Big Sky looking at USD

[zooropa]

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He also said Coach Boots was excited with the prospect of playing in the Big Sky.

Well that's pretty suggestive.

Guess this is what happens when you're late for dinner.

All you get are leftovers.

[SDSUAlum08]

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Just listened to USD's AD on Craig and John.

He was pretty blunt and didn't evade questions. He sounded like he is looking at the situation realistically and factually, and it sounded like NOTHING is on the table with MVFC. He also seemed like a man stuck between a rock and a hard place (granted it was a radio interview).

They asked along the lines of: would you prefer a Summit and MVFC membership? His answer was basically that he prefers to deal with reality.

Another quote he gave was "Don't confuse hope with a plan."

Based on that interview, I would say there is an 85% or higher chance that USD ends up in the Big Sky and leaves the Summit.

I hope they do. Don't let the door hit them on the way out.

[TeaJackrabbit]

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Stu nailed it in his "Stu's Views" talking about what a disaster USD to the Big Sky would be.

[yoteforever]

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Stu absolutely nailed. Geez, I think I just threw up in my mouth a little.

SUPERBUNNY

Stu nailed what? The only thing Stu gives a damn about is the impact the move by USD to the Big Sky will have on regional events in Sioux Falls. If USD is extended an invitation by the BSC for ALL sports, they would be foolish not to accept. My bet is Montana and Montana State are staying put. That league has a wonderful history and is renown on the national level.

As an avid fan of USD, what scares me is the (2) league deal you are in and many of ou fans want. Let's be honest here. The Valley in football is not The Valley in basketball. And the Summit league is much favored over the Great West, it still lacks in appeal as compared to the Big Sky. What I would hope for for SDSU's cause is that eventually you would gain full time admission into the Missouri Valley for all sports, but that doesn't look likely.

The MVC is a powerful mid major asketball league, and that's what it is known for nationwide. My guess is that USD or SDSU or any ND school would have almost an impossible job cracking that conference. If you could, wow, would that be a coup for you. But again, I think it is unlikely.

The move to the Big Sky in all sports would be a great deal in my opinion. Now according to Stu, anybody that knows anything at all about college athletics would think this is a stupid thought or idea. Well Stu, sitting behind your laptop cranking out useless jibberish doesn't make you an expert.

Truthfully, if we went Big Sky and you all ended up in the MVC all sports, what a dea that would be for the state of South Dakota. And for those that say the fans couldn't careless about Northern Arizona or Weber State, I don't think anyones fanbase really gives two pinches of crap about IUPUIIIPPUUII or whatever the teams names are.

[yoteforever]

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I hope they do. Don't let the door hit them on the way out.

Amen

[zooropa]

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My bet is Montana and Montana State are staying put.

Don't bet any money you can't afford to lose.

Montana has already made a presentation to the WAC. Montana knows that their gate is roughly 85% of Boise State's.

Montana is gone. Gone gone gone gone gone.

Gone.

It's like the end of Casablanca:

"Maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon"

[zooropa]

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And YF, I challenge you to produce a logical answer to this question:

Why is the Big Sky interested in the UxDs when they were not interested in the xDSUs?

[FargoBison]

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I'll just say this, if this happens all four Dakota schools are losers in the deal. I'm sure some will disagree, but I think our four schools are stronger together than apart.

[zooropa]

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I'll just say this, if this happens all four Dakota schools are losers in the deal. I'm sure some will disagree, but I think our four schools are stronger together than apart.

I question the value of UND at this point, but that's just me.

[Nidaros]

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Stu nailed what? The only thing Stu gives a damn about is the impact the move by USD to the Big Sky will have on regional events in Sioux Falls. If USD is extended an invitation by the BSC for ALL sports, they would be foolish not to accept. My bet is Montana and Montana State are staying put. That league has a wonderful history and is renown on the national level.

As an avid fan of USD, what scares me is the (2) league deal you are in and many of ou fans want. Let's be honest here. The Valley in football is not The Valley in basketball. And the Summit league is much favored over the Great West, it still lacks in appeal as compared to the Big Sky. What I would hope for for SDSU's cause is that eventually you would gain full time admission into the Missouri Valley for all sports, but that doesn't look likely.

The MVC is a powerful mid major asketball league, and that's what it is known for nationwide. My guess is that USD or SDSU or any ND school would have almost an impossible job cracking that conference. If you could, wow, would that be a coup for you. But again, I think it is unlikely.

The move to the Big Sky in all sports would be a great deal in my opinion. Now according to Stu, anybody that knows anything at all about college athletics would think this is a stupid thought or idea. Well Stu, sitting behind your laptop cranking out useless jibberish doesn't make you an expert.

Truthfully, if we went Big Sky and you all ended up in the MVC all sports, what a dea that would be for the state of South Dakota. And for those that say the fans couldn't careless about Northern Arizona or Weber State, I don't think anyones fanbase really gives two pinches of crap about IUPUIIIPPUUII or whatever the teams names are.

What you are forgetting here is that MVFC is no way in any shape or form connected to the MVC. Its a new name for the Gateway Conference, a D1AA football conference. I don't see the MVC opening up for SDSU or NDSU in my life time, and I was born in 1941 about six months before Pearl Harbor. I hope to be around about 20 more years.

The MVC is very strong and raking in all kinds of dollars from the big dance, and why should they mess that up by expanding? After listening to AD Sayler today on KWSN, the old Gateway conference seems to be the stumbling block for both USD and UND. (There is no movement on expansion)The old gateway has no expansion plans, so UND and USD might be wise to look to the BSC for membership. It may be their only opportunity for football conference membership. USD would be a better fit for the BSC than SDSU, who offers no baseball or wrestling. If SDSU went to the BSC they would still need to find conferences for both sports.

Granted I dont get to excited about IUPUI, but they or IPFW have produced an NBA player so their BB program is very good as is NAU and WSU. So the competition is much better than what we had seen in the NCC. I think we can agree there.

[yoteforever]

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And YF, I challenge you to produce a logical answer to this question:

Why is the Big Sky interested in the UxDs when they were not interested in the xDSUs?

Zoo,

That one is wayyyyyyyy to easy, but since we aren't in the smack section I won't answer it honestly.

[jacksfan29]

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Let's be honest here. The Valley in football is not The Valley in basketball.

That would be true since it is the MVFC and the MVC. However, if you are talking competitive the Valley is actually a much stronger conference than the Big Sky (aka Big Fluffy). Outside of UM and sometimes MSU, most years the Big Sky is actually rather weak. Even in what is now considered a down year in the MVFC it is 2nd in GPI. Good luck in the Big Sky if it happens. I wish your new AD luck in trying to budget the travel for your lesser sports.

By the way, I listened to Sayler's interview. I like him, seems like a smart young guy but he came off as being frustrated. I think he is in a tough spot and he knows it. I think the Big Sky has put him in a difficult decision with no promise that the conference will hold onto the only attraction (Montana). I also think he is very frustrated with the MVFC. The only conference he actually had really good words for was oddly enough, the Summit League.

[da_coach]

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I'll just say this, if this happens all four Dakota schools are losers in the deal. I'm sure some will disagree, but I think our four schools are stronger together than apart.

I disagree. I can't see how this makes things worse at all for the Jacks and/or the Bison.

We're still the same as we ever were.

However, the U's are now going to be traveling all over the place non-stop, to play in a conference most likely without Montana, and possibly Montana State.

Positives? Without the Montanas...USD/UND can be contenders right away in football, and also be a threat in other sports.

It's definately going to be interesting. Depends on what Montana decides, and then the Dominoes will fall.

[FargoBison]

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I disagree. I can't see how this makes things worse at all for the Jacks and/or the Bison.

We're still the same as we ever were.

However, the U's are now going to be traveling all over the place non-stop, to play in a conference most likely without Montana, and possibly Montana State.

Positives? Without the Montanas...USD/UND can be contenders right away in football, and also be a threat in other sports.

It's definately going to be interesting. Depends on what Montana decides, and then the Dominoes will fall.

The Summit League is what we make it to be, the UXDs are well supported schools and could have brought that to the Summit. With just eight members our situation isn't very stable and most of the other expansion options are garbage and really just make the league even more unstable.

If the Summit League could add one or two other solid schools then I would agree, but that just isn't the case. I wish we could at least secure USD's spot.

[FargoBison]

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I will say this though, it is odd that the Big Sky is adding a school that they never thought was academically good enough(SUU) and two schools in states the conference had always thought was too far away.

Sioux fans seem convinced the Montana schools are staying for now.

If I were the UXD's, I'd only make a commitment to the league for as long as the Montana schools are committed.