Southland a done deal

This would reduce the Summit to a 5 team league for baseball. Will this have any effect on post season eligibility such as the loss of an autobid? Is UND still looking for a landing spot for their baseball program?

[goon]

Re: ORU to Southland a done deal

Presser tomorrow:

http://www.tulsaworld.com/sportsextr...0_TheOra916657

I guess its bad for the confrence but good because they were worried about the dakota schools stealing their thunder. Its good and bad to lose a good program, but I guess the brightside is, There is less compition for SDSU mens and womens basketball and baseball teams. but hurts the confrence strength over all.

I guess I wont miss them. To bad they cant leave this year.

[jack power]

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I don't see anything good about it.

[goon]

Re: ORU to Southland a done deal

This would reduce the Summit to a 5 team league for baseball. Will this have any effect on post season eligibility such as the loss of an autobid? Is UND still looking for a landing spot for their baseball program?

Maybe USD could bring back baseball. And no that isnt smack.

[joeybrownerHOF]

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Maybe USD could bring back baseball. And no that isnt smack.

Unfortunately that is not going to happen. I realize that UNO doesn't join for another year but they still have baseball, right?

[joeboo22]

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USD won't bring back baseball. They have title IX problems without it.

UNO does have baseball (or they did) but I think they were brought in to replace Centenary who had baseball.

[JamesJacks]

Re: ORU to Southland a done deal

Personally I was hoping they would stay in the Summit. Some of my early random thoughts and questions:

*Does the Summit League need to replace ORU? If so, which schools would be legitimate candidates?
*When will they be leaving?
*IF they leave after this year, is there enough time to get a new school in to replace them right away?
*I really don't want another school in transition to come in. Not interested at all. Bring in someone already established.
*The Summit League will probably always be a one bid league in basketball so losing a school that has quality program(s) like ORU won't hurt the chances of a second team getting in to the ncaa tournament. Only one was going anyway.
*Is there a chance this could be the first school to leave the Summit League? Anyone else a possibility?

[joeybrownerHOF]

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USD won't bring back baseball. They have title IX problems without it.

UNO does have baseball (or they did) but I think they were brought in to replace Centenary who had baseball.

Please enlighten me on USD's current Title IX problems?

[RabbitObsessed]

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Please enlighten me on USD's current Title IX problems?

I've heard from some of the USD athletes that I know that USD has to add another women's scholarship sport (rugby). He said it was because of the increased disparity in male and female enrollment. No stats to back this up, just what I've heard from USD athletes.

[slosho]

Re: ORU to Southland a done deal

Inch by inch closer to a D1 NCC... Increased costs same/similar opponents. Hmmm...

[goon]

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I thought USD cut baseball for title 9 and budget. like a 2fer kind of a cut.

[HoboJack]

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Did USD cut any additional mens sports, or add any women's sports during the move to D1? Seems to me that they had to cut Baseball & Wrestling due to problems before the move. Those problems were IMO the real reason USD didn't make the D1 move at the same time as SDSU/NDSU did. I have a hard time believing that they added 21 scholorships for football (42 to 63), and are able offset that completely by unequally funding their Olympic sports teams (i.e. womens T&F, CC, S&D have more scholorships than the mens equivalent sport).

SDSU added the equestrian program which I believe has around 24 scholorships when we made the transition. From What I understand our Olympic sports are fairly equal in Scholorship level.

[joeboo22]

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I am friends with numerous players on the USD club baseball team, I asked them if the school was thinking about bringing it back as a scholarship sport, because they do a pretty good job as a club team. And they all said they asked and were told Title IX prevents them from that.

And I should of clarified what I meant by problems. I don't think they are in big trouble, but from everything I've read and heard they are in no position to be able to add a men's scholarship sport such as baseball.

But to get back to ORU leaving. I don't think its completely taking my toys to another sandbox because I didn't get the conference tournament. But I do think they were upset with the addition of USD before even considering looking at a school closer to them, which I understand, and that SDSU a newcomer got the tournament the first time. I think they will even concede that after Sioux Falls supported the tournament as well as it has the past 3 years it was hard to take it away. I think when the conference added UNO a school that hadn't even made the transition yet that was the final straw.