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Eric Hinterstocker, Head volleyball coach at NDSU resigned his position, effective immediately.
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Here is the full story. The Fargo Forum does not waste time in getting the full story out in front of the public,Originally posted by 1bunnies View Post
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It's too bad it had to come to a resignation. I can't help but be happy for the guy and wish him the best of luck. He knew there was an issue and he knew he needed to step away. You have to think it was affecting his home life, too. Hopefully he can figure this out and can coach again.Originally posted by Nidaros View PostDisclaimer: This post may contain assumptions and/or opinions related to Jackrabbit Athletics.Comment
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Not if he was being abusive, it's not.Comment
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How times have changed. When I was playing in high school the coaches would get in your face if you screwed up, give your butt a shove to make you get in the line, and scream and holler, now if it ain't kid glove treatment its resign or get fired and sued. The p*ssyfication of America. Coaches like Bear Bryant, Woody Hayes,and the old school coaches of the past wouldn't last a season now a days.Comment
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And Woody built character? Running after an opposing player and tackling him? No thanks. Woody had friends who helped him stick around Ohio State for as long as he did. He too should have been gone long before his time. If you got no self control, you do not belong in coaching!! That part has not changed. Pussification???? really. I don't think so. People are standing up for their own rights maybe and coaches can no longer cover up their short comings. Give NDSU Adminstrators a pat on the back for dealing with the situation. I think this was very much a forced resignation and rightfully so.Originally posted by SturgisJeff View PostComment
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I'm with Nidaros on this one.Originally posted by SturgisJeff View Post
Coaches still scream and holler and get in players' faces. Shouldn't the question be: is screaming and hollering and getting in a kid's face effective coaching? I suppose in some, what I would consider very limited cases the answer is "yes" but most of the time, I think the answer is "no". In any event, it still happens.
I think that kind of coaching is simply disappearing because it doesn't work very well over time. Eventually those types blow up. As did, apparently, the NDSU coach.
Or the IUPUI women's basketball coach....Comment
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Thanks JackJD. Men and women are wired differently emotionally and those wise people who have recognized this factor seem to be successful coaches of women sports, ie Aaron Johnston.Originally posted by JackJD View PostComment
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What happened at IUPUI and NDSU shouldn't happen and the coaches were rightfully fired and resigned. Not condoning the actions of the coaches at all. But what happens to a team when a coach cannot enforce discipline and the players know it and take advantage of the fact that they can pretty much control the situation.
At Marysville High School in Michigan they had a very successful coach, one of his players failed to get on the field for a special teams play. At halftime the coach addressed the player about it and the kid started mouthing off to the coach who told the kid to knock it off, the kid kept it up, so the coach told him if he didn't, he the coach would take him by the neck and shut him up. The kid mouthed off again and the coach grabbed him by the shoulder pads and put him against the wall. As they went on the field the coach apologised to the player and team, Once on the field, the kid left, went to the stands got his parents and left. After the game the coach placed himself on a one week and game suspension. The parents of the kid told the school if the coach came back they would sue the school, and file a police report for assault. He resigned because he didn't have the money to fight it and he didn't know what a jury would do. This wasn't the first such incident at that school with the players disrespecting the coaching staff. The school after the investigation didn't do a thing to the kid. Even today, the football team can do whatever without discipline. Some players broke into the new high school before it opened and vandalized the place with no disciplinary actions taken.
No coach should ever, in anger, touch a player. But has it gotten so politically correct that a coach can't yell, kick inanimate objects and otherwise express their displeasure with the teams play without the fear of hurting someones feelings? Some coaches like AJ have it figured out, he is one in a million and the Jacks are lucky to have him, but there are also coaches out there like him that in one brief second have lost their cool and years of keeping it inside have erupted like the coach mentioned above. And for that one brief outburst the only thing they are remembered for after years of quality coaching is that one outburst.
So how many years does Gregg Kampe have left? Totally the opposite of AJ.
http://www.up-football.com/forums/vi...hp?f=16&t=4064Comment
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As discussed in previous posts, coaching styles have changed over the years. The "old school" stuff just cannot happen these days. Yelling and screaming is still happens though by most coaches, but there's a line that just can't be crossed. I also think that some coaches are more strategic or discrete in how they get after their players so the public eye doesn't see it.Comment
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SturgisJeff: It would be interesting to know the leadup to the blowup in that game you wrote about. Sounds to me like that coach has some problems that were well out of hand before the game. Do you think the player's behavior was the first time he acted like that? Why was that player on the team?
The point that most caught my attention was the comment about being sued etc. I haven't surveyed Michigan law on that point but I'll say this: show me one South Dakota case where a coach was sued successfully after reasonably disciplining a player including reasonable physical discipline. I'll bet there isn't a Michigan case like that, either.
I had an assistant coach in high school whack me on the head once and I did nothing wrong. An idiot like that may not have acted if he thought he may be sanctioned for unreasonable behavior.
Apparently most people would be surprised to know that the law functions quite well with reasonable decisions and results. (By the way, I do mostly defense work these days and while the system is not perfect, it's pretty darned good for something invented by people to resolve disputes without guns.)
Post-script: If the news report of the Michigan incident is 100% accurate, let's keep in mind it's "NEWS" because it's an uncommon event. If that happened every day, it wouldn't make the news.Comment
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Interesting read with high school and a few different levels of college coaches thoughts.
http://www.inforum.com/event/article.../group/Sports/Comment
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