UN-Omaha? All signs point to....we'll see?

[JACKGUYII]

Re: UN-Omaha? All signs point to....we'll see?

I just don't see Omaha supporting the Summit League Tournament from a fan or corporate support like Sioux Falls. In terms of the lack of fan attendence at the championship game I didn't think it was that bad and the atmosphere was decent. Watch some of the other conference tournament championship games at neutral sites or in venues where the 'local" team did not advance to the final game and you will see a lot of empty seats. The Big 10 womens conference games are an absolute embarassment from an attendence standpoint. Douple has emphatically stated over and over recently that the Summit League is a "Midwest" Conference and going forward that will be the footprint. I think UNO is all but a done deal. IMHO, UNO would be smart to drop football and focus on the other sports. With that said I don't see them doing that and imagine MVC offering will be sought. Nagy commented on KWSN yesterday that IUPUI,IFPW, Oral Roberts and Oakland have an advantage because they don't have football and can put most of their resources into Mens Basketball as that provides the greatest potential return on investment. I don't view UNO any different than the other commuter schools in our conference who reside in big communities and have limited fan support. I think UNO has a chance to make this work if done right.

[bigticket1]

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Something to remember about the empty seats last night is that while the seat might have been empty,it very well might have been sold through the 2300 + season passes. Apparently they aren't counted in the attendance for that session unless the ticket is actually used. Also,for really embarassing numbers,I believe TV said in a blog that he was at a session when the tournament was in Tulsa where the attendance was approx. 150.

[propar80]

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I competely agree that other mid-major conference tournaments that have a neutral site where the local team doesn't make the championship are not well attended.

But, if SF is going to thump it's chest about the large attendence numbers, but there's no one in the seats come the time we're on National TV...perception is, it's really not that well received by the city. Just sayin', this is somthing SF needs to work on in the future. Hopefully SDSU will be in the championship game for MEN's and WOMEN the next three years and we won't have to worry about attendence in the final game!!!!! Yes I am expecting SF gets the 2013-2014 bid.

Has anyone heard any tournament attendance numbers yet??

Go Jacks!!

[propar80]

Re: UN-Omaha? All signs point to....we'll see?

Something to remember about the empty seats last night is that while the seat might have been empty,it very well might have been sold through the 2300 + season passes. Apparently they aren't counted in the attendance for that session unless the ticket is actually used. Also,for really embarassing numbers,I believe TV said in a blog that he was at a session when the tournament was in Tulsa where the attendance was approx. 150.

I believe the announced attendence number for the Summit League Tournament has always been "paid attendance" not "butts in seats" like at Frost/CAS.

Go Jacks!!

[zooropa]

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the Horizon would take Oakland in a heartbeat

If the Horizon invited Oakland, they would be gone in a heartbeat. It hasn't happened, and probably won't barring a shift in Horizon membership.

[propar80]

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If the Horizon invited Oakland, they would be gone in a heartbeat. It hasn't happened, and probably won't barring a shift in Horizon membership.

Honestly, IMO I think that Oakland feels they have a better chance of getting to the NCAA tournament being members of the Summit and this is why Oakland hasn't pursued the Horizon.
I do hope I'm wrong though and I do hope having the tournament in SF(Dakota's) long-term doesn't push them to inquire about membership. IMO having Oakland and ORU in our league gives the Summit and SDSU the best chance of catching up with the MVC/Horizon/WCC and not be lumped in with the other side of Mid-Major life(MAAC, Big Sky, Sun Belt, etc). I guess that's really all I'm saying.

Go Jacks!!

[Jacks-02]

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I believe the announced attendence number for the Summit League Tournament has always been "paid attendance" not "butts in seats" like at Frost/CAS.

Go Jacks!!

That's not right. I believe Terry said there were over 2600 session passes sold and there were only about 2000 counted for attendance for men's championship game and IIRC about 1500 for the opening round women's session on Saturday.

[zooropa]

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having the tournament in SF(Dakota's) long-term doesn't push them to inquire about membership

I'm sure they stay in touch with the Horizon League members.

Further, there's an easy solution to the SF tournament problem: get fans. Don't whine about how unfair it is that SDSU has fans--which is exactly what this boils down to.

[SF_Rabbit_Fan]

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I'm sure they stay in touch with the Horizon League members.

Further, there's an easy solution to the SF tournament problem: get fans. Don't whine about how unfair it is that SDSU has fans--which is exactly what this boils down to.

From what I've read on the internet, any Horizon league member has veto power to exclude a potential new member. And there is bad blood between Detroit and Oakland. Again, only what I read on the internet, but under current circumstances I don't see Oakland going Horizon.

[Evolution Prime]

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Terry was on Unsportsmanlike Conduct down here in Omaha talking about the possibility of UNO going to the Summit. Gave lots of example of what SDSU and NDSU had to go through and the changes made about moving up.

[filbert]

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I dunno. Looks like there's starting to be a trail of bread crumbs . . .

[bigticket1]

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That's not right. I believe Terry said there were over 2600 session passes sold and there were only about 2000 counted for attendance for men's championship game and IIRC about 1500 for the opening round women's session on Saturday.

We are correct - announced attendance for the Saturday women's session was 1353, which is about 1/2 of the total season passes sold.

[propar80]

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I thought TV reported that if not even 1 GA ticket is sold, the 2011 Summit League Tournament will exceed all other Summit League hosts with just full-session ticket sales.

I may have read that wrong, but I thought that would equate to around 23K according to TV. 23,000 divided by 8 sessions equals 2875 all-session passes, give or take.

I guess we can find out tomorrow during TV's chat. I guess the better question is: Does the Summit League when talking about "record Attendance" take "Ticket Sales" or "Actual Attendance"? My guess is Ticket Sales, but I could be wrong.

Go Jacks!!

[jackdaniel]

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I thought TV reported that if not even 1 GA ticket is sold, the 2011 Summit League Tournament will exceed all other Summit League hosts with just full-session ticket sales.

I may have read that wrong, but I thought that would equate to around 23K according to TV. 23,000 divided by 8 sessions equals 2875 all-session passes, give or take.

I guess we can find out tomorrow during TV's chat. I guess the better question is: Does the Summit League when talking about "record Attendance" take "Ticket Sales" or "Actual Attendance"? My guess is Ticket Sales, but I could be wrong.

Go Jacks!!

My guess would be "actual attendence" because each game I went to,my ticket was scanned with a hand-held scanner.So,actual attendence numbers would be readily available,so why not use them?

[jackrabbit1979]

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Let's try this again...there were somewhere in the range of 2700 all session passes sold. The men's final attendance was announced at approximately 2100 people. How could their figure be anything but actual attendance?